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2018-03-21 10:32:37 <Vermont> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Psl631#Can_somewone_change_the_content_model_on_my_user_page_to_"HTML";?
2018-03-21 10:32:43 <Vermont> anyone know an answer for this?
2018-03-21 10:33:08 <Vermont> he asked and i have no idea
2018-03-21 10:56:01 <sjoerddebruin> Vermont: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ChangeContentModel/User:Psl631 HTML is not an option.
2018-03-21 10:56:08 <Vermont> Thanks
2018-03-21 10:56:20 <sjoerddebruin> Also, ask him for some medication for my eyes now.
2018-03-21 12:27:23 <Dispenser> What the policy of CC-BY-NC on ToolForge? I'm looking at some font with a similar license (Free to redistribute, No selling nor derivative)
2018-03-21 12:29:30 <andre__> Dispenser: #wikimedia-cloud
2018-03-21 12:31:24 <Dispenser> got it
2018-03-21 15:26:22 <Nudin_WMDE> Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @Christoph_Jauera_(WMDE) - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
2018-03-21 15:52:35 <addshore> oooooh
2018-03-21 15:52:38 <addshore> 8 mins left!
2018-03-21 15:53:06 <Reedy> addshore: behave
2018-03-21 15:53:13 <addshore> 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2018-03-21 15:59:19 <addshore> 1
2018-03-21 16:00:05 <addshore> HELOOOO! And welcome to this weeks technical advice IRC meeting, with yours hosts CFisch_WMDE and I, here to help you out in any way we can (via IRC) [=
2018-03-21 16:00:13 <CFisch_WMDE> !!!
2018-03-21 16:00:27 <CFisch_WMDE> \o/
2018-03-21 16:00:45 <CFisch_WMDE> Get the party started!
2018-03-21 16:01:39 <addshore> WOOOOOO
2018-03-21 16:02:22 <addshore> Shameless plugging, if anyone want to see how 200k video views on youtube translates to 15k article views https://addshore.com/2018/03/spike-in-adam-conover-wikipedia-page-views-wikiwhat-epsiode-4/
2018-03-21 16:02:52 <addshore> wants to go and look at some other trending youtube videos and see if any visible pageview increase exists for their topics
2018-03-21 16:05:08 <CFisch_WMDE> ...like funny goat videos and the article about goats?
2018-03-21 16:05:17 <addshore> perhaps ;)
2018-03-21 16:05:32 <addshore> So, I have a vauge question....
2018-03-21 16:05:33 <addshore> ....
2018-03-21 16:06:10 <Reedy> You're here to answer, not ask!
2018-03-21 16:06:17 <addshore> I want to write a blog post comparing github PRs and gerrit change setrs and chains, and I want something that is easy to use for creating tree like diagrams (essentialy representing chains of commits) any thoughts?
2018-03-21 16:06:18 <addshore> Reedy: shhh
2018-03-21 16:08:42 <CFisch_WMDE> hmmm
2018-03-21 16:08:51 <CFisch_WMDE> no idea
2018-03-21 16:08:57 <addshore> well, i just had a scroll through https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1838873/visualizing-branch-topology-in-git?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa and found a bunch, I'll see which is best
2018-03-21 16:25:56 <Lucas_WMDE> addshore: Graphviz / dot?
2018-03-21 16:26:25 <Lucas_WMDE> I used it for the graphs in https://lucaswerkmeister.de/posts/2017/09/03/wikidata+dgsh/
2018-03-21 16:26:35 <Lucas_WMDE> (you can append Makefile to that URL to peek behind the curtain ;) )
2018-03-21 16:27:52 <addshore> ooh Lucas_WMDE that could be perfect!
2018-03-21 16:38:56 <addshore> Lucas_WMDE: YAY http://webgraphviz.com/
2018-03-21 16:39:14 <Lucas_WMDE> heh, nice :D
2018-03-21 16:40:20 <CFisch_WMDE> Soo just to be sure... anyone I need for technical help around mediawiki and related projects?
2018-03-21 16:40:39 <Lucas_WMDE> addshore: apparently that runs in the browser, I can’t see any network requests…
2018-03-21 16:40:49 <Lucas_WMDE> emscripten or that sort of stuff, I guess?
2018-03-21 16:40:55 <Lucas_WMDE> (sorry CFisch_WMDE ^^ )
2018-03-21 16:41:03 <CFisch_WMDE> No problem :-)
2018-03-21 16:58:19 <addshore> well, quite a quiet one!
