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2018-10-10 05:52:25
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<Wirjadisastra>
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Hi, I've problem in gorwiki. I'm trying to copy https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css&action=edit
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2018-10-10 05:52:34
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<Wirjadisastra>
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to this page https://gor.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Modul:Citation/CS1/styles.css&action=edit&redlink=1
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2018-10-10 05:53:03
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<Wirjadisastra>
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but it shows a message "Error: Lua error at line 1: unexpected symbol near '/'. "
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2018-10-10 05:53:10
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<Wirjadisastra>
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can anyone help?
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2018-10-10 10:07:30
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<revi>
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quick question: Does SBL work well with punycode URL?
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2018-10-10 11:50:09
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<Amir1_>
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does anyone know why my nick is banned in IRC?
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2018-10-10 11:59:46
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<Krenair>
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Amir1, is it that your nick is banned or just that you weren't identified?
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2018-10-10 12:01:01
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<Amir1>
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Krenair: It was banned in several channels like #mediawiki and I couldn't identify myself, basically I left all channels and connected again and it's fixed now
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2018-10-10 12:02:32
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<Krenair>
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weird
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2018-10-10 12:04:04
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<paladox>
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Amir1: are you indentified to NickServ?
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2018-10-10 12:04:11
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<paladox>
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Because those channels have +r set
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2018-10-10 12:04:21
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<paladox>
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Which makes it look like your banned but your not
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2018-10-10 12:09:24
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<Amir1>
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I couldn't identify myself because it was telling me I was banned
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2018-10-10 12:09:53
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<Reedy>
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SASL is a wonderful thing
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2018-10-10 12:10:08
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<paladox>
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SASL?
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2018-10-10 12:10:20
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<Reedy>
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https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
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2018-10-10 12:13:03
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<paladox>
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Ah I see
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2018-10-10 12:17:52
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<paladox>
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Hmm how do you enable it on znc
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2018-10-10 12:18:25
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<Reedy>
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https://wiki.znc.in/Sasl
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2018-10-10 12:20:08
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<paladox>
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Thanks
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2018-10-10 12:25:55
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<paladox>
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Done
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2018-10-10 13:55:07
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<apergos>
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second window for our switch back to the eqiad datacenter is coming up in 5 minutes. we expect there will be a short read-only period for the wikis during this window
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2018-10-10 13:56:27
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<apergos>
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if you wish to follow along, you may watch patches being deployed in #wikimedia-operations; please keep conversation to a minimum there for now, since folks doing the switchover will be doing work there.
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2018-10-10 14:00:07
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @amir1 - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2018-10-10 14:13:48
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<apergos>
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enterng read-only mode on the wikis for a bit
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2018-10-10 14:15:24
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<mutante>
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told #wikipedia as well
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2018-10-10 14:17:19
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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So planned tests.. and about an 1 hour till completion?
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2018-10-10 14:17:33
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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Status: Read-only then?
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2018-10-10 14:17:43
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<apergos>
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yes; the window is for the next 40 minutes or so; read-only should last less than that
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2018-10-10 14:18:10
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<mutante>
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ShakespeareFan00: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Switch_Datacenter
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2018-10-10 14:18:14
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<mutante>
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it's an actual switch
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2018-10-10 14:18:29
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<apergos>
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we should be ending read-only mode shortly
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2018-10-10 14:50:14
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @amir1 - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2018-10-10 14:54:32
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<The_Photographer>
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some things have been neglected by WMF, easily correctable issues at the software level to keep users distracted from doing routine tasks or fighting a war, if a mechanism is created to link real people with user accounts all these problems would end, but it would be more difficult to manipulate the neutral point of view in wikipedia, a business of governments and companies.
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2018-10-10 14:54:57
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<The_Photographer>
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I think that it should be commented here because its a mediawiki technical issue
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2018-10-10 14:58:17
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<andre__>
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The_Photographer: You are free to provide patches for things that are "neglected", or vote for them in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2018_Community_Wishlist_Survey
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2018-10-10 14:59:09
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<andre__>
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as your priorities might not be exactly the same as "WMF" priorities.
