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2017-04-22 01:02:53
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<Alphos>
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facepalms
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2017-04-22 01:05:07
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<Alphos>
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i create a bot that mass reverts stuff. i ask for a bot flag. i wait for a testbed (it's not often you have to mass revert). i find one that's suitable. I run the bot to prove it works as intended. the bot gets blocked indefinitely as unapproved.
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2017-04-22 01:09:31
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<Alphos>
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did i mention it was blocked two days after completing its run, and it wasn't doing anything anymore ? >_>
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2017-04-22 14:46:32
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<multichill>
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aude: I'm looking for the task to index strings in statements in the search engine. Quite sure we had one, but can't find it. See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Tool_to_look_for_the_existence_of_one_identifier_in_Wikidata
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2017-04-22 15:05:05
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<Alphos>
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hey people
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2017-04-22 15:06:45
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<Alphos>
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i don't mean to be a bother, but would you consider normal to block a bot in training wheels, as its request is pending, two days after it's completed its test run with reasonable success (there are things it can't do, but it did no harm), because it doesn't have a bot flag yet ?
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2017-04-22 15:08:22
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<Alphos>
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test runs are mandatory to get the flag, and i had enough trouble finding a suitable one, it seems absurd to block a bot during a (long-standing) pending bot flag request, two days after its last edit, when everything went fine
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2017-04-22 15:14:21
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<Alphos>
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planemad : ping https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Alphos#User:RollBot -_-"
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2017-04-22 15:44:23
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<multichill>
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Alphos: You started https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RollBot in jan 2016 and all of a sudden you do 500+ edits without approval. Yes, that gets you bot blocked
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2017-04-22 15:47:07
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<Alphos>
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yet i explained i had issue finding a testbed and battling the mother of all neurological conditions :/
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2017-04-22 15:47:52
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<Alphos>
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and there has been edits in that page since jan 2016
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2017-04-22 15:49:04
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<multichill>
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Both very unfortunate, but both your problems to solve. That doesn't give you a free card to let loose an unapproved bot that for 100's if not 1000's of edits
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2017-04-22 15:49:26
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<Alphos>
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so what should i have picked as a testbed ?
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2017-04-22 15:50:23
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<Alphos>
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there aren't many cases where 1) people need a big enough batch of reverts that they need a bot 2) people actually think of rollbot
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2017-04-22 15:51:45
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<multichill>
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Alphos: Your wasting your energy here. Just update https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RollBot with your progress so it can be reviewed
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2017-04-22 15:52:19
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<multichill>
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And if you promise not to do any more tested before requested or approved at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/RollBot , I'll unblock it now
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2017-04-22 15:56:03
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<Alphos>
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well, it's not like there's all that many requests for what my bot does, as i said. and i had to finish the edits it couldn't perform, which took me time, discovered a million and a half missing precisions for geolocations, which i had to investigate, ended up having a fit, and yeah, i did forget to publish a message that it was a testbed
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2017-04-22 15:56:48
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<Alphos>
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i don't really need to promise not to kill a black swan if there's no black swan in sight, right ? :/
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2017-04-22 16:45:11
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<WikidataFacts>
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is there a tool for creating a small number of similar Wikidata items?
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2017-04-22 16:47:24
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<Alphos>
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ask Dereckson, he has one for first names and last names
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2017-04-22 16:51:37
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<Dereckson>
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there is perhaps https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php
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2017-04-22 16:51:47
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<Dereckson>
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Harmonia uses that a lot
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2017-04-22 16:53:44
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<WikidataFacts>
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Dereckson: thanks, I’ll see if that can do what I need
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2017-04-22 17:02:52
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<Alphos>
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i'll try and publish sparquickl 4 tomorrow, it's about languages ^^
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2017-04-22 17:04:44
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<Alphos>
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bbl
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2017-04-22 17:16:44
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<WikidataFacts>
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hm, what will quickstatements do if I add two source pairs – two references, or one reference with two “statements”?
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2017-04-22 17:17:48
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<WikidataFacts>
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I guess I’ll find out…
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2017-04-22 17:26:25
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<WikidataFacts>
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(it adds two references)
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2017-04-22 19:26:13
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<multichill>
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SMalyshev: Where in the query interface can I copy the url in a format to paste in Wikitext? I used to just copy it from the url bar in Firefox, but looks like that behaviour changed and it's no longer urlencoded.
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2017-04-22 19:27:32
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<WikidataFacts>
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multichill: I usually get the tiny URL and then copy the url that redirects to – it’s ugly, but it works :/
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2017-04-22 19:28:26
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<multichill>
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That stopped working too after the recent update
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2017-04-22 19:28:43
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<multichill>
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53.0
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2017-04-22 19:28:48
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<WikidataFacts>
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I use this function to copy it: https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/home/blob/master/.bashrc.d/copy-location
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2017-04-22 19:29:16
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<WikidataFacts>
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(I have no idea if you’re familiar with the command line, so I don’t know if this is helpful… sorry if it isn’t)
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2017-04-22 19:30:08
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<multichill>
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If you can attach a keyboard to it, I can probably work with it WikidataFacts ;-) Thanks
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2017-04-22 19:30:18
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<WikidataFacts>
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okay then :D
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2017-04-22 19:33:52
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<WikidataFacts>
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perhaps that was a stupid thing to say, I just don’t know enough people/nicknames yet :D
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2017-04-22 19:35:58
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<multichill>
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Looking at it, it's still encodedish, just the spaces are not %20
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2017-04-22 19:36:05
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<multichill>
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That breaks the wikitext
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2017-04-22 19:37:16
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<WikidataFacts>
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weird
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2017-04-22 19:37:29
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<WikidataFacts>
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| sed 's/ /%20/g', I guess ?
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2017-04-22 19:38:32
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<SMalyshev>
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multichill: worked for me so far, maybe chrome changes something :\ I'll check on Monday
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2017-04-22 19:40:23
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<multichill>
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SMalyshev: Looks like it shipped 3 days ago
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2017-04-22 19:40:58
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<SMalyshev>
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may be related to that homophones problem fix they rolled out recently...
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2017-04-22 19:54:28
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<multichill>
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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Topic:Tp6l9aae8e3nsbl1 <- is it weird of me to expect from a property creator to actually do the steps on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_creators#Steps_when_creating_properties ? :P
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2017-04-22 22:41:39
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<seutail>
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hi, is there any admin around?
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2017-04-22 22:41:49
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<seutail>
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it's not an urgent issue, but i'd love to get it fixed if it's possible
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