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2017-11-08 01:29:46
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<SparkyHelper2>
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i have a tech issue
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2017-11-08 01:30:02
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<Reedy>
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What is it?
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2017-11-08 01:30:47
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<SparkyHelper2>
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the wikipedia app problem
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2017-11-08 01:33:17
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<SparkyHelper2>
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it lets me edit when i am blcoek
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2017-11-08 01:33:19
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<SparkyHelper2>
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blocked
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2017-11-08 01:34:39
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<Reedy>
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Does it?
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2017-11-08 01:34:44
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<Reedy>
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What username on wiki?
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2017-11-08 01:34:51
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<SparkyHelper2>
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SparkyHelper2
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2017-11-08 01:34:58
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<Reedy>
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Which wiki?
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2017-11-08 01:35:02
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<SparkyHelper2>
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I have been blocked from 2006
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2017-11-08 01:35:08
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<SparkyHelper2>
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wikipedia
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2017-11-08 01:35:10
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<SparkyHelper2>
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the app
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2017-11-08 01:35:12
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<Reedy>
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english?
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2017-11-08 01:35:15
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<SparkyHelper2>
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yes
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2017-11-08 01:35:26
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<SparkyHelper2>
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i reported but people said it was fake
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2017-11-08 01:35:31
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<Reedy>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SparkyHelper2
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2017-11-08 01:35:31
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<SparkyHelper2>
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so please fix it
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2017-11-08 01:35:40
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<Reedy>
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10:20, 6 November 2017 Yunshui (talk | contribs) blocked SparkyHelper2 (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked) (Abusing multiple accounts: User:ScooterBeanieBoo)
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2017-11-08 01:35:46
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<Reedy>
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You were blocked after the last edit
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2017-11-08 01:35:50
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<SparkyHelper2>
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yep that's me
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2017-11-08 01:35:58
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<Reedy>
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The previous block
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2017-11-08 01:35:58
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<Reedy>
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23:12, 20 October 2017 Ponyo (talk | contribs) blocked SparkyHelper2 (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of 24 hours (account creation blocked) (Vandalism)
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2017-11-08 01:36:04
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<SparkyHelper2>
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I can still edit
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2017-11-08 01:36:14
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<Reedy>
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There's no evidence of it
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2017-11-08 01:36:23
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<Reedy>
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The last contribution was before the indefinite block
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2017-11-08 01:36:29
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<SparkyHelper2>
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but i will prove it ok
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2017-11-08 01:36:40
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<Reedy>
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Sure, please do
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2017-11-08 01:36:53
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<SparkyHelper2>
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watch the eraser page on english wikipedia
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2017-11-08 01:37:35
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<SparkyHelper2>
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I can't get there
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2017-11-08 01:38:31
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<SparkyHelper2>
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sorry i got to leave
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2017-11-08 01:44:10
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<Reedy>
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lol
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2017-11-08 01:48:08
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<Sri_Designer>
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To be on the safe side, check his ip for vandalisms
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2017-11-08 01:48:48
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<Reedy>
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Nothing recent
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2017-11-08 09:00:12
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<mutante>
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4/win 2
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2017-11-08 14:13:09
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<Antime>
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Hello. I'd like to ask when will the cloud discussions begin. Kindly confirm 4pm UTC as noticed in the mail list. Regards
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2017-11-08 14:19:29
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<andre__>
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Antime: What are the cloud discussions?
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2017-11-08 14:19:42
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<andre__>
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Antime: Do you mean https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting ?
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2017-11-08 14:23:41
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<Antime>
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Thanx. @andre__
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2017-11-08 15:03:26
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<MichaelSchoenitz>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @Christoph_Jauera_(WMDE) - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2017-11-08 16:00:22
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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\o/
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2017-11-08 16:01:33
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Welcome everybody to the 12th Technical Advice IRC Meeting!
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2017-11-08 16:02:01
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<addshore>
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0/
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2017-11-08 16:05:15
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<Wurgl>
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Silence? May I start asking?
