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2019-01-16 00:20:49
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<KateChapman>
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legoktm: not sure if you saw my email to our team to see if people had projects or wanted to mentor :)
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2019-01-16 00:55:27
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<legoktm>
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KateChapman: yes, I should probably read my backlog :)
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2019-01-16 15:06:54
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<The_Photographer>
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hi
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2019-01-16 15:07:14
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<The_Photographer>
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I have problems uploading a TIFF > 550 Mb
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2019-01-16 15:07:30
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<The_Photographer>
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And of course the TIFF use a internal ZIP compression
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2019-01-16 15:13:20
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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hi
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2019-01-16 15:13:32
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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I have problem with Virtual Editor
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2019-01-16 15:17:59
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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I cannnot edit with VE https://imgur.com/OLhExnw
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2019-01-16 15:20:28
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<The_Photographer>
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the same problem with tiff previewer, it look like a wrong thumbnail imagemagick config on the commons server
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2019-01-16 15:20:39
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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I active this option in beta features https://imgur.com/cIMWIVy
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2019-01-16 15:21:25
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<[1997kB]>
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I am able to edit using VE
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2019-01-16 15:22:47
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<[1997kB]>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pawe%C5%82_Adamowicz&diff=878719115&oldid=878708383 TenPiolodiusz
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2019-01-16 15:22:55
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: but I cannot and I do not why
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2019-01-16 15:23:08
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<[1997kB]>
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any errors?
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2019-01-16 15:23:27
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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no
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2019-01-16 15:24:02
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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I do not have this option
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2019-01-16 15:24:56
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<[1997kB]>
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could you be more specific please?
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2019-01-16 15:27:42
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: I active this option in beta features https://imgur.com/cIMWIVy but I do not have on web page https://imgur.com/OLhExnw
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2019-01-16 15:35:12
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<[1997kB]>
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TenPiolodiusz: ok, so you are not able to see visual difference?
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2019-01-16 15:37:02
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: Yes, I do not.
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2019-01-16 15:37:51
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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I do not see*
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2019-01-16 15:38:02
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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in this sense
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2019-01-16 15:39:31
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<[1997kB]>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pawe%C5%82_Adamowicz&diff=878719115&oldid=878708383 TenPiolodiusz Do you have an option as Visual | Wikitext on top right corner?
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2019-01-16 15:42:16
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: https://imgur.com/g1b1SLv
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2019-01-16 15:44:00
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<[1997kB]>
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there it is, so that what visual difference is. more you can know about it at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Diffs
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2019-01-16 15:46:10
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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ok
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2019-01-16 15:47:19
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: but why i cannot edit in VE?
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2019-01-16 15:47:24
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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i see visual diffs
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2019-01-16 15:47:33
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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but i can't use the VE
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2019-01-16 15:49:14
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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Do you have any special permissions for VE on English Wikipedia?
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2019-01-16 15:49:51
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<[1997kB]>
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I guess not.
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2019-01-16 15:50:17
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @CFisch_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-01-16 15:54:54
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<bd808>
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CFisch_WMDE: Do you have access to the config that is broadcasting the TAIM messages via wm-bot? We removed the token enforcement in #wikimedia-cloud, so the postings there look like "<wm-bot> KPADSIBIJSWJREDMAQUIMNJKNJJHLCQNEEPGSNWJ Technical Advice IRC meeting starting ...". That "KP..." string just needs to be removed from the message sent to mw-bot for that channel.
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2019-01-16 15:55:42
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: on Polish Wikipedia https://imgur.com/lgnBIZe and on English Wikipedia https://imgur.com/pZfubOG
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2019-01-16 15:56:27
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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:/
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2019-01-16 15:58:15
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<[1997kB]>
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TenPiolodiusz: click edit source.
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2019-01-16 15:58:19
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<[1997kB]>
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on enwiki
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2019-01-16 15:59:58
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<[1997kB]>
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and then on editor there's a option in top right corner for changing to visual editor. :P
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2019-01-16 16:01:20
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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\o/
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2019-01-16 16:02:37
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: but i do not have EDIT button xD
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2019-01-16 16:02:51
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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i have only EDIT SOURCE
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2019-01-16 16:02:55
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Welcome to the first Technical Advice IRC Meeting in 2019!
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2019-01-16 16:03:16
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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bd808: Hmm not really I think
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2019-01-16 16:03:23
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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pokes addshore
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2019-01-16 16:03:24
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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CFisch_WMDE: hello!
