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2018-07-11 13:28:35
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<Niridya>
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Do you have news about this task : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191452 ?
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2018-07-11 13:33:45
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<Reedy>
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It can probably go ahead now
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2018-07-11 13:45:36
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<Niridya>
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You mean that TemplateStyles will be deployed in a short time ?
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2018-07-11 13:46:19
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<Reedy>
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It can be, not sure if it will
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2018-07-11 13:46:27
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<Reedy>
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Needs someone to get it into swat etc
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2018-07-11 13:46:44
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<Niridya>
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What is Swat ?
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2018-07-11 14:04:37
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<Stryn>
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Niridya: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SWAT_deploys
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2018-07-11 14:15:37
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<Niridya>
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So, Swat is a team of MediaWiki developers and we can contact them to submit idead or bug ?
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2018-07-11 14:23:36
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<Deskana>
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Niridya: Posting a polite question on the task is normally the best way to get answers about a task.
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2018-07-11 14:24:52
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<Niridya>
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Deskana you don't think my question was polite ? (it's possiby because I rarely speak in english) O:3 O:3
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2018-07-11 14:25:21
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<Deskana>
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Niridya: Oh, no, not at all! Your question was polite. :-)
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2018-07-11 14:25:57
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<Niridya>
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Oh, you sais a question "on the task", you mean on Phabricator ?
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2018-07-11 14:26:40
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @amir1 - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2018-07-11 14:27:19
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<Niridya>
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Oh ! I will be able to ask my questions to the developers in IRC meeting ;)
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2018-07-11 14:27:37
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<addshore>
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=]
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2018-07-11 14:27:45
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<Niridya>
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;)
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2018-07-11 15:01:04
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<addshore>
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Hi hi Amir1
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2018-07-11 15:01:11
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<addshore>
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It's time!
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2018-07-11 15:01:33
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<Amir1>
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Hello, Welcome to Technical advice IRC meeting, me and addshore are your host today and wish you a pleasant flight
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2018-07-11 15:01:42
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<addshore>
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Wheee
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2018-07-11 15:02:45
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<DanielK_WMDE_>
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flight? can i have some tomatoe juice, then?
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2018-07-11 15:03:19
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<Niridya>
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Hi ! Do you have news about this task : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191452 ?
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2018-07-11 15:03:29
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<addshore>
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DanielK_WMDE_: sorry, strictly a no totamoe juice flight, but we do have tomato juice!
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2018-07-11 15:03:33
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<Amir1>
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DanielK_WMDE_: 15 eurors, If you are member of "I broke Wikipedia" club, you get discount
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2018-07-11 15:03:50
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: checking
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2018-07-11 15:04:17
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<DanielK_WMDE_>
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:P
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2018-07-11 15:04:57
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<addshore>
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Niridya: looking at the ticket it looks like it is still blocked
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2018-07-11 15:05:03
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<Niridya>
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You made a very good job for Global preferences ! That's very useful !
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2018-07-11 15:05:19
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: The Remex is now enabled everywhere. It's unblocked since the last week
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2018-07-11 15:05:20
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<Niridya>
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addshore and do you know why is it blocked ?!
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2018-07-11 15:05:36
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<Amir1>
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addshore: Remex is deployed everywhere now
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2018-07-11 15:05:56
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<Niridya>
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Thank you too for Remex, but the task is about TemplateStyle ;)
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2018-07-11 15:06:10
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<revi>
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not seeking for an advice but thanks (never enough to repeat) to those who made GlobalPreferences possible
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2018-07-11 15:06:25
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<revi>
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you guys saved my hours setting prefs on every wikis
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2018-07-11 15:06:50
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: Deploying TemplateStyles is (was) blocked on deploying a new system for parsing called Remex
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2018-07-11 15:06:59
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<Amir1>
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the blocker is gone now
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2018-07-11 15:07:27
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<Reedy>
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[14:33:19] <Reedy> It can probably go ahead now
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2018-07-11 15:07:27
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<Reedy>
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;)
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2018-07-11 15:07:34
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<Niridya>
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Amir1 Okey, thank you for your answer ! ;)
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2018-07-11 15:07:35
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<Niridya>
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And why is the HTML error pag still called LintErrors, why don't you switch to RemexErrors ?
