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2016-01-26 07:55:34 <snitch> [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2015]].;
2016-01-26 08:20:32 <snitch> [[Tech]];; [none];
2016-01-26 08:21:07 <snitch> [[Tech]]; Legoktm; Undo revision 15276374 by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]);
2016-01-26 09:52:13 <whym> apparently an intense blanking vandalism reduced ja.wikipedia's article count by several thousands two days ago
2016-01-26 09:52:41 <whym> the pages were fixed, but the count does not seem to restore.
2016-01-26 09:52:56 <whym> will it be fixed in the next monthly recalculation?
2016-01-26 11:58:11 <s24w> Is there in any source code to be download before starting contributing?
2016-01-26 12:00:28 <Base-w> s24w: what do you want to contribute to?
2016-01-26 12:01:25 <Base-w> ah you were saying something about gsoc in another room
2016-01-26 12:01:49 <Base-w> Nemo_bis: knows stuff about gsoc
2016-01-26 12:02:16 <s24w> yes
2016-01-26 12:02:21 <s24w> nobody replied there
2016-01-26 12:02:44 <s24w> I am just searching organizations to apply this summer
2016-01-26 12:03:20 <Base-w> have some patience, here are a lot of people who live in different timezones all over the world, some are having night or work time atm, so they cannot reply immediately
2016-01-26 12:04:19 <s24w> Ok. I take that.
2016-01-26 12:43:02 <Nemo_bis> omg GCI just ended and we already have gsoc wannabes knocking at our doors :)
2016-01-26 12:43:21 <andre__> :D
2016-01-26 12:43:38 <andre__> can't hurt.
2016-01-26 13:19:06 <Reedy> andre__: Nemo_bis not a bad way of initial yay/nay filtering
2016-01-26 18:18:54 <legoktm>
2016-01-26 18:23:49 <Josve05away> I'm geting 404's when creating pages!
2016-01-26 18:27:15 <Vito> Houston, we've got a big problem
2016-01-26 18:27:23 <Vito> There is no user by the name "Vituzzu". Check your spelling. <-- while trying loggin to meta
2016-01-26 18:31:56 <Base-w> yay huray
2016-01-26 18:32:11 <Base-w> recalls old grudges
2016-01-26 18:32:12 <Base-w> :)
2016-01-26 18:32:20 <Base-w> just joking for sure
2016-01-26 18:33:09 <Base-w> gives 404 :O
2016-01-26 18:33:25 <Pyb> and Commons redirect to WMF
2016-01-26 18:33:33 <andre__> There are multiple issues which are currently being investigated in #wikimedia-operations (if you want to watch)
2016-01-26 18:33:36 <Base-w> looks like
2016-01-26 18:33:43 <andre__> Sorry for the hassle.
2016-01-26 18:33:43 <Vito> that's the end of the World
2016-01-26 18:33:49 <Vito> Google attacked us
2016-01-26 18:37:30 <Leah> Mark jokes as such, please.
2016-01-26 18:41:54 <mpeel> Commons and Meta seem to be redirects to the WMF now?
2016-01-26 18:42:06 <Leah> mpeel: Bad deployment, being reverted currently.
2016-01-26 18:43:23 <mpeel> Leah: Impressively bad to take down several big projects!
2016-01-26 18:43:54 <Leah> mpeel: Someone futzed with Turns out there's quite a few things living there. ;-)
2016-01-26 18:44:22 <mpeel> Um ... yes, just a few.
2016-01-26 18:45:51 <andre__> Known issue, currently being worked on in #wikimedia-operations -
2016-01-26 18:46:10 <mpeel> just quoted you on wikimedia-l, Leah, hope that's OK.
2016-01-26 18:46:54 <Leah> mpeel: Heh, that's fine.
2016-01-26 18:47:50 <jeblad> Huston, we have a problem...
2016-01-26 18:48:08 <jeblad> The domain is somehow wrong
2016-01-26 18:48:08 <sjoerddebruin> jeblad: thanks, captain obvious
2016-01-26 18:48:20 <Wiki13> lol
2016-01-26 18:48:25 <jeblad> I tell the nowiki community ;)
2016-01-26 18:48:27 <pnsrc> I don't know if it is the right place to ask, so sorry if it is off-topic. Is there any work to rewrite non-https external links to https links when they support it?
2016-01-26 18:48:27 <sjoerddebruin> 10 minutes and everything is okay again it seems
2016-01-26 18:48:37 <MatmaRex> (known issue:
2016-01-26 18:50:13 <jeblad> 10% of the Norwegian community are dead of heart attack, and counting 11%...
2016-01-26 18:50:40 <jeblad> Keep up the good work! =)
2016-01-26 18:50:43 <Leah> pnsrc: We can discuss in #mediawiki.
