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2017-10-16 07:50:56
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<qgil>
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Happy Monday! I was wondering whether there had been any discussion about... using Wikidata for Wikimedia users. Wikidata for the User: namespace.
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2017-10-16 07:51:52
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<qgil>
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The idea being that users could describe themselves using Wikidata parameters, just like they describe themselves with natural language in their user pages.
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2017-10-16 07:52:50
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<qgil>
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What I am after are queries like "users registered to the Wikimedia Hackathon 2018 that speak French and know Python". :)
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2017-10-16 07:53:24
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<qgil>
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"Wikimedians who joined in 2016 and live in Andorra"
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2017-10-16 07:54:53
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<qgil>
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Not all Wikimedians will be relevant enough for Wikidata proper, hence the idea of "Wikidata for the User namespace".
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2017-10-16 07:55:40
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<qgil>
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(This might be a crazy idea in many ways. Then again, it is Monday morning in this part of the planet.)
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2017-10-16 08:03:09
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<qgil>
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I see that the second line in "Create an item" says "Note: Don't create an item for your userpage. It will be deleted." So someone has thought about this, in a way. ;)
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2017-10-16 08:06:29
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<delphine>
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qgil that would be so neat!
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2017-10-16 08:06:38
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<delphine>
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I'm sure people are going to find that terrible.
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2017-10-16 08:06:46
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<delphine>
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but I'd love to have something like this ;)
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2017-10-16 08:07:18
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<delphine>
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but yeah, it is probably a Monday morning idea :)
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2017-10-16 08:09:31
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<qgil>
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After a few more minutes of research, it seems that those who would not say it is a bad idea upfront, would say that Global Userpages should go first, as per https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Inclusion_of_non-article_pages#User_pages
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2017-10-16 08:10:58
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<qgil>
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I am not a volunteer with plenty of time to discuss this idea, and how we could count Meta or Wikidata userpages only while those global userpages come (in 2030, with luck). ;)
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2017-10-16 08:11:13
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<qgil>
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So yeah, Monday morning.
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2017-10-16 08:11:19
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<qgil>
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Pity though.
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2017-10-16 08:12:51
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<delphine>
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yeah ;)
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2017-10-16 08:12:52
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<qgil>
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An alternative being Structured Data on Userpages. ;) Maybe I someone finds a donor willing to pay a grant for that.
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2017-10-16 08:13:41
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<delphine>
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well what you're asking for really is a CRM for Wikimedians
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2017-10-16 08:13:58
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<delphine>
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we're cruelly lacking this ;)
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2017-10-16 08:14:02
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<qgil>
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Yes, exactly.
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2017-10-16 08:14:48
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<qgil>
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I literally started looking at events management software and CRMs, until I thought that we could build upon wikidata and userpages instead.
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2017-10-16 08:15:50
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<qgil>
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Based on this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165200
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2017-10-16 10:35:53
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<b_jonas>
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qgil: yes, and also language links in user pages weren't imported when the mass imports of language links from wikipedia to wikidata was done
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2017-10-16 11:43:11
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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yurik: did you see my updates in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/383774/ (CSS → LESS)? If you’re okay with it, I’d be glad to merge that slightly updated version :)
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2017-10-16 11:45:59
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<yurik>
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Lucas_WMDE, ah, sorry, missed that. just +1 it :)
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2017-10-16 11:46:09
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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cool :)
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2017-10-16 11:46:13
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<yurik>
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thanks!!!
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2017-10-16 11:46:38
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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I think I’ll let Jonas_WMDE take another look as well, but I’m very happy with this now
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2017-10-16 11:47:08
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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if we can get modern JavaScript syntax to work in the same way (no Babel necessary if the developer uses a modern browser), I’d really love that setup :)
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2017-10-16 12:44:40
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<maxi>
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hello
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2017-10-16 12:45:01
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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leszek_wmde: I had to do a minor fixup in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/383995 , now it lost your +2
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2017-10-16 12:45:35
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<leszek_wmde>
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done
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2017-10-16 12:48:23
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<d3r1ck>
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Hey Thiemo_WMDE, any plans with this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/370808/
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2017-10-16 12:48:46
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<d3r1ck>
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we can continue here right: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/367320/?
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2017-10-16 12:51:34
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<maxi>
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i'm tryng to fetch wikidata enpoint with a remote query. but it does not respond
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2017-10-16 12:52:30
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<maxi>
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is it the corrrect enpoint ? https://query.wikidata.org/
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2017-10-16 12:53:23
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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maxi: the endpoint to actually run a sparql query is https://query.wikidata.org/sparql
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2017-10-16 12:53:33
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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GET or POST with ?query=…
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2017-10-16 12:57:03
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<maxi>
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i'm using post with arc2 library for php
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2017-10-16 12:57:43
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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make sure that the POST body still is “query=SELECT …”, not just “SELECT …”
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2017-10-16 13:01:59
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<maxi>
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ok
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2017-10-16 13:05:18
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<maxi>
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What about the namespace ? in the query example there aren't prefixs
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2017-10-16 13:05:52
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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most of the prefixes you need are pre-defined by default (though it doesn’t hurt to explicitly declare them either)
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2017-10-16 13:06:22
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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that happens in the backend, not in the UI, so you can also omit the prefixes when directly using the endpoint
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2017-10-16 13:09:19
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<maxi>
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thanks Lucas
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2017-10-16 13:10:32
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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you’re welcome :)
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2017-10-16 13:36:50
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<pintoch>
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Lucas_WMDE: I'm not sure my notification worked, so there you go: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Primary_sources_tool#Rejecting_primary_sources_suggestions_based_on_constraint_violations.3F
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2017-10-16 13:38:13
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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pintoch: looks like it didn’t work, not sure why
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2017-10-16 13:38:17
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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anyways, I’ll reply
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2017-10-16 14:20:07
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<dries>
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g
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