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2019-03-20 00:44:43
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<Seddon>
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I'm just breaking test2.wikipedia.org briefly with some css tests
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2019-03-20 00:46:36
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<Reedy>
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Seddon: You're the worst
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2019-03-20 00:48:08
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<Seddon>
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Reedy: I try to be
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2019-03-20 02:20:01
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<AntiComposite>
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:French_Landing_Dam_and_Powerhouse.jpg
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2019-03-20 02:20:03
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<AntiComposite>
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The Commons usage is also showing under en.wikipedia.org but with broken links
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2019-03-20 02:22:57
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<AntiComposite>
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Also happening on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Navs_warm_up_in_short_Leary_RF.JPG
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2019-03-20 02:23:18
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<AntiComposite>
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I'd file a Phab task but I should be asleep now.
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2019-03-20 12:34:40
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<ankry>
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hi
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2019-03-20 12:35:20
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<ankry>
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is there a way to regenerate a broken score image?
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2019-03-20 12:35:48
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<thedj>
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ankry: no, i think they have to be dropped from the file storage..
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2019-03-20 12:36:03
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<ankry>
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will they expire?
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2019-03-20 12:39:19
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<thedj>
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ankry: no, dont think so
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2019-03-20 12:39:19
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<thedj>
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https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Score/blob/f706078ac007ea60255836aca984a1ffd214d5f3/includes/Score.php#L352
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2019-03-20 12:39:47
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<thedj>
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this is just storage cache, and the cache options don't indicate any temporary component
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2019-03-20 12:40:10
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<thedj>
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i mean file storage cache
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2019-03-20 12:40:44
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<thedj>
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ankry: so will require manual expunging
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2019-03-20 12:40:45
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<bawolff>
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Add some whitespace changes to the <score> tag perhaps
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2019-03-20 12:41:02
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<thedj>
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yeah, that will possibly make a new version too
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2019-03-20 12:41:13
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<thedj>
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or rather, a different, almost similar version.
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2019-03-20 12:41:17
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<ankry>
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bawolff: yes, I do this for images I know of
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2019-03-20 12:41:30
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<ankry>
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I am looking for a general solution
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2019-03-20 12:41:43
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<thedj>
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we can bumb CACHE::VERSION but that will expire all images of score
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2019-03-20 12:42:02
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<bawolff>
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I'm not following context, if its all the images need to be refreshed, I think a dev could do something about it
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2019-03-20 12:42:03
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<thedj>
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CACHE_VERSION
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2019-03-20 12:42:31
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<thedj>
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bawolff: temporary config problem. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218535
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2019-03-20 12:42:32
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<ankry>
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related to bug: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218535
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2019-03-20 12:43:03
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<ankry>
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se just generated during few days
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2019-03-20 12:43:09
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<bawolff>
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I would say just cache bomb it unless we suspect that the traffic would be too much
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2019-03-20 12:43:20
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<bawolff>
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but score isn't used that often
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2019-03-20 12:44:52
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<ankry>
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that is probably few thousand images total, mainly in wikisources
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2019-03-20 12:45:37
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<thedj>
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and then file a ticket about adding a maintenance script ;)
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2019-03-20 12:51:28
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<ankry>
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underestimated; this is likely 30000-100000 images
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2019-03-20 12:51:33
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<ankry>
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quite a lot
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2019-03-20 12:51:59
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<ankry>
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almost 5000 pages on fr.ws
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2019-03-20 12:53:22
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<thedj>
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ankry: maybe operations can script delete only recently created ones, but they are a bit busy, so be nice ;)
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2019-03-20 12:53:53
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<bawolff>
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it more matters how much traffic then total numbers i think
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2019-03-20 12:55:31
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; E THP; /* Ability to upload file(wiki azb) */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18951718&oldid=18946160&rcid=13331928
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2019-03-20 12:59:20
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; E THP; /* Ability to upload file(wiki azb) */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18951721&oldid=18951718&rcid=13331933
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2019-03-20 15:01:00
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @halfak & @CFisch_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-03-20 15:12:24
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<Eugene233>
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Hello!, Please what is the simplest way to implement OAuth with WP in python?
