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2018-11-21 15:00:21
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2018-11-21 15:18:00
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<addshore>
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turns the fire on in the room to warm it up for CFisch_WMDE
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2018-11-21 15:18:07
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<addshore>
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CFisch_WMDE: you dont have anyone joining you?
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2018-11-21 15:19:54
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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warms his frozen hands at the chimney
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2018-11-21 15:19:59
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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addshore: chirborg should be joining me later
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2018-11-21 15:20:10
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<addshore>
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I see :0
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2018-11-21 15:20:11
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<addshore>
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:)
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2018-11-21 15:21:48
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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fixed the wiki
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2018-11-21 15:22:16
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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addshore: will you here as well for upcoming grafana questions?
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2018-11-21 15:22:45
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<addshore>
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reads the wiki
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2018-11-21 15:22:47
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<addshore>
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ooooooh
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2018-11-21 15:27:07
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<addshore>
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https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Graphite#Service_operation
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2018-11-21 15:27:46
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<addshore>
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hmm, though I dont think that is the name of the host you want to send data too
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2018-11-21 15:27:48
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<addshore>
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hmm *looks*
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2018-11-21 15:29:13
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<addshore>
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'statsd' => 'labmon1001.eqiad.wmnet',
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2018-11-21 15:29:15
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<addshore>
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it is indeed
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2018-11-21 15:43:29
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<addshore>
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CFisch_WMDE: I prepared something
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2018-11-21 15:43:33
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<addshore>
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https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qfjm1Sqh/
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2018-11-21 15:44:01
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<addshore>
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i should be back for questions etc in 20/30 mins or so
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2018-11-21 15:44:27
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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ohhh, nice, thanks already :-)
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2018-11-21 15:50:20
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @chiborg - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2018-11-21 16:00:33
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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\o/
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2018-11-21 16:00:45
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<chiborg>
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Welcome to the Technical Advice IRC Meeting! @CFisch_WMDE and me will try to answer your questions in the next 60 minutes.
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2018-11-21 16:00:52
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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:-D
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2018-11-21 16:03:15
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Sooo we have a pre-posted question from the user Pintoch on the wiki
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2018-11-21 16:03:42
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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but I guess the user's not here yet :-)
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2018-11-21 16:06:19
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Anyone else having questions?
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2018-11-21 16:15:40
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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See to be a calm round...
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2018-11-21 16:19:59
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<McJohn>
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Holiday tomorrow in the US
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2018-11-21 16:22:23
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Hehe
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2018-11-21 16:22:41
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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But not in Europe :-)
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2018-11-21 16:30:03
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<kaartic>
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hello is the technical advice meeting in progress?
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2018-11-21 16:30:19
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<AntiComposite>
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Yes
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2018-11-21 16:30:20
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<chiborg>
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kaartic yes, welcome
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2018-11-21 16:32:41
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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kaartic: If you have any questions just fire away :-)
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2018-11-21 16:32:54
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<addshore>
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\o
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2018-11-21 16:33:23
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<kaartic>
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hi all. i'm about to develop a mobile app which could be used to upload recordings of pronunciations of different words to commons.
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2018-11-21 16:33:56
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<kaartic>
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first, i wanted to know if one existed already
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2018-11-21 16:33:58
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<kaartic>
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?
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2018-11-21 16:35:03
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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kaartic: there might be something like that already
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2018-11-21 16:35:13
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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we'll have a look :-)
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2018-11-21 16:37:08
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<kaartic>
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OK. where do you look up info about apps like these?
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2018-11-21 16:37:35
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<chiborg>
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kaartic There is https://lingualibre.fr/wiki/LinguaLibre:Main_Page that collects audio recording. Are you looking for an app frontend for that page or a project like this in general?
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2018-11-21 16:37:50
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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kaartic: hi
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2018-11-21 16:38:27
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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I wanted to develop the exact same thing ;)
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2018-11-21 16:38:32
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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kaartic: afaik there's no central place for wiki related apps
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2018-11-21 16:38:48
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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for Commons there's this page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_tools#Smartphone_apps
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2018-11-21 16:39:26
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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(in my volunteer time)
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2018-11-21 16:39:37
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Nudin_WMDE: *g*
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2018-11-21 16:41:05
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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I'm currently also investigating LinguaLibre and wether to still develop something. I also have a few friends which would be interested in that, so if you develop something in that direction please let me know :)
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2018-11-21 16:42:39
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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I'm User:MichaelSchoenitzer in my volunteer time btw.
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2018-11-21 16:43:45
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<kaartic>
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chiborg: yeah. I'm looking for an app frontend for it.
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2018-11-21 16:45:02
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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kaartic: I guess https://github.com/commons-app/apps-android-commons is more general purpose but it might be worth it to look at it
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2018-11-21 16:45:20
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<kaartic>
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<Nudin_WMDE> hi. glad to hear that. I'm sort of thinking of developing in that direction (ligualibre)
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2018-11-21 16:45:37
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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and maybe it makes sense to extend / fork the commons app
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2018-11-21 16:46:53
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<chiborg>
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That's also what I would recommend. You could also take some UI inspiration from the app for https://voice.mozilla.org/ , but at least fro me that app did not work well.
