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2019-05-22 12:00:24
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<Baylee>
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ey, anyone mind deleting a page on beta real quick?
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2019-05-22 12:01:36
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<Krenair>
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ok
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2019-05-22 12:01:46
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<Krenair>
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any particular page or should I just pick one?
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2019-05-22 12:02:01
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<Baylee>
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https://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/User:TerraCodes
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2019-05-22 12:02:39
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<Krenair>
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poof
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2019-05-22 12:03:27
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<Baylee>
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thanks
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2019-05-22 14:00:24
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @alaa_wmde & @nuria - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-05-22 14:50:22
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @alaa_wmde & @nuria - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-05-22 15:02:05
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<apergos>
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*ding*
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2019-05-22 15:02:09
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<alaa_wmde>
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hey!
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2019-05-22 15:02:18
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<alaa_wmde>
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*dong*
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2019-05-22 15:02:29
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<apergos>
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...the witch is dead?
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2019-05-22 15:03:09
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<alaa_wmde>
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lol
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2019-05-22 15:03:29
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<tgr>
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o/
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2019-05-22 15:03:30
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<alaa_wmde>
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can be bg music why not
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2019-05-22 15:03:44
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<alaa_wmde>
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\o tgr
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2019-05-22 15:08:07
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<apergos>
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while I wait for someone to show up with real questions, here's one: does the rewrite of parsoid in php mean that parsoid will be a mw extension
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2019-05-22 15:08:20
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<apergos>
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or will it remain a service somehow? what's the architecture going to be?
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2019-05-22 15:09:24
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<tgr>
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not quite an extension but yes, it will be invoked in-process
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2019-05-22 15:09:34
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<tgr>
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not immediately though
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2019-05-22 15:10:23
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<apergos>
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does 'not quite an extension' mean it will move into core?
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2019-05-22 15:10:32
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<alaa_wmde>
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how was it written previously?
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2019-05-22 15:10:57
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<alaa_wmde>
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is it this one https://github.com/wikimedia/parsoid?
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2019-05-22 15:11:07
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<tgr>
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mostly a composer library, probably
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2019-05-22 15:11:22
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<apergos>
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nodejs
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2019-05-22 15:11:50
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<tgr>
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previously it was a standalone node.js service with RESTBase caching, yeah
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2019-05-22 15:13:32
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<apergos>
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yes that's the repo
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2019-05-22 15:14:02
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<apergos>
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I understand the back end won't change (at least for now), just asking about the service piece
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2019-05-22 15:14:03
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<apergos>
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thanks
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2019-05-22 15:16:36
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<tgr>
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first switch is to an 1:1 port to PHP, which can be accessed via the MediaWiki REST API
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2019-05-22 15:16:49
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<tgr>
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so it's a drop-in replacement for the current service
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2019-05-22 15:17:28
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<tgr>
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longer term it will replace the PHP parser, which means being called in-process and in real time
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2019-05-22 15:18:07
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<apergos>
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oh wow, replacing the existing parser, that's huge
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2019-05-22 15:19:20
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<alaa_wmde>
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interesting.. I learned two new things already in this session :D
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2019-05-22 15:19:22
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<apergos>
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is there a draft roadmap around for folks who want to follow along?
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2019-05-22 15:21:46
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<alaa_wmde>
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this looks like a starting point https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Notes/Moving_Parsoid_Into_Core/Porting
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2019-05-22 15:23:31
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<apergos>
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great find, thanks!
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2019-05-22 15:24:15
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<alaa_wmde>
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theres lso this board now https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/3594/
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2019-05-22 15:24:51
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Notes/Moving_Parsoid_Into_Core/Porting#Make_use_of_types, it looks like Parsoid-in-MW definitely won’t happen before the PHP7.2 migration is done
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2019-05-22 15:25:08
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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though I guess PHP-Parsoid-as-service isn’t bound by that
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2019-05-22 15:25:15
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<apergos>
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it shouldn't be
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2019-05-22 15:25:26
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<apergos>
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and php7.2 migration is going quite well
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2019-05-22 15:25:52
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<alaa_wmde>
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amused
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2019-05-22 15:26:22
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<alaa_wmde>
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or rather happy to hear that :)
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2019-05-22 15:26:35
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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yay
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2019-05-22 15:26:42
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<apergos>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219150 for progress
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2019-05-22 15:27:02
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<apergos>
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(I gotta run now, hope many other questions are asked and answered! will do the backread later)
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2019-05-22 15:31:42
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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oh, 10% already went live? nice
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2019-05-22 15:32:34
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<pavithraes>
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While installing an extension, I get 'extension.json does not exist!' on creating a symbolic link but works fine if I download directly into the extensions/ dir. Why is this happening?
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2019-05-22 15:37:12
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<alaa_wmde>
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checking
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2019-05-22 15:39:26
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<tgr>
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probably web server security settings?