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2019-03-20 15:16:34
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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Eugene233: have you seen https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/My_first_Flask_OAuth_tool ?
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2019-03-20 15:16:40
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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Step 4 has OAuth instructions
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2019-03-20 15:17:03
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<Eugene233>
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Lucas_WMDE: Thanks
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2019-03-20 15:23:33
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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hello
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2019-03-20 15:25:02
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<RhinosF1>
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Hello
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2019-03-20 15:25:19
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<RhinosF1>
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Do you need help?
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2019-03-20 15:31:36
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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RhinosF1 I want to see IRC meeting
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2019-03-20 15:32:05
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<RhinosF1>
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It's not for another 30 mins, just wait until then. You're in the right chat.
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2019-03-20 15:32:12
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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OK
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2019-03-20 15:37:33
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<bawolff>
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You can of course ask questions outside the meeting, the meeting is just times when people will definitely be here
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2019-03-20 15:37:57
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<andre__>
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o/
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2019-03-20 15:50:35
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @halfak & @CFisch_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-03-20 15:59:22
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<halfak>
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o/
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2019-03-20 15:59:48
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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\o/
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2019-03-20 16:00:27
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Welcome to the Technical Advice IRC Meeting!
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2019-03-20 16:00:56
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<Gopa>
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Hello,
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2019-03-20 16:00:56
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<Gopa>
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I'm planning to develop VideoCutTool in React front-end and Node.js/Express with API's and planning to host on toolforge, I also found https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Developing here I didn't find anything about toolfoge supports node.js so is will that toolforge supports node.js
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2019-03-20 16:01:16
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<Gopa>
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?
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2019-03-20 16:01:28
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Hi Gopa! :-)
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2019-03-20 16:01:44
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<Gopa>
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Hello CFisch_WMDE :)
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2019-03-20 16:02:16
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Afaik node.js is running on the toolsforge servers
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2019-03-20 16:02:37
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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See this example here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/My_first_NodeJS_OAuth_tool
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2019-03-20 16:03:56
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Video cutting sounds pretty resource intense though - I'm not sure if toolforge can deal with that ;-)
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2019-03-20 16:04:05
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<Gopa>
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yeah so can I start building VideoCutTool tool with node.js and express js ?
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2019-03-20 16:04:45
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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[Pinging TenPiolodiusz – since they had a question and where 30 minutes early.]
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2019-03-20 16:05:34
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Gopa: I assume it's possible, yes.
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2019-03-20 16:06:00
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Gopa: Have you build something already. I mean locally?
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2019-03-20 16:06:55
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<Gopa>
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Yes I'm trying out different things in my local system and currently front end is done.
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2019-03-20 16:07:01
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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Nudin_WMDE thanks but I don't need ping
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2019-03-20 16:07:27
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<Gopa>
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I'm planning to do Video Trimming using ffmpeg.
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2019-03-20 16:08:07
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Gopa: ffmpeg is another thing .... I'm not sure that this is availible on the toolforge servers.
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2019-03-20 16:08:31
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<halfak>
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knows nothing about video editing so just reads on.
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2019-03-20 16:09:34
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<Gopa>
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I'm planning to trim the videos on commons using ffmpeg via VideoCutTool https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/labs/tools/VideoCutTool
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2019-03-20 16:09:34
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<Gopa>
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https://github.com/gopavasanth/VideoCutTool
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2019-03-20 16:10:17
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Gopa: Ok, I just checked ffmpeg is there ^^'
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2019-03-20 16:10:17
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<Gopa>
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halfak: no worries :)
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2019-03-20 16:10:51
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<Gopa>
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:)
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2019-03-20 16:12:08
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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So the only concern I would have is regarding performance and resources on a toolforge account. Toolforge is not really known for high performance.
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2019-03-20 16:12:29
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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But you might just give it a try.