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2019-01-16 16:03:27
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: YES
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2019-01-16 16:03:30
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<[1997kB]>
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TenPiolodiusz: yes you need to enable it for one.
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2019-01-16 16:03:35
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<[1997kB]>
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once*
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2019-01-16 16:03:45
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<The_Photographer>
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hellow everybody
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2019-01-16 16:03:56
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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[1997kB]: i have it
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2019-01-16 16:03:59
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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thanks :D
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2019-01-16 16:04:07
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<[1997kB]>
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yw :D
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2019-01-16 16:04:30
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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hackerman
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2019-01-16 16:04:54
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<The_Photographer>
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its my first meeting too, i dont know how it work
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2019-01-16 16:05:07
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<The_Photographer>
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I have severals questions
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2019-01-16 16:05:59
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<The_Photographer>
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Actually I'm here to see if someone could follow this problem https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212101
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2019-01-16 16:06:05
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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my problem have been solved
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2019-01-16 16:06:09
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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i quit
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2019-01-16 16:06:26
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<The_Photographer>
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:)
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2019-01-16 16:06:26
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<TenPiolodiusz>
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bye and thanks ;)
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2019-01-16 16:07:26
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Anyone having any questions in the realm of the Technical Advice IRC Meeting? :-)
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2019-01-16 16:07:27
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<addshore>
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\o CFisch_WMDE sorry
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2019-01-16 16:07:30
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<addshore>
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forgot I was hosting this one :D
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2019-01-16 16:07:30
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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np
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2019-01-16 16:07:34
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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hehe
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2019-01-16 16:07:42
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<addshore>
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*reads up*
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2019-01-16 16:08:18
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<The_Photographer>
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CFisch_WMDE: Yes, Why commons not let me upload a file tiff > than 600 Mb?
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2019-01-16 16:08:20
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<addshore>
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bd808: file a ticket? :) we can get it seen to!
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2019-01-16 16:09:26
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<addshore>
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The_Photographer: what size file are you trying to upload?
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2019-01-16 16:09:45
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<addshore>
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and via which upload mechanism ?
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2019-01-16 16:09:45
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<The_Photographer>
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I am working on several projects with the help of local museums, however, it has been impossible to upload the files
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2019-01-16 16:09:51
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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The_Photographer: there are some limits I know of
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2019-01-16 16:10:08
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<addshore>
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The limits are documented at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Maximum_file_size
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2019-01-16 16:10:13
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<The_Photographer>
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addshore: that exactly https://archive.org/download/SacreCoeurDeJesusByLouisJobin1878/Sacre%20Coeur%20de%20Jesus%20by%20Louis%20Jobin%201878.tif
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2019-01-16 16:10:13
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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addshore: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212101
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2019-01-16 16:10:23
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<addshore>
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CFisch_WMDE: amazing
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2019-01-16 16:12:03
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<The_Photographer>
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CFisch_WMDE: yes but the files we are trying to upload comply with the limit, in fact they are 10 times smaller than the higher limit
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2019-01-16 16:13:36
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<deryckchan>
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Hello Tech IRC hour. Is Source Goat there?
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2019-01-16 16:13:40
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<addshore>
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It is probably best to keep and eye and some pressure on the ticket, I don't think it will be able to be solved in this our, but tgr seems to be following the ticket and I expect he knows much more about the issue than I
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2019-01-16 16:14:09
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<addshore>
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*bleat* << deryckchan
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2019-01-16 16:14:47
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<deryckchan>
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Hi addshore! Good to see you here. I seem to see you online everywhere this week - Wikidata, WMUK, Tech IRC
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2019-01-16 16:15:11
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<The_Photographer>
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deryckchan: Wikimedia Commons too
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2019-01-16 16:15:21
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<addshore>
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deryckchan: keep this secret to yourself, but there are actually 10 of me ;)
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2019-01-16 16:15:34
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<addshore>
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we all live in a big crazy house
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2019-01-16 16:15:47
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<deryckchan>
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will do << addshore
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2019-01-16 16:16:05
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<James_F>
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Surely everyone has seen the drama "The Real House Lives Of Addshore"?
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2019-01-16 16:16:17
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<The_Photographer>
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like full house tv serie
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2019-01-16 16:16:18
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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^^'
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2019-01-16 16:16:42
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<deryckchan>
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^^""
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2019-01-16 16:17:14
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<deryckchan>
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Anyway I've got a tech question - Is it possible to transclude Lexeme data on other WMF wikis (e.g. Wiktionary) yet?
