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2019-05-29 12:22:11 <Krenair> NFS problems are known
2019-05-29 14:00:20 <wm-bot> Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @awight & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
2019-05-29 14:50:19 <wm-bot> Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @awight & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
2019-05-29 15:04:56 <tgr_> Hi all, welcome to the technical advice meeting! feel free to ask us about anything
2019-05-29 15:05:53 <awight> :) hi tgr_, nice to see you here.
2019-05-29 15:06:06 <tgr_> you can also ask in Hungarian / magyarul is tudtok kérdezni
2019-05-29 15:06:33 <awight> y en español si es más facil...
2019-05-29 15:06:50 <tgr_> o/ awight , likewise :)
2019-05-29 15:17:31 <awight> I'm working on some fun patches for Extension:Translate "extension registration", FWIW.
2019-05-29 15:19:42 <Lucas_WMDE> nice
2019-05-29 15:19:47 <Lucas_WMDE> I thought that one was converted recently? or is it not done yet?
2019-05-29 15:23:36 <awight> It's been happening in a few phases, and this last one was to split the last big patch into bite-sized pieces.
2019-05-29 15:23:52 <awight> Pretty much always a good idea, when it's possible :-)
2019-05-29 15:24:12 <Lucas_WMDE> that sounds great
2019-05-29 15:24:32 <Lucas_WMDE> I stole the “do it in bits“ idea from Translate for Wikibase ^^
2019-05-29 15:24:46 <Lucas_WMDE> (if anyone wants to merge some of the patches in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223214, wink wink nudge nudge)
2019-05-29 15:24:59 <awight> Yes! I forget who mentioned it, but having the "extension-wip.json" was key.
2019-05-29 15:26:11 <Reedy> extension-notbloodyfinished.json
2019-05-29 15:26:58 <Lucas_WMDE> extension-lookwellgetaroundtoiteventually.json
2019-05-29 15:27:51 <awight> Just looked it up ^, nikerabbit started that approach, at least for Extension:Translate.
2019-05-29 15:29:23 <Zppix> extension-maybe.json
2019-05-29 15:31:02 <awight> Come to think of it, maybe extension registration could support this transparently, by being softer about whatever conditional switching happens when extension.json is present... Hindsight, I guess.
2019-05-29 15:36:47 <RhinosF1> awight, tgr: I've been trying to add the twinkle unlink gadget to my wiki (https://quirc.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) - And I don't see any unlink options on any pages. Thoughts? Pinging McJill, as maintainer
2019-05-29 15:37:39 <awight> RhinosF1: Hi! Do you have https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets installed?
2019-05-29 15:37:55 <RhinosF1> awight: I do
2019-05-29 15:38:13 <tgr_> is it an opt-in gadget?
2019-05-29 15:38:42 <RhinosF1> tgr_, I've turned it on
2019-05-29 15:39:30 <awight> I see you have it listed here, https://quirc.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
2019-05-29 15:39:35 <McJill> Not sure this is on-topic, RhinosF1, but for starters I’d check your console for errors. You still have twinkle.js calling arv, warn, and block, which don’t exist
2019-05-29 15:39:47 <tgr_> I was more wondering how I can turn it on
2019-05-29 15:39:58 <RhinosF1> McJill, ah, tgr - In settings
2019-05-29 15:41:01 <RhinosF1> McJill, Which lines do I need changing?
2019-05-29 15:41:03 <awight> Not sure it's related, but this documentation says it's only available to "extended unconfirmed" users, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc#Unlink
2019-05-29 15:41:24 <RhinosF1> tgr, Ah, We don't even have 30/500
2019-05-29 15:41:26 <tgr_> can't see it there, but yeah, generic debugging advice is check the error console + check that the code is loaded properly
2019-05-29 15:41:31 <awight> *extended confirmed
2019-05-29 15:42:21 <McJill> RhinosF1: Yes, that’s basically an en.wiki only thing
2019-05-29 15:42:41 <McJill> You should remove the lines that say Twinkle.warn(), Twinkle.arv(), and Twinkle.block()
2019-05-29 15:42:51 <RhinosF1> McJill, What needs changing then to disable that check?
2019-05-29 15:43:08 <RhinosF1> Console https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LhMXlgGl/Screenshot%202019-05-29%20at%2016.42.31.png
2019-05-29 15:44:07 <tgr_> that seems like a syntax error in the gadget code (or copypaste error maybe)
2019-05-29 15:46:29 <RhinosF1> McJill, Thoughts on the console error?
2019-05-29 15:46:33 <McJill> RhinosF1: You forgot to remove a } in twinkle.js, after Twinkle.unlink()
2019-05-29 15:47:06 <McJill> And just remove the bit in the beginning about extendedconfirmed from twinkleunlink.js
2019-05-29 15:47:27 <McJill> *bit about extendedconfirmed and sysop
2019-05-29 15:51:41 <RhinosF1> McJill, Not made it much better: https://quirc.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
2019-05-29 15:52:04 <RhinosF1> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/93kQdYV6/Screenshot%202019-05-29%20at%2016.51.26.png
2019-05-29 15:53:18 <tgr_> you might want to install the CodeEditor extension to get these errors while editing the JS file, instead of after saving and testing
2019-05-29 15:53:59 <RhinosF1> Zppix: ^^
2019-05-29 15:54:06 <RhinosF1> Can you look at that?