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2018-10-10 14:59:46
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<The_Photographer>
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andre__: community priorites might not be exactly the same "WMF" priorities, you are right
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2018-10-10 15:00:05
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<jeblad>
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My take on this; identification of users is a community issue, not a technical issue. How to do it is a technical issue, but that is mostly "SAML exists, use SAML 2.0"
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2018-10-10 15:00:10
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<jeblad>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAML_2.0
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2018-10-10 15:02:07
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<Amir1>
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hello
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2018-10-10 15:02:14
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<Amir1>
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o/
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2018-10-10 15:02:33
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Hello Amir1
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2018-10-10 15:02:42
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<The_Photographer>
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a system for person identification that uses concise statistical models of facial features in a real-time realisation of the cast identification system of Everingham
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2018-10-10 15:02:57
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Hello CFisch_NA
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2018-10-10 15:03:04
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<TheDiscoverer>
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I have a question
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2018-10-10 15:03:23
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<The_Photographer>
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Mediawiki could use a system integrates the cascaded face detector of Viola and Jones with a kernel-based regressor for face tracking
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2018-10-10 15:03:24
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<Amir1>
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sure :)
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2018-10-10 15:03:28
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<TheDiscoverer>
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When you copy the URL of a non-latin script Wikipedia page from the browser address bar, you get the unwieldly %-URL-encoding. I would like to confirm whether this is something out of MediaWiki control and depends upon the browser.
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2018-10-10 15:03:53
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<Amir1>
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TheDiscoverer: yes, it's outside of mediawiki AFAIK
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2018-10-10 15:04:05
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<Amir1>
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https://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/dencoder/
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2018-10-10 15:04:19
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<TheDiscoverer>
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This task set me thinking about whether it could be possible to solve this problem for URLs copied from the browser address bar too : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152540
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2018-10-10 15:04:20
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<Amir1>
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I use this tool to encode/decode non-latin URLs
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2018-10-10 15:04:43
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<Amir1>
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Section ids are different
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2018-10-10 15:05:03
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Got it
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2018-10-10 15:06:02
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Another option is ShortURL
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2018-10-10 15:06:20
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<Amir1>
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There are plans for that
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2018-10-10 15:06:33
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: Plans for?
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2018-10-10 15:06:33
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<Amir1>
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it eventually will be something like w.wiki/3344
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2018-10-10 15:06:47
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: Oh.. ok
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2018-10-10 15:08:12
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: We were recently discussing this on the Konkani Wikipedia. We are going to request for ShortURL to be installed there. Any thoughts?
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2018-10-10 15:08:13
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<Amir1>
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortUrl
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2018-10-10 15:08:43
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<Amir1>
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There are some issues before moving forward, legoktm knows better (if he's around)
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2018-10-10 15:08:47
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<Amir1>
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let me find the task
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2018-10-10 15:09:11
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic:Ull6izv53n2efql9
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2018-10-10 15:09:30
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<Amir1>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108557
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2018-10-10 15:09:53
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<jeblad>
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Any progress on Gadgets2.0?
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2018-10-10 15:10:00
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<jeblad>
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hides
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2018-10-10 15:10:15
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<Amir1>
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IIRC correctly this is the only blocker for moving forward: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133109 (short url)
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2018-10-10 15:10:52
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<Amir1>
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jeblad: I haven't seen any notes about gadgets in any of SoS in the past couple of months, I guess that's a no :D
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2018-10-10 15:12:08
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: Should that (or anything else) dissuade us from going ahead and setting up shortURL on the Konkani WIkipedia?
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2018-10-10 15:14:24
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<Amir1>
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TheDiscoverer: I looked at the configs and ShortUrl is already deployed in lots of wikis, so technically there shouldn't be any issues
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2018-10-10 15:14:46
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<Amir1>
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but UrlShortener (something different) can't yet be deployed
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2018-10-10 15:17:42
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: how would that work? (urlShortener)
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2018-10-10 15:18:15
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<Amir1>
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UrlShortner will be something like w.wiki/3344 -> an article
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2018-10-10 15:18:59
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<Amir1>
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ShortUrl will be gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/S3344 -> an article
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2018-10-10 15:19:13
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<Amir1>
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of course the first one is way shorter
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2018-10-10 15:19:31
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: ok.. thanks for that explanation
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2018-10-10 15:20:51
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: From the Hindi wikipedia: the urls are something like: https://hi.wikipedia.org/s/1ma
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2018-10-10 15:20:59
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: for ShortURL
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2018-10-10 15:21:14
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<Amir1>
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oh, my bad
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2018-10-10 15:21:17
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<Amir1>
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that's better
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2018-10-10 15:23:47
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: One last question: https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/भारत and https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/भारत Why is it that in hiwiki the shortURL link is in the share icon to the right of the title, while in mrwiki, the entire link is below the title
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2018-10-10 15:24:48
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: The hiwiki style is more aesthetic, isn't it?
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2018-10-10 15:25:02
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<Amir1>
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TheDiscoverer: it's probably javascript in common.js
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2018-10-10 15:25:07
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<Amir1>
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let me find the bit
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2018-10-10 15:28:37
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<Amir1>
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yes, it's added via javascript
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2018-10-10 15:29:46
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<akosiaris>
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Seddon: we don't think the banner staying up is related to the caches
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2018-10-10 15:30:06
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<akosiaris>
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it's something else, but I have 0 knowledge what tbh
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2018-10-10 15:30:22
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: Ok.. so I'll create a task in Phabricator soon.. would you like me to add you as a watcher to the task?