2016-01-26 19:17:08 <pajz> Already known that seems to be down?
2016-01-26 19:17:38 <andre__> Thanks for reporting. Yes, see
2016-01-26 19:17:43 <andre__> pajz, ^^
2016-01-26 19:17:57 <andre__> currently being worked on in #wikimedia-operations (they are aware)
2016-01-26 19:18:28 <darkweasel> pajz: this applies to all * things i think
2016-01-26 19:18:32 <darkweasel> even commons and meta and such
2016-01-26 19:18:33 <andre__> yes
2016-01-26 19:18:44 <pajz> Oh, I see, thanks.
2016-01-26 19:22:04 <darkweasel> seems to be working again
2016-01-26 19:22:07 <darkweasel> commons at least
2016-01-27 03:49:39 <snitch> [[Tech]]; Bomberswarm2; /* cast generator */ new section;
2016-01-27 05:20:48 <PovAddict> hi
2016-01-27 05:21:47 <PovAddict> I need to import tasks from a crappy custom ticket tracking system into Phabricator's Maniphest, and it seems you guys have experience with that from the Bugzilla migration :)
2016-01-27 05:23:20 <PovAddict> how did you manage to change the creation timestamp of tasks and comments in phab?
2016-01-27 05:24:11 <PovAddict> hmm
2016-01-27 05:24:32 <PovAddict> in I see all comments are from bzimport and credited to the original user in the comment text itself... is there no way around that? :/
2016-01-27 05:26:41 <Matthew_> PovAddict: In that case, the user didn’t associate his account with his old bugzilla email.
2016-01-27 05:27:10 <PovAddict> oh, now I see the very last comment is attributed properly
2016-01-27 05:27:14 <Matthew_> Notice the bottom comment? We only migrated early last year.
2016-01-27 05:27:33 <PovAddict> at first I thought all comments were attributed to bzimport
2016-01-27 05:27:46 <PovAddict> because skimming is the best I can do at 2:20am
2016-01-27 05:27:54 <Matthew_> No. You picked an odd bug to look at. Hold on.
2016-01-27 05:27:58 <PovAddict> :)
2016-01-27 05:28:13 <PovAddict> I literally typed random numbers after a T
2016-01-27 05:28:34 <Matthew_> Here is one that was imported farily completely.
2016-01-27 05:28:57 <PovAddict> that looks pretty great :o
2016-01-27 05:29:24 <Matthew_> I wasn’t part of the migration, so I can’t offer any information byond that. My apologies.
2016-01-27 05:30:11 <PovAddict> any chance the scripts are somewhere public?
2016-01-27 05:30:31 <Matthew_> Probalby so. Let me look.
2016-01-27 05:35:20 <Matthew_> PovAddict: I believe it is in , however; I’m not positive.
2016-01-27 05:35:29 <Matthew_> was our migration task.
2016-01-27 05:35:43 <PovAddict> I saw T259 and a few of its blockers
2016-01-27 05:37:51 <Matthew_> Okay.
2016-01-27 05:38:32 <Matthew_> Again, I”m sorry I wasn’t involved in the migration and don’t know more.
2016-01-27 05:39:24 <Matthew_> Username “chasemp” appearrs to be the go-to person but he doesn’t appear to be on right now.
2016-01-27 05:41:53 <PovAddict> hm, migration date was Nov 22 2014?
2016-01-27 05:42:45 <Matthew_> Sounds about right.
2016-01-27 05:43:05 <PovAddict> then I'm not sure if proves much since most comments and changes were done after that :D
2016-01-27 05:46:02 <Matthew_> About there yes.
2016-01-27 05:46:14 <PovAddict> but anyway
2016-01-27 05:46:18 <PovAddict> it seems y'all did do what I need to do
2016-01-27 05:47:52 <Matthew_> Yep.
2016-01-27 05:48:09 <Matthew_> Again, I don’t know too much. casemp will, but he is not on right now and I don’t know when he will return.
2016-01-27 05:48:27 <PovAddict> well, I don't know in what timezone he is but this is generally a bad time in most places :D
2016-01-27 05:48:34 <PovAddict> so that's expected
2016-01-27 05:50:35 <Matthew_> *chasemp
2016-01-27 05:50:36 <Matthew_> Yes.
2016-01-27 06:02:22 <PovAddict> I thought conduit had been modified to allow the bot to make changes it's not usually allowed to
2016-01-27 06:03:01 <PovAddict> looks like that's not the case, uses conduit to create the task and then raw SQL to edit fields like the creation timestamp
2016-01-27 11:13:00 <snitch> [[Tech]]; Ruslik0; /* cast generator */;
2016-01-27 18:17:51 <ragesoss> tgr, anomie: I think there are still occasional errors when a user tries to do OAuth with a just-created account.