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2019-03-20 16:12:47
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<bawolff>
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There are other tools using ffmpeg
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2019-03-20 16:13:01
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<halfak>
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https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge#Submitting,_managing_and_scheduling_jobs_on_the_grid
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2019-03-20 16:13:04
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<bawolff>
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Well i guess they have dedicated vps
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2019-03-20 16:13:16
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<Gopa>
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okay,
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2019-03-20 16:13:16
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<Gopa>
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I hope you got the basic idea about VideoCutTool and what do you prefer to develop the backend (PHP, node.js.....), That should be easy and supportive.
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2019-03-20 16:13:19
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<halfak>
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I wonder if the grid could be used for re-encoding.
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2019-03-20 16:13:45
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<bawolff>
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But yeah, as long as you arent running on login hosts i cant imagine itd be an issue
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2019-03-20 16:15:05
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Gopa: So you mean what I would prefer for the backend? :-)
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2019-03-20 16:15:20
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<bawolff>
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Gopa: the fun part of it being your tool you can write it in any language you like :)
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2019-03-20 16:15:29
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<Gopa>
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yes, Exactly :)
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2019-03-20 16:15:37
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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+1 what bawolff said :-)
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2019-03-20 16:16:22
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<thedj>
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as long as you don't re-encode video, just rewrite, you can probably do it on tools. otherwise you need vps probably
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2019-03-20 16:16:30
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<Gopa>
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hah, Let us assume it's our tool :)
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2019-03-20 16:16:34
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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My personal preference atm would probably be PHP but just because I'm very used to it ^^'
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2019-03-20 16:17:33
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<Gopa>
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Okay, Thanks CFisch_WMDE I will think about that :)
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2019-03-20 16:18:15
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<bawolff>
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I generally would suggest not going too obscure (forth is probably a bad choice) but otherwise it doesnt really matter
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2019-03-20 16:18:45
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<bawolff>
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Probably should go with whatever language you are most familar with
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2019-03-20 16:19:42
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<Gopa>
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yes thanks.
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2019-03-20 16:21:39
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<Gopa>
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thedj I just want to trim the videos currently and republish it on commons and later we can add features like crop :)
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2019-03-20 16:22:49
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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AFAIK trimming still requires re-encoding unless you trim exactly on a keyframe
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2019-03-20 16:23:13
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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but if your tool runs on Grid (instead of Kubernetes) you can offload the encoding work there
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2019-03-20 16:23:23
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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that should work well enough
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2019-03-20 16:23:49
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<thedj>
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Lucas_WMDE: well sort of, but at least it's interpretable and limited.
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2019-03-20 16:23:50
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<halfak>
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+1 for grid if it could work. Been reading the docs to figure out how you might engineer a UI that interacts with grid.
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2019-03-20 16:23:50
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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(I have a tool that submits grid jobs taking up to several hours, so it’s definitely possible)
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2019-03-20 16:24:02
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<halfak>
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Anyone know another tool with a UI that uses grid?
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2019-03-20 16:24:09
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<halfak>
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Oh maybe that tool :)
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2019-03-20 16:24:14
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<halfak>
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It would be nice to see how you do it.
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2019-03-20 16:24:30
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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that tool is https://tools.wmflabs.org/wd-shex-infer/, it has documentation and source code links
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2019-03-20 16:24:54
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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see especially GridEngineJobRunner in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/tool-wd-shex-infer/browse/master/job_runner.py
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2019-03-20 16:25:46
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<thedj>
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Think of it like this. trimming can be like moving buckets of stones and leaving some buckets behing. encoding/cropping is like making new buckets, sorting stones and making new stones.
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2019-03-20 16:25:57
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<thedj>
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:D
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2019-03-20 16:27:53
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<Gopa>
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Wow nice :)
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2019-03-20 16:28:02
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<thedj>
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changing the size of each stone is probably a better description. (instead of 'making new stones').
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2019-03-20 16:28:12
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<halfak>
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Lucas_WMDE, ever consider splitting that grid job runner out into its own package?