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2018-07-11 15:08:14
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<Amir1>
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revi: Yeah, It was a great work made by Community Tech including (but not limited to) Niharika, musikanimal, samwilson
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2018-07-11 15:08:36
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<Amir1>
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and several others I can't rememebr
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2018-07-11 15:08:45
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<revi>
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sends love via the network
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2018-07-11 15:09:04
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<legoktm>
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Niridya: LintErrors is more broad than just ones related to the tidy/remex deployment
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2018-07-11 15:09:10
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: The old parser library was called Tidy, The lint errors are more general
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2018-07-11 15:09:33
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<Niridya>
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Okey, and what means "Lint" ?
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2018-07-11 15:09:58
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<Amir1>
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basically only the high-priority ones are related to Tidy->Remex migration
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2018-07-11 15:10:06
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<legoktm>
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Niridya: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lint#Verb
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2018-07-11 15:10:13
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<Reedy>
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https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/lint
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2018-07-11 15:10:48
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<Niridya>
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Oh ! Thank you a lot !
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2018-07-11 15:10:52
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: In Persian, we translated it "hidden syntax issues" which is not very correct but close
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2018-07-11 15:11:20
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<addshore>
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morning legoktm :)
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2018-07-11 15:11:23
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<Niridya>
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I think I never gond to Persian Wikipédia ;( ;(
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2018-07-11 15:11:44
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<legoktm>
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morning addshore :)
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2018-07-11 15:11:52
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<Amir1>
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A very few people did :D
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2018-07-11 15:11:55
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<Niridya>
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I got an idea : it would be very useful to protect descriptions on Flow pages
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2018-07-11 15:12:45
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: There is an ticket already for that: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113902
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2018-07-11 15:13:10
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<Amir1>
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It hopefully will be picked up in foreseeable future
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2018-07-11 15:14:09
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<revi>
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Flow is somewhat messed extension
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2018-07-11 15:14:14
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<revi>
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from admin perspective :P
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2018-07-11 15:19:34
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<Niridya>
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On the front page of Wikipedia https://www.wikipedia.org/ there is a list of Wikipedias by number of articles. But between the number and the word "articles", there are 3 spaces
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2018-07-11 15:19:57
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<Niridya>
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And it is not typographically correct :b :b
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2018-07-11 15:20:26
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<Reedy>
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Numbers are hard
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2018-07-11 15:20:41
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<Reedy>
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Should it be 1,000,000? Should it be 1.000.000? Should it be something else?
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2018-07-11 15:21:19
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<addshore>
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Reedy: wikidata can do all of that for you ;)
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2018-07-11 15:21:28
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<Reedy>
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I don't need it doing for me
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2018-07-11 15:21:33
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<Reedy>
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MW can format numbers
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2018-07-11 15:22:29
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<Niridya>
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My problem is not about numbers : there is "1 000 000+ articles
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2018-07-11 15:26:43
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<addshore>
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Is > are?
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2018-07-11 15:26:56
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: you can bring this issue up to the discovery team who are responsible for maintaining it, there might be some good explanation.
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2018-07-11 15:27:29
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<Niridya>
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Amir1 You have a link to contact them ?
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2018-07-11 15:27:51
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<Amir1>
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The best approach is to make a phabricator ticket and add them
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2018-07-11 15:27:54
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<Nemo_bis>
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The portals should really go back to some reliable technology which knows how to do its thing.
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2018-07-11 15:28:21
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<Niridya7>
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Okey,I willdo this !Thank you ! ;)
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2018-07-11 15:28:56
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<Amir1>
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Niridya: make sure you add Jan Drewniak there, he knows the best about this
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2018-07-11 15:29:11
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<Deskana>
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Nemo_bis: Nice joke!
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2018-07-11 15:30:13
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<Deskana>
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A MediaWiki page containing HTML which was then pulled by an old unmaintained PHP script and dumped into a web page is not "reliable technology".
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2018-07-11 15:31:49
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<addshore>
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Deskana: that's how they work? >.>
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2018-07-11 15:32:11
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<Amir1>
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That was how it used to work
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2018-07-11 15:35:41
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<addshore>
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25 mins left!
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2018-07-11 15:36:11
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<Deskana>
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addshore: Yep: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Www.wikipedia.org_template
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2018-07-11 15:36:29
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<Reedy>
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Why haven't we deleted them?