2016-01-27 18:18:33 <ragesoss> Unless there it was a different user with the same IP (possible, as it's a student in a Wiki Ed class), I think it happened to this user:
2016-01-27 18:19:04 <anomie> ragesoss: Can you be more specific than "occasional errors"?
2016-01-27 18:19:22 <ragesoss> "error":"mwoauthdatastore-access-token-not-found","message":"No approved grant was found for that authorization token."
2016-01-27 18:20:17 <anomie> ragesoss: Also, I note only and test wikis are on wmf.11 at this point...
2016-01-27 18:20:26 <ragesoss> anomie: that's what breaks the mediawiki omniauth gem (which is the fault of that gem, for not handling the error better).
2016-01-27 18:20:33 <ragesoss> anomie: I don't think this is new.
2016-01-27 18:21:09 <ragesoss> it's just that I didn't have enough info to understand why my system occasioinally blew up during user login.
2016-01-27 18:21:55 <ragesoss> but we added some new debugging code to figure it out, and that's the message that I found this morning from the first failed login since the debugging was in place.
2016-01-27 18:21:57 <tgr> so it's like register on enwiki -> authorize OAuth on enwiki -> try an API request to enwiki -> mwoauthdatastore-access-token-not-found ?
2016-01-27 18:22:06 <ragesoss> tgr: right.
2016-01-27 18:22:35 <ragesoss> (We also added a useful error message telling the user to try again, so it looks like it worked on second try for that user.)
2016-01-27 18:23:18 <ragesoss> specifically, it's register on enwiki with a returntoquery that immediate takes the user to the authorize url.
2016-01-27 18:24:50 <ragesoss>
2016-01-27 18:25:35 <ragesoss> or for test.wikipedia:
2016-01-27 18:27:25 <tgr> master-slave lag, maybe?
2016-01-27 18:27:38 <tgr> if the API request follows the authorization very closely
2016-01-27 18:29:52 <ragesoss> yeah, could be almost immediately if the user clicks quickly. Or pretty much immediately every time, if that routine fires before the user clicks Allow.
2016-01-27 18:30:27 <ragesoss> (that is, when going through the new account flow from our site)
2016-01-27 18:30:31 <tgr> how often does this happen, could you tell the difference immediately if it was fixed?
2016-01-27 18:30:54 <tgr> (immediately = in a few days)
2016-01-27 18:31:00 <ragesoss> yes.
2016-01-27 18:31:14 <ragesoss> happens several times a day, during this busy sign-up time.
2016-01-27 18:31:24 <tgr> cool, can you file a phab task for it?
2016-01-27 18:31:30 <ragesoss> will do.
2016-01-27 18:41:43 <csteipp> Nikerabbit: Do you have a link to the AbuseFilter surfacing work? One of the stewards was asking me about that recently.
2016-01-27 18:42:42 <Nikerabbit> csteipp: sure
2016-01-27 18:43:02 <Nikerabbit> csteipp: top-level ticket
2016-01-27 18:43:59 <csteipp> Nikerabbit: Cool, thanks
2016-01-27 18:44:14 <Nikerabbit> csteipp: might be useful update... there is quite a lot of chatter in the task
2016-01-27 18:44:31 <hoo> Can we kill AbuseFilter altogether? *sigh*
2016-01-27 18:45:03 <Nikerabbit> hoo: I wouldn't oppose myself, but...
2016-01-27 18:46:27 <hoo> I know...
2016-01-27 18:46:39 <hoo> I wish I had the time to write an alternative and stuff
2016-01-27 18:49:01 <MatmaRex> eh, what's wrong with abusefilter?
2016-01-27 18:50:49 <Krenair> it has it's own language
2016-01-27 18:52:16 <Nemo_bis> it is tightly integrated with our editors
2016-01-27 18:52:35 <Nemo_bis> (meaning action=edit, VE and friends, not the users)
2016-01-27 18:53:40 <Krenair> Nemo_bis, not sure I understand what you're trying to say
2016-01-27 20:24:46 <doctaxon> Hi! Is here the right chatroom to talk about an API application problem?
2016-01-27 20:26:21 <ori> depends; what's the problem?
2016-01-27 20:26:53 <doctaxon> I don't know how to upload a pdf-file to wikipedia
2016-01-27 20:27:02 <doctaxon> API:Upload
2016-01-27 20:28:01 <ori> do you have to use the API? can you use ?
2016-01-27 20:28:41 <doctaxon> i got the error line: code badupload_file info {File upload param file is not a file upload; be sure to use multipart/form-data for your POST and include a filename in the Content-Disosition header
2016-01-27 20:29:02 <doctaxon> i don't upload to commons
2016-01-27 20:29:11 <doctaxon> no UploadWizard
2016-01-27 20:29:17 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: Are you using multipart/form-data as it suggests?