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2019-03-20 16:28:28
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<halfak>
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Seems very useful for toolforge tools.
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2019-03-20 16:31:29
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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hm, I’m not sure how much code would be left after splitting off the parts specific to my tool tbh
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2019-03-20 16:34:40
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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So just to revive the Technical Advice spirit: Anyone else with questions for the meeting? :-)
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2019-03-20 16:34:48
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<halfak>
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:) Thanks CFisch_WMDE
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2019-03-20 16:46:18
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Ok seems to be a calm last quarter then :-)
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2019-03-20 16:47:22
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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When will PHP7 option come out of the beta?
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2019-03-20 16:48:06
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<halfak>
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"PHP 7 support should be production-complete in the first half of 2019."
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2019-03-20 16:48:12
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<halfak>
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/PHP7
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2019-03-20 16:48:16
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<halfak>
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that's the best info I could find.
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2019-03-20 16:48:49
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<halfak>
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Most recent updates here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176370
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2019-03-20 16:51:02
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<halfak>
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I don't see a clear indication of exactly when
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2019-03-20 16:51:16
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<halfak>
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But I don't see any major blockers being discussed either.
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2019-03-20 16:51:48
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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thanks
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2019-03-20 16:52:47
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<halfak>
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happy to help :)
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2019-03-20 16:59:31
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<halfak>
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OK running to my next meeting. Take care, folks!
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2019-03-20 17:00:57
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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\o
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2019-03-20 17:03:20
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<CFisch_WMDE>
|
So lets wrap up the official part here. And don't forget: You can always ask questions also outside of the advice hours or on https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/ :-)!
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2019-03-20 17:30:47
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; Ruslik0; /* Ability to upload file(wiki azb) */ q; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18952026&oldid=18951721&rcid=13332585
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2019-03-20 18:54:06
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<RhinosF1>
|
Xtools is really slow
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2019-03-20 18:54:31
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<RhinosF1>
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https://xtools.wmflabs.org/autoedits/en.wikipedia.org/RhinosF1
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2019-03-20 18:55:01
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<musikanimal>
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it loads very quickly now because it's cached, but yes the Auto Edits tool in particular is very slow
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2019-03-20 18:55:37
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<musikanimal>
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not much we can do, unfortunately
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2019-03-20 18:57:04
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<RhinosF1>
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musikanimal, Thanks for the quick response.
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2019-03-20 19:04:04
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<Seddon>
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I'm breaking test2.wikimedia.org again jsut in case someone wants to know whats up
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2019-03-20 19:35:16
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<RhinosF1>
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=RF1%20Bot&project=en.wikipedia.org&uselang=en Is getting 502
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2019-03-20 19:36:42
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<musikanimal>
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I forgot there was even a xtools-ec! I can fix the redirect. Anyway the Edit Counter now lives at https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec
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2019-03-20 19:38:46
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<musikanimal>
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https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/RF1%20Bot
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2019-03-20 19:40:48
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<musikanimal>
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and I just fixed https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=RF1%20Bot&project=en.wikipedia.org&uselang=en Thanks for pointing that out
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2019-03-20 19:47:12
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<RhinosF1>
|
Thanks
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2019-03-20 19:48:08
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<RhinosF1>
|
What's the best way to run an IRC Bot in Python 3 on a WMF channel?
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2019-03-20 19:48:19
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<RhinosF1>
|
Could toolforge be used?
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2019-03-20 19:50:09
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<RhinosF1>
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Toolsadmin Is returning WikiMedia Error: Request from 2a00:23c4:9e1e:e900:a5c1:de9e:1e03:d3e9 via cp1087 cp1087, Varnish XID 30610320
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2019-03-20 19:50:09
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<RhinosF1>
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Error: 503, Backend fetch failed at Wed, 20 Mar 2019 19:49:31 GMT
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2019-03-20 19:57:58
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<Krenair>
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RhinosF1, looks like it's fine to me? can you retry?