2019-05-29 15:55:31 <RhinosF1> Zppix: Found code editor
2019-05-29 15:56:48 <McJill> RhinosF1: I said to remove the } in Twinkle.js, not move it above Twinkle.unlink()
2019-05-29 15:58:15 <McJill> As for twinkleunlink.js, remove the trailing || in that line
2019-05-29 15:58:16 <McJill> So it should read if( mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') < 0 || mw.config.get('wgPageName') === 'Wikipedia:Sandbox' ) {
2019-05-29 16:06:26 <awight> Looks like you're on the right path!
2019-05-29 16:07:21 <RhinosF1> McJill: Got to go AFK - Still errors when I looked. Can you PM me some working code for me to upload?
2019-05-29 16:09:36 <McJill> You left the ) { on the line all by itself (twinkleunlink.js) when adding it to the prior line
2019-05-29 16:09:51 <awight> Possible followups: the Twinkle gadget could include conditions to switch logic when dependencies are available.
2019-05-29 16:10:56 <McJill> awight: It’s actually on my long-term todo list to allow folks to turn off modules they don’t want
2019-05-29 16:11:05 <awight> Nice!
2019-05-29 16:12:55 <RhinosF1> McJill: Fixed that but no TW tab showing
2019-05-29 16:15:11 <McJill> prob an issue in your gadget def
2019-05-29 16:18:37 <McJill> Yeah, I think just copy from enwiki, you’re not loading the css or pagestyles
2019-05-29 16:18:59 <RhinosF1> McJill, What line should I put on then?
2019-05-29 16:19:21 <McJill> > copy from enwiki
2019-05-29 16:20:17 <McJill> Try this
2019-05-29 16:20:19 <McJill> Twinkle[ResourceLoader|dependencies=mediawiki.user,mediawiki.util,mediawiki.notify,mediawiki.RegExp,jquery.ui.dialog,jquery.tipsy,moment|rights=autoconfirmed|type=general|peers=Twinkle-pagestyles]|morebits.js|morebits.css|Twinkle.js|twinkleunlink.js|twinkleconfig.js|Twinkle.css
2019-05-29 16:20:19 <McJill> * Twinkle-pagestyles[hidden|skins=vector]|Twinkle-pagestyles.css
2019-05-29 16:21:35 <McJill> (you should also install the pagestyles.css and Twinkle.css files, since you didn’t do that)
2019-05-29 16:27:24 <RhinosF1> McJill: Had twinkle.css but added pagestyles. Going afk now and no tab
2019-05-29 17:07:54 <brion> Anybody with the mailing list master password around, or can help me with a manual login to reset a list admin pass? Mike Godwin's trying to migrate an old list off of lists.wikimedia.org and all the admin passwords got reset some while ago, so he's locked out of it.
2019-05-29 17:08:18 <brion> I've got the docs for resetting it manually on the server but I don't have a login on that machine I think. ;)
2019-05-29 18:47:42 <McJill> I think there’s an issue in 1.34-wmf.7 on whatlinkshere (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224616); I’m not great with what tags/projects should be used for an ongoing deployment, am I missing something obvious/helpful beyond regression and the version?
2019-05-29 18:51:18 <McJill> (not just wlh)
2019-05-29 18:57:37 <MatmaRex> McJill: if you set the "Priority" to "Unbreak now", someone will definitely have a look at it (but please don't overuse that for non-critical things)
2019-05-29 18:57:50 <MatmaRex> McJill: i actually recognize this issue, there's another bug report about it
2019-05-29 18:58:10 <MatmaRex> i read it this morning but didn't test, i didn't realize it was this annoying
2019-05-29 18:58:25 <McJill> Held off since I didn’t think it was that critical (although I imagine folks will make a lot of noise), but a duplicate is even better!
2019-05-29 19:06:34 <McJill> Thanks
2019-05-29 21:21:04 <Krinkle> bstorm_: Is wikitech wiki meant to be readable through quarry/ tools sql? Or is this a known omission?
2019-05-29 21:21:26 <Krinkle> was just thinking of building something around incident reports in toolforge, but couldn't connect, I guess we don't have it on the replica
2019-05-29 21:22:51 <bstorm_> I can check later. I ducked out early today because I've been working since sunrise due to an outage.
2019-05-29 21:23:05 <bstorm_> I'm afk at the moment
2019-05-29 21:23:25 <bstorm_> I think it may have an odd name but be there?
2019-05-29 21:24:09 <bawolff> I dont think its on analytics slaves either
2019-05-29 21:24:30 <bawolff> Probably accidental artifact of how weird it is
2019-05-29 22:23:34 <bstorm_> Ah, that's right. Krinkle it's called labswiki and it isn't there because it's not on the same database servers or something. It's on a misc server instead.
2019-05-29 22:24:10 <bstorm_> So yeah, artifact of how weird it is :)
2019-05-29 22:35:37 <Krinkle> thanks!

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