2019-05-29 12:22:11
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<Krenair>
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NFS problems are known
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2019-05-29 14:00:20
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @awight & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-05-29 14:50:19
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @awight & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-05-29 15:04:56
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<tgr_>
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Hi all, welcome to the technical advice meeting! feel free to ask us about anything
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2019-05-29 15:05:53
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<awight>
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:) hi tgr_, nice to see you here.
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2019-05-29 15:06:06
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<tgr_>
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you can also ask in Hungarian / magyarul is tudtok kérdezni
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2019-05-29 15:06:33
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<awight>
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y en español si es más facil...
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2019-05-29 15:06:50
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<tgr_>
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o/ awight , likewise :)
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2019-05-29 15:17:31
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<awight>
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I'm working on some fun patches for Extension:Translate "extension registration", FWIW.
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2019-05-29 15:19:42
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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nice
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2019-05-29 15:19:47
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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I thought that one was converted recently? or is it not done yet?
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2019-05-29 15:23:36
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<awight>
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It's been happening in a few phases, and this last one was to split the last big patch into bite-sized pieces.
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2019-05-29 15:23:52
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<awight>
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Pretty much always a good idea, when it's possible :-)
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2019-05-29 15:24:12
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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that sounds great
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2019-05-29 15:24:32
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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I stole the “do it in bits“ idea from Translate for Wikibase ^^
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2019-05-29 15:24:46
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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(if anyone wants to merge some of the patches in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223214, wink wink nudge nudge)
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2019-05-29 15:24:59
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<awight>
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Yes! I forget who mentioned it, but having the "extension-wip.json" was key.
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2019-05-29 15:26:11
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<Reedy>
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extension-notbloodyfinished.json
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2019-05-29 15:26:58
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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extension-lookwellgetaroundtoiteventually.json
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2019-05-29 15:27:51
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<awight>
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Just looked it up ^, nikerabbit started that approach, at least for Extension:Translate.
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2019-05-29 15:29:23
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<Zppix>
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extension-maybe.json
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2019-05-29 15:31:02
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<awight>
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Come to think of it, maybe extension registration could support this transparently, by being softer about whatever conditional switching happens when extension.json is present... Hindsight, I guess.
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2019-05-29 15:36:47
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<RhinosF1>
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awight, tgr: I've been trying to add the twinkle unlink gadget to my wiki (https://quirc.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) - And I don't see any unlink options on any pages. Thoughts? Pinging McJill, as maintainer
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2019-05-29 15:37:39
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<awight>
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RhinosF1: Hi! Do you have https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets installed?
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2019-05-29 15:37:55
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<RhinosF1>
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awight: I do
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2019-05-29 15:38:13
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<tgr_>
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is it an opt-in gadget?
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2019-05-29 15:38:42
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<RhinosF1>
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tgr_, I've turned it on
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2019-05-29 15:39:30
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<awight>
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I see you have it listed here, https://quirc.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
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2019-05-29 15:39:35
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<McJill>
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Not sure this is on-topic, RhinosF1, but for starters I’d check your console for errors. You still have twinkle.js calling arv, warn, and block, which don’t exist
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2019-05-29 15:39:47
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<tgr_>
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I was more wondering how I can turn it on
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2019-05-29 15:39:58
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill, ah, tgr - In settings
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2019-05-29 15:41:01
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill, Which lines do I need changing?
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2019-05-29 15:41:03
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<awight>
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Not sure it's related, but this documentation says it's only available to "extended unconfirmed" users, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc#Unlink
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2019-05-29 15:41:24
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<RhinosF1>
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tgr, Ah, We don't even have 30/500
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2019-05-29 15:41:26
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<tgr_>
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can't see it there, but yeah, generic debugging advice is check the error console + check that the code is loaded properly
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2019-05-29 15:41:31
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<awight>
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*extended confirmed
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2019-05-29 15:42:21
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<McJill>
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RhinosF1: Yes, that’s basically an en.wiki only thing
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2019-05-29 15:42:41
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<McJill>
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You should remove the lines that say Twinkle.warn(), Twinkle.arv(), and Twinkle.block()
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2019-05-29 15:42:51
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill, What needs changing then to disable that check?
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2019-05-29 15:43:08
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<RhinosF1>
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Console https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LhMXlgGl/Screenshot%202019-05-29%20at%2016.42.31.png
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2019-05-29 15:44:07
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<tgr_>
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that seems like a syntax error in the gadget code (or copypaste error maybe)
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2019-05-29 15:46:29
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill, Thoughts on the console error?
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2019-05-29 15:46:33
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<McJill>
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RhinosF1: You forgot to remove a } in twinkle.js, after Twinkle.unlink()
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2019-05-29 15:47:06
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<McJill>
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And just remove the bit in the beginning about extendedconfirmed from twinkleunlink.js
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2019-05-29 15:47:27
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<McJill>
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*bit about extendedconfirmed and sysop
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2019-05-29 15:51:41
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill, Not made it much better: https://quirc.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
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2019-05-29 15:52:04
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<RhinosF1>
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https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/93kQdYV6/Screenshot%202019-05-29%20at%2016.51.26.png
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2019-05-29 15:53:18
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<tgr_>
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you might want to install the CodeEditor extension to get these errors while editing the JS file, instead of after saving and testing
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2019-05-29 15:53:59
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<RhinosF1>
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Zppix: ^^
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2019-05-29 15:54:06
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<RhinosF1>
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Can you look at that?