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2018-11-21 16:48:19
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<kaartic>
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<CFisch_WMDE> I do use the commons app. but never thought if extending it to add this functionality if I'm into developing this. thanks for the hint :-)
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2018-11-21 16:49:21
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<kaartic>
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CFisch_WMDE: BTW the page you mentioned about apps (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_tools#Smartphone_apps) seems a not outdated
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2018-11-21 16:49:36
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<kaartic>
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I think there's NP iOS app for commons now
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2018-11-21 16:49:52
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<kaartic>
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oops.NP -> NO
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2018-11-21 16:51:26
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<kaartic>
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Nudin_WMDE: BTW,I'll let you know if I start developing the app
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2018-11-21 16:51:36
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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yeah it seems so - but at leas the code is still there
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2018-11-21 16:52:02
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<kaartic>
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Nudin_WMDE: I'm User:Kaartic
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2018-11-21 16:52:43
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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kaartic: regarding the android app: You try to contact the devs there and pitch your project, maybe they have some ideas / suggestions
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2018-11-21 16:53:31
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<kaartic>
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CFisch_WMDE: sure
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2018-11-21 16:54:09
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<kaartic>
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chiborg: thanks for the hint. I'll see into it
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2018-11-21 16:54:10
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<d3r1ck>
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o/
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2018-11-21 16:54:35
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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Hi d3r1ck :-)
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2018-11-21 16:54:56
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<d3r1ck>
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tries to catch up with logs
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2018-11-21 16:55:34
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<kaartic>
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Just wondering, if I wanted to develop a standalone app for this which API should I use to communicate with Commons the Mediawiki API or the RestBase one?
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2018-11-21 16:55:39
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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kaartic: cool! I'm looking forward to hear from you and will write you it I develop something or find something.
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2018-11-21 16:56:07
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<kaartic>
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Does RestBase have all the features for developing such an app?
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2018-11-21 16:56:44
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<kaartic>
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Nudin_WMDE: sure. we'll see. :-)
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2018-11-21 16:58:24
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<chiborg>
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Looking at the available RestBase enpoints at https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/ I see none for uploading content. so I guess it's MediaWiki API
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2018-11-21 16:59:17
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<chiborg>
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But you'd have to ask the lingua libra people what APIs they support.
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2018-11-21 16:59:49
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<chiborg>
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Or look at https://lingualibre.fr/api.php
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2018-11-21 17:00:33
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<bawolff>
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chiborg: Anything that involves editing/inserting content usually goes through mediawiki action api
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2018-11-21 17:02:09
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<chiborg>
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And that's it for the Technical Advice IRC Meeting! Thank you for your questions & participation!
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2018-11-21 17:04:11
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<CFisch_WMDE>
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o/
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2018-11-21 17:08:18
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<zchrykng>
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Tell me if this is stupid/ill-advised, but is it possible to write a python (or other) script to update a page with the contents of a file? Trying to setup a workflow for updating a userscript from a CI pipeline.
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2018-11-21 17:09:31
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<AntiComposite>
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Oh...there's someone who does that already. I don't remember who though
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2018-11-21 17:09:49
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<Platonides>
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pywikibot
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2018-11-21 17:12:05
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<kaartic>
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chiborg: thanks for the info
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2018-11-21 17:12:36
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<AntiComposite>
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Twinkle uses https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle/blob/master/sync.pl to sync from GitHub to a ton of Gadget pages
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2018-11-21 17:14:24
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<zchrykng>
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Ah, nice. If I get this working, it should be fairly reusable. At least for Gitlab's built in CI.
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2018-11-21 17:14:58
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<zchrykng>
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Now I need to learn perl to understand the script though...
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2018-11-21 17:14:59
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<zchrykng>
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XD
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2018-11-21 17:15:44
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<Platonides>
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interesting parameter: "password for account on wikipedia (do not use)"
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2018-11-21 17:16:04
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<zchrykng>
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Maybe legacy option?
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2018-11-21 17:20:33
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<Platonides>
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maybe
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2018-11-21 17:24:24
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<McJohn>
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Don’t be hatin’ on perl
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2018-11-21 17:25:32
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<zchrykng>
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Not hating on it... just never had any reason to learn it.
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2018-11-21 17:43:31
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<Isarra>
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Is there some sort of pattern to what projects have compact language links enabled by default?
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2018-11-21 17:44:30
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<Isarra>
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Which brings me to my other question: did folks actually NOT want it?
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2018-11-21 17:45:13
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<Platonides>
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Isarra: look up the settings at InitialiseSettings.php ?
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2018-11-21 17:45:50
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<Isarra>
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Ah, right.
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2018-11-21 21:12:37
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; محمد بن تركي الفيصل; /* صفحة خاصة */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18634256&oldid=18627795&rcid=12798119
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2018-11-21 21:49:38
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<snitch>
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[[Tech]]; AKlapper (WMF); /* صفحة خاصة */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18634359&oldid=18634256&rcid=12798258
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