2018-03-21 17:12:28 <CFisch_WMDE> and over already ^^
2018-03-21 17:18:53 <TK-999> ohh I forgot about it :(
2018-03-21 22:42:40 <johnywhy_> hello, anyone home?
2018-03-21 22:45:31 <andre__> johnywhy_: Likely.
2018-03-21 22:46:05 <johnywhy_> thx, too late to submit support question?
2018-03-21 22:46:23 <andre__> Don't ask to ask on IRC.
2018-03-21 22:46:30 <andre__> Just ask :)
2018-03-21 22:50:50 <johnywhy_> I attempted a fix on an extension, but my fix did not seem to work. Any suggestions? Details: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190343
2018-03-21 22:51:01 <johnywhy_> ConfirmAccount extension
2018-03-21 22:51:53 <andre__> I'd recommend to also ask in #wikimedia-dev which might be better suited but is also way noisier unfortunately
2018-03-21 23:18:08 <johnywhy_> @andre__ no answer over there. Feel free to "just answer" :D
2018-03-21 23:27:37 <Platonides> johnywhy_ I wonder why it is done this way
2018-03-21 23:29:56 <johnywhy_> Platonides ?
2018-03-21 23:30:15 <johnywhy_> me too
2018-03-21 23:31:42 <Platonides> I think the goal is different
2018-03-21 23:32:08 <johnywhy_> i'm listening
2018-03-21 23:32:19 <Platonides> runAutoMaintenance() is called to automatically reject requests older than $wgRejectedAccountMaxAge
2018-03-21 23:32:35 <Platonides> an account rejected manually should not need that
2018-03-21 23:32:41 <Platonides> (as one would expect)
2018-03-21 23:33:06 <johnywhy_> "pruning of old requests will not trigger often, so old rejected requests may persist." https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount#Known_issues
2018-03-21 23:34:16 <Platonides> it may simply mean that requests that should be considered rejected may be found there
2018-03-21 23:36:17 <johnywhy_> rejected requests are no longer listed in "open requests" list. But same email cannot request again, until prune. Prune happens infrequently.
2018-03-21 23:36:49 <Platonides> how are you testing this?
2018-03-21 23:39:38 <johnywhy_> - install ConfirmAccounts. - Request an account. - Login as admin, and reject the request. Then logout. - Request against with same email. Receive "Username is already in use in a pending account request."
2018-03-21 23:40:34 <johnywhy_> Then insert one line of code into function rejectRequest: ConfirmAccount::runAutoMaintenance();
2018-03-21 23:40:52 <johnywhy_> then test again, with a different email. Same error.
2018-03-21 23:44:09 <Platonides> set a lower $wgRejectedAccountMaxAge
2018-03-21 23:44:25 <johnywhy_> thx! will try it
2018-03-21 23:44:28 <Platonides> # How long to store rejected requests
2018-03-21 23:44:28 <Platonides> $wgRejectedAccountMaxAge = 7 * 24 * 3600; // 1 week
2018-03-21 23:45:05 <Platonides> what I was talkign before was the similarly named $wgConfirmAccountRejectAge :P
2018-03-21 23:45:42 <johnywhy_> these are in LocalSettings.php? Or in the extension php?
2018-03-21 23:47:09 <Platonides> yes
2018-03-21 23:47:15 <Platonides> you set those in LocalSettings.php
2018-03-21 23:47:26 <Platonides> after loading ConfirmAccount
2018-03-21 23:50:20 <johnywhy_> where did you find those switches? not listed on extension page
2018-03-21 23:50:30 <johnywhy_> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
2018-03-21 23:53:26 <johnywhy_> those switches are defined in ConfirmAccount.config.php. Is that a standard file for extensions?
2018-03-21 23:54:35 <Platonides> I don't think so
2018-03-21 23:54:41 <Platonides> it was created in 2011
2018-03-21 23:54:59 <Platonides> hmm
2018-03-21 23:55:05 <johnywhy_> i mean extensionName.config.php
2018-03-21 23:55:24 <johnywhy_> how do we know same switches in LocalSettings.php will override that file?
2018-03-21 23:55:31 <Platonides> I see a few more extensions doing it: MwEmbedSupport, UploadWizard and TimedMediaHandler
2018-03-21 23:56:25 <johnywhy_> thx for checking. TinyMCE doesn't.
2018-03-21 23:56:58 <Platonides> I only found those 4 extensions doing it
2018-03-21 23:57:15 <Platonides> out of ~520
2018-03-21 23:59:10 <johnywhy_> ok, so maybe a standard. Separate issue: it seems those switches might force a prune, based on a timeout. My goal is to force a prune on every Reject action. Seems those switches won't do that.

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