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2019-03-20 19:59:23
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<RhinosF1>
|
tries again
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2019-03-20 19:59:54
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<RhinosF1>
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Can you advise on IRC Bots? It only needs to post a quick message to a chat.
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2019-03-20 20:00:01
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<Krenair>
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not right now
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2019-03-20 20:00:06
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<RhinosF1>
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Np
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2019-03-20 20:01:20
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<RhinosF1>
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Still down Krenair
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2019-03-20 20:09:47
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<RhinosF1>
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Is there anyway https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P8216 Could be run by anyone?
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2019-03-20 20:37:01
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<RhinosF1>
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Krenair, Toolsadmin Still down for all
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2019-03-20 20:37:04
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<RhinosF1>
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Me
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2019-03-20 20:48:46
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<McJill>
|
CFisch_WMDE: you around?
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2019-03-20 20:50:20
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<McJill>
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Got a year-old commit I wanna chat with you about
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2019-03-20 20:53:47
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; E THP; /* Ability to upload file(wiki azb) */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18952317&oldid=18952026&rcid=13333214
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2019-03-20 20:55:14
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<McJill>
|
Hmmm, timezone fail
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2019-03-20 21:04:48
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<sjoerddebruin>
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Wikidata is showing a sitenotice from 2015, anyone can help?
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2019-03-20 21:15:12
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<James_F>
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sjoerddebruin: Set [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] to '-' (without the quotes), should clear it.
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2019-03-20 21:15:22
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<James_F>
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(But very odd.)
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2019-03-20 21:15:29
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<James_F>
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sjoerddebruin: Or I can.
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2019-03-20 21:15:38
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<sjoerddebruin>
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Done
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2019-03-20 21:15:57
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<sjoerddebruin>
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Sitenotice is one of the oddest features :P
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2019-03-20 21:16:24
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<James_F>
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sjoerddebruin: I imagine it's some local site script that broke with the new train.
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2019-03-20 21:17:22
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<James_F>
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The "hide this message" feature is hacky, though.
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2019-03-20 21:17:25
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<James_F>
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File a task?
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2019-03-20 21:18:07
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<sjoerddebruin>
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It seems fixed now, and yeah
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2019-03-20 21:20:26
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<sjoerddebruin>
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ugh, no specific sitenotice project?
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2019-03-20 22:00:48
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<bawolff>
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DissmissableSitenotice is an extension and should have a tag
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2019-03-20 22:03:28
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<James_F>
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OTOH last real patch there was six years ago: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/project:mediawiki%252Fextensions%252FDismissableSiteNotice
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2019-03-20 22:05:05
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<bawolff>
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I'm surprised its not like 15 years ago
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2019-03-20 22:10:52
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<James_F>
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Well, indeed. :-)
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2019-03-20 22:13:10
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; Kyykaarme; /* Google indexing and caching new pages too fast */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18952606&oldid=18952317&rcid=13333858
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2019-03-20 22:38:32
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<bawolff>
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btw various people are reporting issues with the selectandother OOUI widget on Special:GlobalBlock
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2019-03-20 22:43:09
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<bawolff>
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James_F: I see in a91c33a that OOUI was updated, likely cause of widgets breaking?
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2019-03-20 22:43:32
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<bawolff>
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Well i'll file a bug
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2019-03-20 22:45:52
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<James_F>
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bawolff: Yes. Breaking change, announced on wikitech-l.
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2019-03-20 22:45:56
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<James_F>
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bawolff: What widget?
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2019-03-20 22:46:18
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<bawolff>
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The reason field on block pages
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2019-03-20 22:46:18
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<bawolff>
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aka the "selectandother" htmlform class control
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2019-03-20 22:46:29
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<James_F>
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sighs.
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2019-03-20 22:46:38
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<James_F>
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Yeah, please file UBN tasks.
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2019-03-20 22:46:50
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<bawolff>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218830
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2019-03-20 22:48:05
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<James_F>
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Thanks.
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2019-03-20 23:11:36
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<Seddon>
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Reedy: you about?
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