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2017-12-06 12:13:41
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<david___>
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hi
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2017-12-06 12:13:59
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<Adotchar>
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hi
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2017-12-06 15:28:13
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<Nudin_WMDE>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @Thiemo_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2017-12-06 15:59:39
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<addshore>
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\o
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2017-12-06 16:00:06
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<andre__>
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o/
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2017-12-06 16:00:39
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<addshore>
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Welcome to this week technical advice session!!!!!
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2017-12-06 16:01:09
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<Adotchar>
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Is it now?
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2017-12-06 16:02:09
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<addshore>
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It is indeed!
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2017-12-06 16:02:31
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<Adotchar>
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:)
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2017-12-06 16:02:32
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<addshore>
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for the next hour you have the mostly undivided attention of Lucas_WMDE Thiemo_WMDE & I!
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2017-12-06 16:02:44
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<Dysklyver>
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Can I talk about tables?
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2017-12-06 16:03:13
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Tables in the wikitext?
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2017-12-06 16:03:16
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<Dysklyver>
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yes
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2017-12-06 16:03:26
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<Dysklyver>
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you see I have been working on this: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Places_in_Cornwall
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2017-12-06 16:03:43
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<Dysklyver>
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and it takes a very long time to make sortable tables
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2017-12-06 16:04:02
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<Dysklyver>
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is it possible to automate this
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2017-12-06 16:04:08
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<Phantom42>
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Hi! I don't have any questions or something. I joined this channel because I was just curious to see what Technical Advice IRC meeting is :) Going to stay silent and don't disturb you.
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2017-12-06 16:04:18
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<andre__>
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Asking any random questions, it is. :D
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2017-12-06 16:04:28
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Look into Listeria by Magnus Manske. :-)
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2017-12-06 16:04:43
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<Dysklyver>
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that seems to work off wikidata
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2017-12-06 16:05:13
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Well, all these places in Cornwall should be on Wikidata. :-)
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2017-12-06 16:05:47
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<Dysklyver>
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hmm thats a point
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2017-12-06 16:06:15
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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You can also try to prepare lists in Excel and copy-paste them into the VisualEditor.
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2017-12-06 16:06:30
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<Dysklyver>
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that could also work
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2017-12-06 16:06:52
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<Dysklyver>
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ok thanks, I am just asking cause if it was easier i could do all the other counties
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2017-12-06 16:07:50
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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We plan to work on automatic list generation from Wikidata data in 2018. That will be exactly what you want, I hope.
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2017-12-06 16:08:01
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<addshore>
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Woo Wikidata!
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2017-12-06 16:09:56
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<addshore>
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So, any other interesting questions? :)
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2017-12-06 16:09:58
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<Adotchar>
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I have a question
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2017-12-06 16:09:59
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<addshore>
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or boring ones!
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2017-12-06 16:10:03
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<addshore>
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Adotchar: go ahead!
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2017-12-06 16:10:05
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<Adotchar>
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What does WMDE stand for
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2017-12-06 16:10:11
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<Dysklyver>
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automatic list generation would be great, all lists and indexes could benefit from being sortable tables, thanks
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2017-12-06 16:10:24
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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WikiMedia DEutschland (Wikimedia Germany)
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2017-12-06 16:10:31
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<addshore>
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Wikimedia Germany / ikimedia Deutschland
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2017-12-06 16:10:39
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<Adotchar>
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kk
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2017-12-06 16:10:40
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<addshore>
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https://wikimedia.de/wiki/Hauptseite
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2017-12-06 16:10:43
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<Dysklyver>
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" ikimedia " ?
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2017-12-06 16:10:50
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<addshore>
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Dysklyver: bad typing, Lucas_WMDE beat me!
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2017-12-06 16:10:53
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<Dysklyver>
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lol
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2017-12-06 16:10:57
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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muahaha :D
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2017-12-06 16:11:43
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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I’m not sure if our German-language website is useful to you :D basically it’s the German chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation
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2017-12-06 16:12:11
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland
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2017-12-06 16:12:21
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Basically WM<country code> is the naming scheme for all local chapters.