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2019-01-16 16:18:33
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<addshore>
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deryckchan: no, unless I missed something
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2019-01-16 16:18:35
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<addshore>
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:D
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2019-01-16 16:19:02
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<addshore>
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I'm not even sure there is a phabricator ticket for that
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2019-01-16 16:19:27
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<addshore>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/search/query/S_7Eg71PDD4N/#R nope
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2019-01-16 16:20:54
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<tgr>
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addshore: that task needs some serious debugging (or someone with a better grasp on upload DB logic than me), it's caused by lock timeouts and since only the same user could lock the row and it's unlikely that multiple tools would mess up chunked uploading and send multiple chunks at the same time, something strange must be happening there
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2019-01-16 16:21:32
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<addshore>
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The_Photographer: ^^
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2019-01-16 16:21:35
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<tgr>
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I plan to look into it when I have free time, if its urgent you should probably find someone from the multimedia team though
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2019-01-16 16:22:34
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<The_Photographer>
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:)
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2019-01-16 16:22:46
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<The_Photographer>
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tgr: thanks soo much
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2019-01-16 16:24:35
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<The_Photographer>
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If the issue of TIFF is too complicated, I am open to changing the format, however, TIFF is the only one with no loss of quality available in commons, In fact, channels in TIFF files can be in any IEEE 754 floating-point format too, including the 128 bit one, for 384 bits (48 bytes) per pixel in the RGB, YCbCr and CIE Lab* formats and 512 bits (64 bytes) per pixel in the CMYK format. Same applies to any alpha channel
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2019-01-16 16:24:49
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<The_Photographer>
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*lossless
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2019-01-16 16:30:30
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<The_Photographer>
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anyway, thanks tgr for follow this ticket
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2019-01-16 16:31:10
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Sooo anyone else with a question at hand?
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2019-01-16 16:31:11
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<tgr>
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The_Photographer: it's a DB-level error so not obviously related to anything other than image size
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2019-01-16 16:31:17
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<The_Photographer>
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deryckchan: just to put you in context, the ticket that we speak is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212101
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2019-01-16 16:31:56
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<deryckchan>
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Thank you The_Photographer
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2019-01-16 16:36:45
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<deryckchan>
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Can I squeeze in with another question - now that we have "captions" turned on for Commons, is there any plan to mass-migrate existing filedesc content to captions?
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2019-01-16 16:37:10
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<deryckchan>
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And if I'm uploading a new file, should I be typing the caption into file description or the new caption field?
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2019-01-16 16:40:53
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<andre__>
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deryckchan: #wikimedia-multimedia might know
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2019-01-16 16:41:37
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Maybe even addshore might know, but since we're only the tech guys I am not sure if we can answer at least the 2nd question
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2019-01-16 16:42:04
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<addshore>
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deryckchan: James_F also might know :)
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2019-01-16 16:42:08
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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I'm pretty sure there's no plan to mass-migrate though
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2019-01-16 16:42:14
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<addshore>
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(and he said something in here not too long ago)
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2019-01-16 16:42:54
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<James_F>
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deryckchan: We at the Foundation are writing software. It's up to the Commons community to decide how to use it.
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2019-01-16 16:43:02
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<addshore>
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[=
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2019-01-16 16:43:33
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<James_F>
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We certainly won't be mass-migrating descriptions into captions.
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2019-01-16 16:43:55
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<James_F>
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Right now UploadWizard enforces at least on description, but no captions, per the Commons community's (pre-SDC) request.
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2019-01-16 16:44:11
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<James_F>
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Obviously that could be changed, but it's a bit premature right now.
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2019-01-16 16:45:36
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<James_F>
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Apart from anything else, I imagine that the Commons community will want to wait a bit to see how things work out, decide what policies they want and how to patrol/enforce them, adjust their Information template to pull captions where descriptions are not set, and *then* think about mass-migration.
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2019-01-16 16:45:40
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<James_F>
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deryckchan: Does that answer your question?
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2019-01-16 16:48:35
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<deryckchan>
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James_F: not entirely - for new files, do you think it'll be useful to put the caption in both the caption field and filedesc? Or will that become an obstacle later on (because there will be conflicting captions to be checked)?
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2019-01-16 16:49:42
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<James_F>
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deryckchan: Again, I think that's a judgement call for the community to make, but I'd encourage use of captions now. Resolving things for 0.01% of files manually won't be the end of the world.