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2018-07-11 15:37:13
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<Niridya7>
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I created this task : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199337
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2018-07-11 15:46:16
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<revi>
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quick Q: Is it possible to see how many users signed up to the wiki during given timeframe?
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2018-07-11 15:46:35
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<revi>
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(no SUL autocreate)
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2018-07-11 15:46:50
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<Reedy>
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Vaguely
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2018-07-11 15:46:56
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<addshore>
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Vaguely
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2018-07-11 15:47:05
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<Reedy>
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without autocreate is harder as you're going to have to join on the logging table or something I guess
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2018-07-11 15:47:23
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<revi>
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hmm
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2018-07-11 15:47:35
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<revi>
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I think we have some community tool to calculate template transclusion
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2018-07-11 15:47:48
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<addshore>
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Reedy: perhaps the mediwiki_history data set in Hadoop has the answer?
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2018-07-11 15:47:58
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<Reedy>
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God knows
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2018-07-11 15:48:18
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<revi>
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Since kowiki puts welcome template to local signup'ed user's talk page, I think I may be able to get estimate of new registration via template transclusion numbers
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2018-07-11 15:48:29
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<revi>
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not sure if this would be an acceptable strategy?
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2018-07-11 15:49:02
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<Nemo_bis>
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Do you need the data programmatically?
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2018-07-11 15:49:16
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<revi>
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well no, I just need some sort of average
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2018-07-11 15:49:26
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<revi>
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and just once
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2018-07-11 15:49:32
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<Nemo_bis>
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https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/ has some numbers
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2018-07-11 15:49:58
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<Nemo_bis>
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https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/ko.wikipedia.org/contributing/new-registered-users/normal|bar|2-Year~2016060100~2018071100|~total
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2018-07-11 15:50:10
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<revi>
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have no idea if that includes autocreate or not
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2018-07-11 15:50:24
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<Nemo_bis>
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Just click the link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newly_registered_user
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2018-07-11 15:51:44
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<revi>
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wonderful, thanks Nemo_bis
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2018-07-11 15:52:37
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<addshore>
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8 mins remaining!!!
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2018-07-11 15:52:54
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<addshore>
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And then per the rules of the IRC help hour we will cease being useful!
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2018-07-11 15:56:11
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<Amir1>
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grabs the vodka
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2018-07-11 15:58:44
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<addshore>
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2.....
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2018-07-11 15:59:17
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<Niridya7>
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1...
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2018-07-11 16:00:29
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<Amir1>
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Okay, The meeting has officially ended now
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2018-07-11 16:00:45
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<addshore>
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Dun dun dun, or should I say done done done
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2018-07-11 16:00:47
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<legoktm>
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live from cape town next week?
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2018-07-11 16:00:52
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<addshore>
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See y'all next week :)
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2018-07-11 16:00:56
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<Amir1>
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Feel free to reach to us via email later
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2018-07-11 16:01:05
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<addshore>
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@legoktm: yes live from cape town and Berlin next week!
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2018-07-11 16:01:09
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<Amir1>
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not me, so you later in other events :)
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2018-07-11 16:01:18
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<legoktm>
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Amir1: :(
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2018-07-11 16:01:35
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<Amir1>
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Hugs
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2018-07-11 16:02:04
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<addshore>
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legoktm: will you be there?
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2018-07-11 16:02:20
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<legoktm>
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yes!
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2018-07-11 16:02:31
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<legoktm>
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I told you that...yesterday :p
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2018-07-11 16:02:37
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<addshore>
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(:
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2018-07-11 16:06:36
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<Niridya7>
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Thank you Amir1 and addshore!
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2018-07-11 19:08:44
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<stjn>
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I regularly come across "You ("[IP]") are issuing too many requests too quickly." on Phabricator if I open some tasks from search in new tab. Can anyone please say how long does this restriction last?
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2018-07-11 19:09:17
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<apergos>
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try doing one at a time, and it's going to be a little while before people can work out a better approach
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2018-07-11 19:09:24
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<apergos>
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sorry about that
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2018-07-11 19:11:16
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<paladox>
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it should come back after a minute i think/
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2018-07-11 19:11:23
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<stjn>
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I forget that it happens before it happens, unfortunately :-) Thanks.
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