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2019-05-22 15:44:27
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<alaa_wmde>
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I can reproduce it simply by symlinking somewhere outside the extensions follder
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2019-05-22 15:46:02
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<alaa_wmde>
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symlinking to another folder within extensions folder itself works fine .. so it is more likely now to be related to server configs as tgr
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2019-05-22 15:46:13
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<alaa_wmde>
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... suggested
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2019-05-22 15:47:19
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<tgr>
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MediaWiki does a plain file_exists
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2019-05-22 15:49:27
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<tgr>
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you might have Apache with FollowSymlinks disabled, you might have open_basedir in PHP config, you migh be using some extra hardening like SELinux, etc
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2019-05-22 15:51:45
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<alaa_wmde>
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pavithraes: are u using apache or nginx? how does the configuration look like?
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2019-05-22 16:05:33
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<alaa_wmde>
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so yeah file_exists is used internally which means symbolic links for extension folders cannot be used for now
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2019-05-22 16:08:15
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<pavithraes>
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alaa_wmde:
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2019-05-22 16:08:50
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<pavithraes>
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alaa_wmde: I'm using Apache.
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2019-05-22 16:10:40
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<pavithraes>
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alaa_wmde: Makes sense. I'll look into it.
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2019-05-22 16:13:46
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<alaa_wmde>
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pavithraes: I tried even with mount binding on filesystem but that caused same issue .. I believe we'll need probably to change media wiki to account for symlinks in order to make this work
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2019-05-22 16:22:58
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<pavithraes>
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FollowSymLinks is enabled
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2019-05-22 16:34:10
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<RhinosF1>
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https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2019-May/092099.html - Finally got IRCCloud working
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2019-05-22 16:34:43
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<RhinosF1>
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What's on Group 1?
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2019-05-22 16:34:56
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<RhinosF1>
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If you don't know - train reverted
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2019-05-22 16:36:03
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<James_F>
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RhinosF1: Roughly, all wikis that aren't Wikipedias and aren't a test wiki.
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2019-05-22 16:37:54
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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plus a handful of Wikipedias, apparently: https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/group1-wikipedia.dblist
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2019-05-22 16:40:47
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<James_F>
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Yup, "roughly". :-)
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2019-05-22 16:41:28
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<James_F>
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E.g. group0 includes MediaWiki.org, locked wikis, officewiki, and a couple of others.
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2019-05-22 18:18:52
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<apergos>
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https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/One_week list of which wikis are in which group, RhinosF1
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2019-05-22 18:20:44
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<RhinosF1>
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apergos, Thanks, That's the nicest displayed of the few I've seen
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2019-05-22 18:20:51
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<apergos>
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yw :-)
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2019-05-22 18:22:26
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<RhinosF1>
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apergos, Is this best task to track deployment on? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224116
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2019-05-22 18:22:44
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<James_F>
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RhinosF1: I'm deploying now.
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2019-05-22 18:23:40
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<RhinosF1>
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James_F, Ah, Cool. Good luck! Also why didn't stashbot give the task title for that.
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2019-05-22 18:24:06
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<James_F>
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No recent comments from stashbot in this channel; maybe it's broken?
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2019-05-22 18:24:37
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<apergos>
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/ this is where you can keep track of what's actually running
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2019-05-22 18:26:54
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<RhinosF1>
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Ah that will have to be the next task, Fixing stashbot, A good day for the Devs.
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2019-05-22 18:28:07
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<paladox>
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RhinosF1 it's because the bot only likes T224116 not https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224116
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2019-05-22 18:28:08
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<stashbot>
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T224116: operand type was used: expects array(s) or collection(s) in /srv/mediawiki/wmf-config/flaggedrevs.php on line 182 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224116
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2019-05-22 18:28:18
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<James_F>
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Oh, right.
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2019-05-22 18:31:03
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<RhinosF1>
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Paladox, or maybe restarting my brain is the next task
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2019-05-22 18:31:09
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<paladox>
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heh
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2019-05-22 18:32:01
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<RhinosF1>
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Paladox, :) - try !RhinosF1 update
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2019-05-22 18:32:17
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<RhinosF1>
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Then !RhinosF1 restarting
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2019-05-22 18:32:23
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<RhinosF1>
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*restart
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2019-05-22 19:12:33
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<Krinkle>
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thedj: Is this still something we want to do? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132946
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2019-05-22 19:15:40
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<James_F>
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Krinkle: Is there a way TMH can splice the "transcodes" object into the imageinfo response?
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2019-05-22 20:10:34
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<Krinkle>
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James_F: maybe, not sure if that is extendable.
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2019-05-22 20:11:43
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<James_F>
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I think the WBMI people were looking at splicing in their captions into files.
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2019-05-22 20:11:47
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<James_F>
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hunts for tasks.
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2019-05-22 20:12:06
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<James_F>
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Oh, right, it's marked as blocked by T132947.
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2019-05-22 20:12:12
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<stashbot>
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T132947: Make it possible for extensions to add additional info to the fileinfo/imageinfo response. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132947
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