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2017-12-06 16:13:27
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<Dysklyver>
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country code or language code?
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2017-12-06 16:13:41
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Dysklyver: Country, as these chapters are per country.
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2017-12-06 16:13:46
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<Dysklyver>
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ok cool
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2017-12-06 16:13:51
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<Adotchar>
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WMUS?
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2017-12-06 16:14:01
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Well ... ;-)
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2017-12-06 16:14:04
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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there is a WMDC for US-specific topics as far as I understand
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2017-12-06 16:14:09
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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(as in Washington DC)
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2017-12-06 16:14:11
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<Adotchar>
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Yes.
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2017-12-06 16:14:20
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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*exceptions apply*
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2017-12-06 16:14:21
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<Adotchar>
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And a NYC one.
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2017-12-06 16:14:24
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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but I’m not qualified to comment on the details :)
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2017-12-06 16:14:28
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<mutante>
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there is US-DC and US-NYC
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2017-12-06 16:14:28
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<Zppix>
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WMF is the main US "Chapter"
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2017-12-06 16:14:28
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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oh, I didn’t know that!
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2017-12-06 16:14:34
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<mutante>
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they _should_ use wikimedia.us
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2017-12-06 16:14:36
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<mutante>
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but they dont:)
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2017-12-06 16:14:37
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<Adotchar>
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‘murica’s so big we have two.
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2017-12-06 16:14:46
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<mutante>
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WMF is not a chapter
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2017-12-06 16:14:58
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<Zppix>
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mutante: hence its in quotes
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2017-12-06 16:15:00
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<mutante>
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters
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2017-12-06 16:15:08
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<Dysklyver>
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the WMF is global, but "based" in the US
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2017-12-06 16:15:27
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<mutante>
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no, Wikimedia is a global movement and the foundation is located in the US
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2017-12-06 16:15:46
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<Dysklyver>
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which I believe is just a legal and head office location issue than anything else
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2017-12-06 16:16:05
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<bawolff>
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A bit more than just that
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2017-12-06 16:17:01
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<mutante>
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there is some engineering there but less than it used to. many people are around the world working remote
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2017-12-06 16:17:23
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<mutante>
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it just moved to a smaller location
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2017-12-06 16:17:24
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<Zppix>
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I wonder what it takes to start a chapter... WMNA sounds like a good one
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2017-12-06 16:17:33
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<Adotchar>
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Catalan’s trying to make one.
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2017-12-06 16:17:51
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<addshore>
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ooooh, sounds very technical
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2017-12-06 16:17:52
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<mutante>
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actually, now i found the _real_ answer to your question
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2017-12-06 16:17:54
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<mutante>
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters
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2017-12-06 16:17:58
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<mutante>
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_this_ is Wikimedia US
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2017-12-06 16:18:07
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<Zppix>
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addshore: ?
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2017-12-06 16:18:08
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<mutante>
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the coalition of the US chapters, heh
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2017-12-06 16:18:15
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<Adotchar>
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Addshore: The conversation went off topic. It’s fine.
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2017-12-06 16:18:18
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<mutante>
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_United_States_Coalition
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2017-12-06 16:18:32
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<addshore>
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Adotchar: ;)
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2017-12-06 16:18:32
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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Zppix: there are also user groups
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2017-12-06 16:18:43
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<mutante>
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"regional chapters" is a term
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2017-12-06 16:18:49
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups
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2017-12-06 16:19:20
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<mutante>
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afaict you typically start as a user group and later "upgrade" to a real chapter
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2017-12-06 16:19:37
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<mutante>
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here's how to: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contact/affcomusergroup
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2017-12-06 16:19:52
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<Dysklyver>
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a bit like how Wikiprojects or Wikipedias incubate i suppose
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2017-12-06 16:20:08
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<Zppix>
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mutante: so in theory i could start Wikimedia North America?
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2017-12-06 16:20:44
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<Adotchar>
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Can I start Wikimedia Antarctica and not go there?