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2019-05-29 15:55:31
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<RhinosF1>
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Zppix: Found code editor
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2019-05-29 15:56:48
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<McJill>
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RhinosF1: I said to remove the } in Twinkle.js, not move it above Twinkle.unlink()
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2019-05-29 15:58:15
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<McJill>
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As for twinkleunlink.js, remove the trailing || in that line
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2019-05-29 15:58:16
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<McJill>
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So it should read if( mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') < 0 || mw.config.get('wgPageName') === 'Wikipedia:Sandbox' ) {
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2019-05-29 16:06:26
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<awight>
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Looks like you're on the right path!
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2019-05-29 16:07:21
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill: Got to go AFK - Still errors when I looked. Can you PM me some working code for me to upload?
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2019-05-29 16:09:36
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<McJill>
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You left the ) { on the line all by itself (twinkleunlink.js) when adding it to the prior line
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2019-05-29 16:09:51
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<awight>
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Possible followups: the Twinkle gadget could include conditions to switch logic when dependencies are available.
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2019-05-29 16:10:56
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<McJill>
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awight: It’s actually on my long-term todo list to allow folks to turn off modules they don’t want
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2019-05-29 16:11:05
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<awight>
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Nice!
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2019-05-29 16:12:55
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill: Fixed that but no TW tab showing
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2019-05-29 16:15:11
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<McJill>
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prob an issue in your gadget def
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2019-05-29 16:18:37
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<McJill>
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Yeah, I think just copy from enwiki, you’re not loading the css or pagestyles
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2019-05-29 16:18:59
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill, What line should I put on then?
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2019-05-29 16:19:21
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<McJill>
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> copy from enwiki
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2019-05-29 16:20:17
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<McJill>
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Try this
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2019-05-29 16:20:19
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<McJill>
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Twinkle[ResourceLoader|dependencies=mediawiki.user,mediawiki.util,mediawiki.notify,mediawiki.RegExp,jquery.ui.dialog,jquery.tipsy,moment|rights=autoconfirmed|type=general|peers=Twinkle-pagestyles]|morebits.js|morebits.css|Twinkle.js|twinkleunlink.js|twinkleconfig.js|Twinkle.css
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2019-05-29 16:20:19
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<McJill>
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* Twinkle-pagestyles[hidden|skins=vector]|Twinkle-pagestyles.css
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2019-05-29 16:21:35
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<McJill>
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(you should also install the pagestyles.css and Twinkle.css files, since you didn’t do that)
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2019-05-29 16:27:24
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<RhinosF1>
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McJill: Had twinkle.css but added pagestyles. Going afk now and no tab
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2019-05-29 17:07:54
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<brion>
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Anybody with the mailing list master password around, or can help me with a manual login to reset a list admin pass? Mike Godwin's trying to migrate an old list off of lists.wikimedia.org and all the admin passwords got reset some while ago, so he's locked out of it.
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2019-05-29 17:08:18
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<brion>
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I've got the docs for resetting it manually on the server but I don't have a login on that machine I think. ;)
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2019-05-29 18:47:42
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<McJill>
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I think there’s an issue in 1.34-wmf.7 on whatlinkshere (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224616); I’m not great with what tags/projects should be used for an ongoing deployment, am I missing something obvious/helpful beyond regression and the version?
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2019-05-29 18:51:18
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<McJill>
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(not just wlh)
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2019-05-29 18:57:37
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<MatmaRex>
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McJill: if you set the "Priority" to "Unbreak now", someone will definitely have a look at it (but please don't overuse that for non-critical things)
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2019-05-29 18:57:50
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<MatmaRex>
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McJill: i actually recognize this issue, there's another bug report about it
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2019-05-29 18:58:10
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<MatmaRex>
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i read it this morning but didn't test, i didn't realize it was this annoying
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2019-05-29 18:58:25
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<McJill>
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Held off since I didn’t think it was that critical (although I imagine folks will make a lot of noise), but a duplicate is even better!
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2019-05-29 19:06:34
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<McJill>
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Thanks
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2019-05-29 21:21:04
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<Krinkle>
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bstorm_: Is wikitech wiki meant to be readable through quarry/ tools sql? Or is this a known omission?
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2019-05-29 21:21:26
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<Krinkle>
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was just thinking of building something around incident reports in toolforge, but couldn't connect, I guess we don't have it on the replica
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2019-05-29 21:22:51
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<bstorm_>
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I can check later. I ducked out early today because I've been working since sunrise due to an outage.
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2019-05-29 21:23:05
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<bstorm_>
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I'm afk at the moment
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2019-05-29 21:23:25
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<bstorm_>
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I think it may have an odd name but be there?
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2019-05-29 21:24:09
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<bawolff>
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I dont think its on analytics slaves either
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2019-05-29 21:24:30
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<bawolff>
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Probably accidental artifact of how weird it is
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2019-05-29 22:23:34
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<bstorm_>
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Ah, that's right. Krinkle it's called labswiki and it isn't there because it's not on the same database servers or something. It's on a misc server instead.
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2019-05-29 22:24:10
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<bstorm_>
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So yeah, artifact of how weird it is :)
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2019-05-29 22:35:37
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<Krinkle>
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thanks!
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