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2019-01-16 16:50:36
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<deryckchan>
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ok :)
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2019-01-16 16:52:51
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<deryckchan>
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I'm impressed by James_F 's confidence that manually checking 50k files will be fine...! Last year I wrote a PAWS script so a few of us migrate 50k WD qualifiers and I thought that was hard enough
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2019-01-16 16:53:33
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<deryckchan>
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addshore: I've created a phab ticket about Lexemes and subscribed you. Feel free to edit (or even unsubscribe) as you see appropriate
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2019-01-16 16:53:44
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<addshore>
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deryckchan: I saw :)
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2019-01-16 16:54:48
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<deryckchan>
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that's it from me today, thank you Source Goat and team :)
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2019-01-16 17:00:21
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<addshore>
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I think thats us!
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2019-01-16 17:01:53
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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#o-
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2019-01-16 17:01:59
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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ups de keyboard
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2019-01-16 17:02:03
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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\o/
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2019-01-16 17:02:40
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<addshore>
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\o
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2019-01-16 17:18:31
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<Migrant>
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I just noticed something when I changed my userprofile at 'Special:Preferences' for the 'Internationalisation' from 'nb - norsk bokm�l' to 'en - English' i got back the possibility to edit through 'HotCat' at several wikipedias and also 'wikimedia-commons'. and could also edit in the newly implemented 'captions' at 'wikimedia-commons'. Why does this happen ? and can it be fixed ?
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2019-01-16 17:19:19
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<Migrant>
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James_F : do you have any idea ?
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2019-01-16 17:23:08
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<James_F>
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Migrant: I don't, sorry.
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2019-01-16 17:44:59
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<Migrant>
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James_F : when i changed back again to my preferred language again I kept the wider editing possibility maybe it was just something that loaded late for me
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2019-01-16 17:45:51
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<James_F>
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Migrant: Very odd. But glad it now works.
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2019-01-16 17:57:22
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<stjn>
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FileImporter/Data Out of curiosity: maybe these pages should be at least autoconfirmed-protected? There's not a lot of people looking after pages on MediaWiki.org
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2019-01-16 18:17:01
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<tgr>
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stjn: oh huh, that seems... unwise
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2019-01-16 18:17:13
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<tgr>
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why not put them on the affected wikis in the first place?
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2019-01-16 18:17:39
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<stjn>
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I was thinking that too, tbh
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2019-01-16 18:22:02
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<bawolff>
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I think there's a bug filed about how that's silly
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2019-01-16 18:22:13
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<bawolff>
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but then again, there's a bug for everything
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2019-01-16 18:26:20
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<tgr>
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titleblacklist can do autoconfirmed protection, right?
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2019-01-16 18:26:30
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<tgr>
|
that would probably be worth setting up
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2019-01-16 18:27:27
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<stjn>
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Yeah, <noedit|autoconfirmed>.
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2019-01-16 19:27:23
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<Nemo_bis>
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Answered at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Migrant#Language_preference_and_gadgets
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2019-01-16 19:37:34
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<James_F>
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stashbot: I complained a while ago about those not being in the MediaWiki namespace for the communities to manage, but was told it was "fine".
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2019-01-16 19:37:34
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<stashbot>
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See https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tool:Stashbot for help.
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2019-01-16 22:44:35
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<Sagan>
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how can I use the API to get the article of a wiki (for example dewiki) from an wikidata item?
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2019-01-16 22:45:54
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<Krenair>
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Sagan, https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q1
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2019-01-16 22:46:58
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<Krenair>
|
alex@alex-laptop:~$ curl -s "https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q1&format=json"; | jq '.entities.Q1.sitelinks.enwiki.title'
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2019-01-16 22:46:58
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<Krenair>
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"Universe"
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2019-01-16 22:47:07
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<Krenair>
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Sagan, ^
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2019-01-16 22:47:14
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<Sagan>
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Krenair, thank you very much :)
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2019-01-16 22:47:32
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<Krenair>
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FWIW I didn't know this up front, I just went to the wikidata api.php and started looking at what was available
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2019-01-16 22:53:51
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<Sagan>
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Krenair, I looked using API Sandbox, but I looked under action=query, that was my fault
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2019-01-16 22:54:07
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<Krenair>
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ah
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2019-01-16 22:54:23
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<Krenair>
|
yes that would be the traditional MW way I suppose
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2019-01-16 22:54:38
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<Krenair>
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not sure how much that has been used in practice alongside ContentHandler stuff like Wikibase
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2019-01-16 22:54:51
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<Krenair>
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should be possible to implement such modules through it... hmm
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2019-01-16 22:55:17
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<Krenair>
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yeah it looks like wikibase uses it for search and stuff
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