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2017-12-06 16:21:04
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<Zppix>
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Adotchar: dont think that will get many members lol
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2017-12-06 16:21:18
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<Adotchar>
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I can find a few penguins.
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2017-12-06 16:21:29
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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If anybody does have a more technical question, please don't be afraid to ask. :-)
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2017-12-06 16:21:45
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<Dysklyver>
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there is a wikiproject Antarctica on en-wiki
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2017-12-06 16:21:52
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<Zppix>
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Im being serious though, i could start wikimedia north america correct?
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2017-12-06 16:23:46
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<addshore>
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There are hoops to bump through, but i dont see why not
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2017-12-06 16:24:06
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<mutante>
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Zppix: i think that "North America" is already the "colation United States"
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2017-12-06 16:24:12
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<mutante>
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Zppix: also, don't forget Canada and Mexico
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2017-12-06 16:24:14
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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I’m not sure what that would be… some super-chapter encompassing Wikimedia México, Canada, DC and NYC?
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2017-12-06 16:24:23
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<bawolff>
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Wikicon-USA got renamed WikiConNorthAmerica
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2017-12-06 16:24:31
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<bawolff>
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so I think they're trying to be all encompassing
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2017-12-06 16:24:36
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<bawolff>
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but I don't really see the point
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2017-12-06 16:24:39
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<Zppix>
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Lucas_WMDE: all of North america
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2017-12-06 16:24:52
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<mutante>
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Zppix: what state are you in?
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2017-12-06 16:24:57
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<bawolff>
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Wikimedia Canada has had lots of issues due to being too broad a base to easily form a chapter
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2017-12-06 16:25:00
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<Zppix>
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Illinois
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2017-12-06 16:25:04
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<bawolff>
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I imagine WM-NA would be that times ten
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2017-12-06 16:25:14
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<Adotchar>
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I have to go.
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2017-12-06 16:25:15
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<mutante>
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Zppix: start Wikimedia User Group Illinois then ?:)
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2017-12-06 16:25:15
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<Adotchar>
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Bye.
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2017-12-06 16:25:33
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<Zppix>
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mutante: Okay :/
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2017-12-06 16:26:06
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<Zppix>
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How does one start that
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2017-12-06 16:28:07
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<mutante>
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Zppix: fill out the form above
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2017-12-06 16:28:12
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<mutante>
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it goes to "affcom"
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2017-12-06 16:29:03
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<Dysklyver>
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it says you need "Three active Wikimedians"
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2017-12-06 16:29:25
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<Dysklyver>
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presumably from the same area?
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2017-12-06 16:29:32
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<Zppix>
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Yes
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2017-12-06 16:29:36
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<addshore>
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30 mins left [=
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2017-12-06 16:29:48
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<Zppix>
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Ill have to bug some illinois residents
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2017-12-06 16:29:56
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<Zppix>
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But I will do it :)
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2017-12-06 16:32:57
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<Zppix>
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I now have something fun to do thanks guys!
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2017-12-06 16:32:59
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<Zppix>
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:)
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2017-12-06 16:33:06
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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\o/
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2017-12-06 16:33:08
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<mutante>
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:)
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2017-12-06 16:33:37
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<mutante>
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Zppix: maybe find them in the edit history of articles on Illinois local things?:)
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2017-12-06 16:34:13
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<Zppix>
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mutante: WikiProject Illinois and we have a userbox on enwiki for Illinois residents
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2017-12-06 16:34:46
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<Zppix>
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Ill be contacting ppl thru that
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2017-12-06 16:34:54
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<Zppix>
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(And hope i can get some ppl)
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2017-12-06 16:35:08
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<mutante>
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Zppix: WikiProject :) ah, good idea, yes
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2017-12-06 16:35:14
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<mutante>
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good luck
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2017-12-06 16:35:21
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<Zppix>
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Ty
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2017-12-06 16:42:39
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<addshore>
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Such silence!