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2017-11-08 16:05:25
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Sure!
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2017-11-08 16:05:52
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<Wurgl>
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on database dewiki_p I miss the prividege for the EXPLAIN clause
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2017-11-08 16:07:01
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<Wurgl>
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I tend to do a lot of logic with SQL, but since I do not see what keys exist and I do cannot use EXPLAIN … well, its a lttle bit hard
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2017-11-08 16:07:18
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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sounds like something for the ops people
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2017-11-08 16:07:38
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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you should create a ticket on Phabricator
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2017-11-08 16:07:38
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<Wurgl>
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https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/22259 <-- an example for a nice query. Description is in german language
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2017-11-08 16:08:28
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<Wurgl>
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okay
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2017-11-08 16:09:21
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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and you could additionally ask in #wikimedia-operations
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2017-11-08 16:09:59
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<Wurgl>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179922 <-- another one for those people.
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2017-11-08 16:15:12
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<Wurgl>
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Another thing which took a few hours to find out … https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#How_to_log_in
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2017-11-08 16:15:18
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<Wurgl>
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The login sequence
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2017-11-08 16:15:49
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Looking at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors#Technical%20Operations :
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2017-11-08 16:15:49
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<Wurgl>
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Yes, you need a token. And with the next call, this token has to be sent back to the server
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2017-11-08 16:15:52
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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For Database related stuff you could probably poke people like https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:JCrespo_(WMF) and https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MArostegui_(WMF)
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2017-11-08 16:17:04
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<Wurgl>
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But what I missed: You also get a few cookies set and you need to send those cookies back to the server too. If you do not you get a message like "logintoken is missing"
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2017-11-08 16:17:37
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<Wurgl>
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So it would be nice if someone mentions the need for cookies in this two-step login procedure
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2017-11-08 16:18:16
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<Wurgl>
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… or change the error message …
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2017-11-08 16:18:41
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Oh, nice finding. You could probably add that additional info ... it's a wiki ;-)!
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2017-11-08 16:19:22
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<Wurgl>
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Well my english is a little bit … not so nice
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2017-11-08 16:19:29
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Hehe
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2017-11-08 16:21:07
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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So if I understand it correctly, when you request the token to login, there are cookies set that will be needed for the 2nd step, the actual login?
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2017-11-08 16:21:24
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<addshore>
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silly wifi!
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2017-11-08 16:21:47
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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wb addshore ;-)
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2017-11-08 16:21:54
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<Wurgl>
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exactly
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2017-11-08 16:22:06
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<addshore>
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*reads up*
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2017-11-08 16:23:16
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<addshore>
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hmm, I think all of the indexes are explained somewhere
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2017-11-08 16:23:25
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<Wurgl>
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No question that one needs the cookies set by the login itself. But I did not expect a need for those when requesting the token
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2017-11-08 16:23:48
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<Wurgl>
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Yes, the indexes can be found in the dump files
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2017-11-08 16:24:25
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<Wurgl>
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there you see create table statements at the very beginning.
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2017-11-08 16:24:44
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<addshore>
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https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Database#Replica_database_schema_.28tables_and_indexes.29
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2017-11-08 16:33:19
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Wurgl: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=2613935&oldid=2502127&title=API%3ALogin&type=revision ;-)
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2017-11-08 16:33:59
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<Wurgl>
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perfect
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2017-11-08 16:37:38
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<addshore>
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:D
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2017-11-08 16:41:28
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Anyone else with questions? :-)
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2017-11-08 16:41:43
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Trivial patches that need reviews ;-)
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2017-11-08 16:46:45
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<addshore>
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1 liners!