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2018-10-10 15:30:46
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: Then we can see about the link placement once shortURL is set up
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2018-10-10 15:32:04
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<Amir1>
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TheDiscoverer: sure
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2018-10-10 15:32:16
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<Amir1>
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I'm Ladsgroup in phabricator
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2018-10-10 15:32:20
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: ok
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2018-10-10 15:32:31
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: will do
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2018-10-10 15:32:40
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Thanks a lot for your time, Amir1, Goodbye :)
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2018-10-10 15:34:00
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<Amir1>
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have a nice day
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2018-10-10 15:34:09
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<TheDiscoverer>
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Amir1: You too :)
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2018-10-10 15:48:24
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Hey
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2018-10-10 15:48:38
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Sorry I totally forgot about the meeting ^^'
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2018-10-10 15:49:02
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Amir1: Thanks for taking over alone :-)
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2018-10-10 15:49:10
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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We still have 11 minutes!
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2018-10-10 16:00:37
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<tgr>
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FWIW, you can usually get an unencoded version of the URL by only copying a part of it (e.g. skipping the 'https' part)
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2018-10-10 16:24:24
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<_joe_>
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Amir1: one thing to check if you enable /s/ shourturls in the wiki is the apache config having short urls configured as well
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2018-10-10 16:25:03
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<Amir1>
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_joe_: noted, thanks!
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2018-10-10 16:25:33
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<_joe_>
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Amir1: it should be on the wikipedias, AFAIR, but beware I'm merging a lot of changes in the apache config
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2018-10-10 16:26:46
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<Amir1>
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I have seen some of your work, it's awesome. Thanks for the work
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2018-10-10 16:29:54
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<_joe_>
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wait until I break the wikipedias next week before thanking me
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2018-10-10 16:30:17
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<_joe_>
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although if the procedure was very wrong, pitchfork would be out by now, we migrated wiktionary
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2018-10-10 16:30:27
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<_joe_>
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*pitchforks
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2018-10-10 16:35:06
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<Amir1>
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LOL
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2018-10-10 16:35:20
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<Amir1>
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don't worry, we all break things
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2018-10-10 16:35:45
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<Amir1>
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*cough* tmp1 *cough*
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2018-10-10 16:56:47
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<[1997kB]>
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Hello, We received an request for account in which they already have an account on metawiki, but when they go to enwiki it ask them to login and which cannot be done due to IP block, so what's the possible solution here? except creating a new account.
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2018-10-10 17:00:04
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<tgr>
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[1997kB]: that sounds like someone got confused
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2018-10-10 17:00:13
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<tgr>
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blocks don't prevent login
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2018-10-10 17:00:19
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<tgr>
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not on public wikis anyway
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2018-10-10 17:02:34
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<[1997kB]>
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ok, so if they go to enwiki, they can see login page while their IP is blocked and login there with the account they have will automatically create one on enwiki?
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2018-10-10 17:03:59
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<tgr>
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yeah
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2018-10-10 17:04:38
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<tgr>
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they might still be blocked afterwards, depends on whether the block was configured to apply to logged-in users
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2018-10-10 17:04:59
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<tgr>
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but blocks don't prevent autocreation, not even blocks which prevent normal account creation
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2018-10-10 17:09:29
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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Hi Technical advice meeting still ongoing?
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2018-10-10 17:09:54
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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I was wanting to ask if there had been any developments on a PDF support issue..
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2018-10-10 17:12:50
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<[1997kB]>
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tgr, thanks I'll let them know this.
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2018-10-10 17:28:48
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<tgr>
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ShakespeareFan00: no but you can ask questions outside of tech advice meetings as well :)
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2018-10-10 17:29:23
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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Oh
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2018-10-10 17:29:41
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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Basicly it was an issue that was already on Phabricator about supporting newer versions of the PDF standard
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2018-10-10 17:32:53
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<tgr>
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do you know the task number?
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2018-10-10 17:32:56
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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Nope
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2018-10-10 17:33:02
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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I'd have to look that up
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2018-10-10 17:33:35
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<ShakespeareFan00>
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It's essentialy I think that PDF 1.4 is supported, but 1.5 isn't
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2018-10-10 18:21:16
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<ToBeCloud>
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oops, server error
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2018-10-10 18:22:03
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<ToBeCloud>
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oh, forget that, it was the open tab with the page that already has a phabricator bug
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