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2017-12-06 16:42:56
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<Zppix>
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Boo
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2017-12-06 16:44:08
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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I have a question. What do you guys think of the new wikitext editor with syntax highlighting?
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2017-12-06 16:44:09
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<addshore>
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tumbleweeds
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2017-12-06 16:44:14
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<addshore>
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oooh
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2017-12-06 16:44:38
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<andre__>
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again? :P
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2017-12-06 16:44:48
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<Zppix>
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What new editor xD
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2017-12-06 16:44:56
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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More precise: Are you aware of any user scripts/gadgets that already interact with it?
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2017-12-06 16:46:08
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<andre__>
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For context: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CodeMirror exists, and hence also a "Wikitext syntax highlighting" beta feature that anyone can enable
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2017-12-06 16:46:22
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<andre__>
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no idea about interaction examples though
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2017-12-06 16:48:11
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<Niharika>
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Thiemo_WMDE: wikEd "interacts" with it. i.e. everything blows up.
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2017-12-06 16:51:12
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Uh. Like intentional?
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2017-12-06 16:52:32
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<Zppix>
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Thiemo_WMDE: everyone likes explosions
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2017-12-06 16:53:05
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<Thiemo_WMDE>
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Unfortunately they disabled them on our Minecraft server. :-(
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2017-12-06 16:53:42
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<Zppix>
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Thiemo_WMDE: thats *insert choice word here*
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2017-12-06 16:57:52
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<addshore>
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Niharika: wikEd blows up whenever anything interacts with it
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2017-12-06 16:58:49
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<Niharika>
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Heh, probably.
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2017-12-06 16:59:06
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<Niharika>
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Thiemo_WMDE: No, not intentional. I don't think any gadgets that interact with it as such.
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2017-12-06 17:05:08
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<addshore>
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Well thats it!
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2017-12-06 17:05:11
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<addshore>
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until next time folks!
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2017-12-06 17:05:58
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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waves
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2017-12-06 18:59:44
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<bawolff>
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andre__: Just a heads up, I submitted some more tasks to the gci site
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2017-12-06 19:00:37
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<andre__>
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bawolff, thanks. I'll publish most and keep one or two in the back and publish later, if that's fine?
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2017-12-06 19:00:54
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<bawolff>
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Whatever you think is best
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2017-12-06 19:01:51
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<andre__>
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bawolff: heh, alright. Thanks so much for joining GCI! Very appreciated.
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2017-12-06 19:04:36
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<bawolff>
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182213 has an unknown number of instances to replace in MW core/extensions. I assume its ok to say that part of the task is that student has to find instances of the bad pattern in our code base to fix (as in, I don't have to find them all myself)
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2017-12-06 19:13:55
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<bawolff>
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I've never been a gci mentor before, so let me know if any of the tasks are inapropriate, or if I screwed it up in any way :)
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2017-12-06 19:19:37
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<Zppix>
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bawolff: its my first year too we can screw up together
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2017-12-06 19:22:52
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<andre__>
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bawolff, I've slightly edited them, like providing links for more info (what's {{SITENAME}} and such), but all in all they look very good, thanks!
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2017-12-06 19:23:10
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<andre__>
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Imagining a reader who knows nothing is hard when writing.
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2017-12-06 19:26:09
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<Zppix>
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Aint that the truth
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2017-12-06 19:32:19
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<Naeem2017>
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Hello. I've a qusetion. Is it possible for admins to remove local wikis with zero edit from (Global account information) per user request?
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2017-12-06 19:33:05
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<Zppix>
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Technically, probably, its never been done so i dont think they will do it
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2017-12-06 19:33:59
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<andre__>
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Naeem2017, you mean detaching global user accounts? Or not displaying local accounts on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Username if Edit count = 0?
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2017-12-06 19:34:05
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<andre__>
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In both cases: What's the use case?
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2017-12-06 19:34:22
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<Ryan_Lane>
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howdy. I see wikimedia is using bitergia. how do you folks feel about it? has it been useful?