2016-01-27 20:29:39 <doctaxon> what is multipart/form-data?
2016-01-27 20:30:07 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: A way to transmit data to our API. How are you uploading the file if not with that?
2016-01-27 20:30:40 <hoo> Why not just use Special:Upload
2016-01-27 20:31:32 <doctaxon> I cannot use Special:Upload because my connection is too slow for 100 MB file
2016-01-27 20:32:59 <doctaxon> MarkTraceur: I use it like stated in API:Upload: api.php?action=upload&filename=wta16.pdf&file=$contents&token=$token
2016-01-27 20:33:24 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: In a GET request?
2016-01-27 20:33:29 <doctaxon> yes
2016-01-27 20:33:39 <MarkTraceur> Well that's silly
2016-01-27 20:33:58 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: What HTTP client are you using?
2016-01-27 20:34:02 <doctaxon> no, in a post request
2016-01-27 20:34:05 <doctaxon> sorry
2016-01-27 20:34:44 <doctaxon> http client?
2016-01-27 20:34:58 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: Do you know what HTTP is?
2016-01-27 20:35:00 <doctaxon> I am starting it from tools.taxonbot
2016-01-27 20:35:09 <MarkTraceur> Uhhh
2016-01-27 20:35:10 <doctaxon> in a shell
2016-01-27 20:35:13 <hoo> What application do oyu use to talk to the API?
2016-01-27 20:35:49 <doctaxon> i am using the tcl framework
2016-01-27 20:36:06 <doctaxon> hallo hoo
2016-01-27 20:36:20 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: Okay, look up how the framework supports multipart/form-data
2016-01-27 20:37:28 <doctaxon> I am not able to look up, didn't wrote the framework?
2016-01-27 20:37:40 <hoo> If you have pywikibot set up, you can use that. It's easy with
2016-01-27 20:37:49 <hoo> it
2016-01-27 20:38:04 <doctaxon> ich versteh kein python
2016-01-27 20:38:06 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: There's this cool new thing called Google
2016-01-27 20:38:38 <Nemo_bis> doctaxon: no need to know python
2016-01-27 20:38:46 <doctaxon> how'd google help?
2016-01-27 20:39:13 <MarkTraceur> doctaxon: Search for tcl multipart form data upload
2016-01-27 20:42:22 <doctaxon> hoo: I had had pywikibot but the login data collided with the tcl framework. I couldn't run both tcl and pywikibot on tools.taxonbot
2016-01-27 20:44:38 <doctaxon> hoo: or I have to install pywikibot alternative way
2016-01-27 20:45:18 <hoo> pywikibot has AFAIR
2016-01-27 20:45:34 <hoo> but I haven't set it up in a while, so I'm no help there
2016-01-27 20:48:33 <doctaxon> is there another way to upload a big file by a slow connection?
2016-01-27 20:49:17 <hoo> There are many, but I'm not aware of other easy ones
2016-01-27 20:49:31 <hoo> easier as pywikibot, that is
2016-01-27 20:50:56 <doctaxon> hoo: nicht unbedingt per Skript, sondern mit irgendwelchen Tools oder Specials oder was es da so gibt?
2016-01-27 20:54:02 <hoo> hm... commonist vllt.?
2016-01-27 20:54:18 <doctaxon> es geht nicht um commons
2016-01-27 20:54:22 <hoo> Gibt ein paar, aber mir fällt sonst nicht ein
2016-01-27 20:54:29 <doctaxon> das ding soll nach dewp
2016-01-27 20:54:30 <hoo> Commonist kann auch andere Wikis AFAIR
2016-01-27 20:54:35 <doctaxon> ach so
2016-01-27 21:13:17 <doctaxon> hoo: commonist running, hope for success
2016-01-27 21:13:38 <hoo> :)
2016-01-27 21:15:33 <doctaxon> hoo: fällt mir gerade ein, ich hab gar nix fürs Datei-Lemma ausgefüllt bzw. dazu ein feld gefunden
2016-01-27 21:17:25 <hoo> Kann man alles nachtragen
2016-01-27 21:17:45 <doctaxon> ja, is nicht so schlimm
2016-01-27 21:18:38 <doctaxon> hoo: das sollen jetzt genau 99,91 MB sein
2016-01-27 21:43:42 <doctaxon> hoo: commonist hat's ganz sauber hochgeladen und auf user:Doc Taxon/gallery geschoben. scheint wohl standard zu sein. Danke für Deine Hilfe
2016-01-27 21:44:21 <hoo> Prima, bitte

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