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2017-11-08 16:47:06
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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*g*
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2017-11-08 16:47:48
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Ah, I have one addshore https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/389951/ ^^
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2017-11-08 16:48:13
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<addshore>
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ooooh
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2017-11-08 16:48:37
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<addshore>
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hahahahhaaa
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2017-11-08 16:56:58
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<Wurgl>
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Found a workaround for the missing EXPLAIN … https://tools.wmflabs.org/tools-info/optimizer.py
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2017-11-08 16:57:55
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<addshore>
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wooo!
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2017-11-08 16:58:09
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<Wurgl>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50875 <-- mentioned here
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2017-11-08 16:59:07
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<addshore>
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Wurgl: if you can manage to work a link to that into the docs then do! :D
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2017-11-08 16:59:56
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<addshore>
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Right thats about it!
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2017-11-08 17:00:40
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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:-)
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2017-11-08 17:01:30
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<addshore>
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Until next time!
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2017-11-08 17:05:58
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<Wurgl>
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I have bookmarked that tool-page, I will try to find some nice place
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2017-11-08 22:35:01
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<SparkyHelper2>
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I have a bug with the Wikipedia app
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2017-11-08 22:45:10
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<legoktm>
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SparkyHelper2: no you don't
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2017-11-08 22:45:52
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<SparkyHelper2>
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Oh sorry bye
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2017-11-08 22:51:16
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<eddiegp>
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lol, that conversation :D
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2017-11-08 22:51:38
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<Zppix>
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Gotta love it
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2017-11-08 22:55:07
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<Amgine>
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legoktm-kenobi.
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2017-11-08 23:01:47
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<Krinkle>
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tgr: :)
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2017-11-08 23:03:27
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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damn. phab doesn't have quips function, does it?
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2017-11-08 23:06:47
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<Krinkle>
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DanielK_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Quips
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2017-11-08 23:06:51
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<Krinkle>
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/bash/top
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2017-11-08 23:10:52
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<eddiegp>
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/bash/quip/AV-d16bjJfYMc0lpkgTu ;)
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2017-11-08 23:18:06
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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!bash <RandomGuy2> I have a bug with the Wikipedia app <legoktm> RandomGuy2: no you don't <RandomGuy2> Oh sorry bye
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2017-11-08 23:18:06
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<stashbot>
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DanielK_WMDE: Stored quip at https://tools.wmflabs.org/bash/quip/AV-d7Sm-F4fsM4DBdbLP
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2017-11-08 23:18:12
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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\o/
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2017-11-08 23:18:40
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<Zppix>
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Yes
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2017-11-08 23:18:45
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<Zppix>
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Love
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2017-11-08 23:19:03
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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stashbot should randomly post qips when the channel is quiet
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2017-11-08 23:19:04
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<stashbot>
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See https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tool:Stashbot for help.
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2017-11-08 23:19:28
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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sssshhh, shut up stashbot!
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2017-11-08 23:19:34
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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i wasn't talking to you
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2017-11-08 23:20:19
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<eddiegp>
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Now it's there stored twice in quips
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2017-11-08 23:20:20
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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eddiegp was waaaayyy ahead of me, I see :)
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2017-11-08 23:21:05
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<DanielK_WMDE>
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*sigh* yea...
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2017-11-08 23:21:33
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<eddiegp>
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I've felt free to delete the second one, hope you don't mind :)
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2017-11-08 23:23:04
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<eddiegp>
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DanielK_WMDE: ^
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2017-11-08 23:41:41
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<tgr>
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Krinkle: sorry, had another meeting
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2017-11-08 23:42:30
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<tgr>
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I was thinking of things like Mobile Content Service
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2017-11-08 23:44:16
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<tgr>
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which was initially created for Wikipedia-specific mobile apps, so there wasn't really a point to making it usable for third parties, and then the mobile web has become increasingly more reliant on it, but it's still mostly treated as a Wikimedia-specific tool (e.g. no assumption that the wiki might be configured differently from Wikimedia wikis, to not even mention installation support)
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2017-11-08 23:45:46
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<tgr>
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and there isn't any place in that process where one could point to and say "an RfC should have happened here", at least with how we think of RfCs today
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