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2017-12-06 19:34:36
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<Ryan_Lane>
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(also hi :D )
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2017-12-06 19:35:04
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<andre__>
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Hey Ryan_Lane !
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2017-12-06 19:35:16
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<Naeem2017>
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@Zppix: thanks for the info
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2017-12-06 19:35:49
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<Ryan_Lane>
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I mostly want it as an actionable tool. for instance, to see a list of github PRs or issues that have been opened, but not responded to
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2017-12-06 19:36:24
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<Ryan_Lane>
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or at least know which repos have the most open issues/PRs without responses
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2017-12-06 19:36:29
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<Naeem2017>
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@andre I mean from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth when any user local wiki(s) with Edit count =0
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2017-12-06 19:36:30
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<Ryan_Lane>
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(I really need to hire a community manager :D )
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2017-12-06 19:36:49
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane, it's useful for some stuff but to make it really useful (and advertise it more widely) I'm waiting for one DB sync issue to get fixed. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179820
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2017-12-06 19:37:05
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<andre__>
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e.g. we use it to get a list of new developers who provided their first patch in Gerrit
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2017-12-06 19:37:51
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<Ryan_Lane>
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is that to make sure you're responsive to their patches?
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2017-12-06 19:38:30
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<andre__>
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics is the canonical page but that's more for describing functionality and its UI, probably nothing new for you
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2017-12-06 19:38:30
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<andre__>
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no idea about GitHub as we don't use that backend in our instance
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2017-12-06 19:39:05
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<andre__>
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sighs
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2017-12-06 19:39:23
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<andre__>
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that's the long-term plan. But we're not there yet because that data is not automatically updated yet :-/
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2017-12-06 19:39:47
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<andre__>
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plus it's a custom dashboard so the maintenance level is unclear. https://wikimedia.biterg.io/app/kibana#/dashboard/C_Gerrit_Demo
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2017-12-06 19:39:52
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<Ryan_Lane>
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are you running the grimoirelab stuff yourself, or is bitergia doing it for you?
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2017-12-06 19:40:11
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<Ryan_Lane>
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I'm really hoping for something fully hosted :)
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2017-12-06 19:40:13
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<bawolff>
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omg, a wild Ryan_Lane appears :)
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2017-12-06 19:40:29
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<Ryan_Lane>
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👋
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2017-12-06 19:40:29
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane, they are hosting it for us. There is a contract between WMF and Bitergia.
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2017-12-06 19:40:33
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<Ryan_Lane>
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cool
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2017-12-06 19:40:58
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<Ryan_Lane>
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thankfully everything we have for this is public and on github, so i think it should be relatively straightforward
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2017-12-06 19:41:03
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<Naeem2017>
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@andre consider the scenario when users worngly click a local wikipedia project that they will never edit but it's listed under their Global account with Info fo no particular reason
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2017-12-06 19:41:23
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane: I have admin rights (and Quim as a fallback) so in theory we could do wild things (if we manage to find time to understand things a bit more)
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2017-12-06 19:41:43
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<Ryan_Lane>
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andre__: do you have any docs on metrics you're actively wanting to track/move?
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2017-12-06 19:41:44
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<andre__>
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Naeem2017, and the issue created by that is...?
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2017-12-06 19:42:18
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<Ryan_Lane>
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I have metrics I know right now I want to move, but it's always good to see what others are doing :)
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2017-12-06 19:42:18
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane, currently the most important ones we focus on are more or less listed in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration/Metrics#Onboarding_New_Developers
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2017-12-06 19:42:49
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<Ryan_Lane>
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awesome :)
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2017-12-06 19:43:38
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<Naeem2017>
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andre, a lenghty information page with zero edits local wikis. I see the info page should focus on the actual wikis with contributions except of course login wiki
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2017-12-06 19:43:47
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane: I mean, there are enough ideas around. The usual problem is "what makes sense". :P And that's the hard part... https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/chaoss/start and https://chaoss.community/ are related.
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2017-12-06 19:44:12
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<andre__>
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Naeem2017, sort the table by "Edit count". One click - problem solved.
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2017-12-06 19:44:43
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane: I usually track everything related to wikimedia.biterg.io on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/analytics-tech-community-metrics/ but that's a wild mix of many different things.
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2017-12-06 19:44:53
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<Ryan_Lane>
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cool :)
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2017-12-06 19:45:26
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<Ryan_Lane>
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at this point I'm mostly just trying to see what our current community looks like across our projects, and I know we have a problem with responsiveness, so that's what I'm focused on
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2017-12-06 19:45:51
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<Ryan_Lane>
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need to make the community healthy before I can grow it :)
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2017-12-06 19:46:28
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<Ryan_Lane>
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thanks for the help!
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2017-12-06 19:46:46
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<andre__>
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Ryan_Lane: you're very welcome! Always nice to see you around! :)
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2017-12-06 19:47:01
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<mutante>
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Hauskatze: your bold change to bolden the phab comments .. is deployed now
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2017-12-06 19:47:43
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<mutante>
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Hauskatze: check if ticket can be resolved?:)
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2017-12-06 19:47:43
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<Naeem2017>
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andre. Thank you for your help. My point is about the logic of the page not a problem, it is an idea which I don't know where to post, so I thought to share it here.
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2017-12-06 19:48:14
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<Hauskatze>
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mutante: doing that, thanks.
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2017-12-06 19:48:37
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<mutante>
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Hauskatze: yw and nice nick, schnurr
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2017-12-06 19:48:54
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<Hauskatze>
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mutante: please note that I scheduled that for tomorrows Puppet SWAT so if that's already done I can remove that from the Deployments page.
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2017-12-06 19:49:02
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<Hauskatze>
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Danke :D
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2017-12-06 19:49:32
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<mutante>
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Hauskatze: well, i ran puppet on cobalt (gerrit prod) but i did not do anything else to "its-phabricator" or somehting
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2017-12-06 19:49:36
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<andre__>
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Naeem2017: basically https://mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug but as I said, I don't see a problem description, just one potential solution to an undefined problem, and I already offered an existing solution :P
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2017-12-06 19:49:37
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<mutante>
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paladox: ^ ?:)
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2017-12-06 19:50:03
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<Hauskatze>
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mutante: T172161#3817654 is working as expected
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2017-12-06 19:50:03
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<stashbot>
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T172161: Integrate 'Related Changes' tools into the new UX - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172161
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2017-12-06 19:50:15
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<Hauskatze>
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so I guess I'll close as resolved and wait for the complaints
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2017-12-06 19:50:27
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<mutante>
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Hauskatze: :)
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2017-12-06 19:50:34
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<mutante>
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exactly!:)
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2017-12-06 19:50:53
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<mutante>
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it's so literally "be bold"
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2017-12-06 19:52:39
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<Hauskatze>
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be bold in boldening gerritbot
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2017-12-06 19:53:40
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<Naeem2017>
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andre__ : Thanks. I'll check the link you mentioned. I appriciate your help. Have a nice day :)
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2017-12-06 19:54:05
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<andre__>
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Naeem2017, you too :)
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2017-12-06 21:03:42
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<legoktm>
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addshore: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-testextension-hhvm-jessie/25164/console CI is still using the build?
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2017-12-06 22:03:26
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<Oflameo>
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I just saw the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting Thread, but I am 174 hours late.
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2017-12-06 22:04:06
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<Oflameo>
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I am building a directory on mediawiki at https://www.cyanpages.info.
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2017-12-06 22:07:23
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<Oflameo>
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It is a directory of all of the contact information and responsiblities of every office in municipal government with an extendable convient mediawiki interface.
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2017-12-06 22:10:33
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<Oflameo>
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I am having trouble trying to make the data hierarchical and naming pages uniquely.
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2017-12-06 22:14:52
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<bawolff>
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Might be a case where semantic mediawiki would be useful
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2017-12-06 22:15:06
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<bawolff>
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or wikibase even
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2017-12-06 22:15:59
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<bawolff>
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Oflameo: you are not late, just really early for the next one!
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2017-12-06 22:16:40
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<Oflameo>
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It may be possible that semantic mediawiki would be useful but I never seen it in action. I don't know what to expect.
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2017-12-06 22:17:45
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<bawolff>
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I dont know much about it either, it just sounded like something that might be a good fit
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2017-12-06 22:18:08
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<Oflameo>
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There is one exception. The Free Software Directory is said to use it. https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page
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2017-12-06 22:19:31
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<Oflameo>
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I did email RMS about the project and the fact that it was using Mediawiki but he didn't say anything about semantic mediawiki.
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2017-12-06 22:21:03
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<bawolff>
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The semantic mediawiki community is rather separate from the vanilla mediawiki community. The two groups dont talk to each other that much
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2017-12-06 22:21:52
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<bawolff>
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mediawiki tends to be best with mostly unstructured data, with maybe organization provided by loose collection of categories
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2017-12-06 22:22:56
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<bawolff>
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once you get into worrying about unique page names and hierarchy, semantic mediawiki, pageforms, cargo type extensions may be the thing to look into
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2017-12-06 22:23:52
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<bawolff>
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if you want fully structured with very little free form, id reccomend wikibase (http://wikiba.se ) which is the software powering wikidata.org
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2017-12-06 22:27:06
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<Oflameo>
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I have a project that should work well with vanilla mediawiki. It is at https://www.bmablacklist.com/index.php/Main_Page. Each document will be a company and their terms of service.
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2017-12-06 22:27:15
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<addshore>
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legoktm: yes, we should fox that
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2017-12-06 22:27:22
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<addshore>
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For mediawiki and extensions
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2017-12-06 22:27:34
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<addshore>
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I put a patch up for extensions earlier, but forgot about core tests.....
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2017-12-06 22:27:47
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<addshore>
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Not at a laptop right now
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2017-12-06 22:33:07
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<Oflameo>
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bawolff I think I will see how far I can go today with mediawiki and then email all three extention developers and ask them how they would do if they were in my position.
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2017-12-06 22:55:51
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<paladox>
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mutante it should restart in gerrit automatically so gerrit dosent need a restart :)
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2017-12-06 22:56:37
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<mutante>
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"it" = icinga ?
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2017-12-06 22:56:52
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<mutante>
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the keyword for that is "event handlers"
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2017-12-06 22:57:02
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<mutante>
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icinga can run any command you want after a state change on any check
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2017-12-06 22:57:26
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<mutante>
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but that's probably not good for prod
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2017-12-06 22:59:00
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<paladox>
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mutante not sure what you mean?
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2017-12-06 22:59:49
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<mutante>
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paladox: not sure what _you_ mean then :)
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2017-12-06 23:00:03
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<mutante>
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you said something should restart gerrit
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2017-12-06 23:00:06
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<paladox>
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I was answering your question way up in the backscroll
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2017-12-06 23:00:08
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<mutante>
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and earlier you pasted an icinga-wm line
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2017-12-06 23:00:10
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<mutante>
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from somehwere
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2017-12-06 23:00:21
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<paladox>
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heh i pasted that in a pm :)
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2017-12-06 23:00:23
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<mutante>
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that wasnt prod
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2017-12-06 23:00:32
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<paladox>
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that's me testing chad's gerrit upgrade change.
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2017-12-06 23:00:48
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<paladox>
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but i was answering your its-phabricator question in the backscroll
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2017-12-06 23:01:02
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<mutante>
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paladox: oh, i see now, that's been a couple hours :) thanks
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2017-12-06 23:01:08
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<paladox>
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around 19:46p,
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2017-12-06 23:01:10
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<paladox>
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yeh
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2017-12-06 23:01:11
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<paladox>
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heh
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2017-12-06 23:01:15
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<mutante>
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about 30 things since then :)
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2017-12-06 23:01:19
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<mutante>
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sorry
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2017-12-06 23:01:21
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<paladox>
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heh
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