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2019-12-11 02:51:40
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<Baylee>
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hi, where would I complain about an issue with https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ ?
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2019-12-11 02:52:29
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<Baylee>
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I got a notification email from it, and after I logged in, its just giving me a 500 error
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2019-12-11 03:05:17
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<Squox>
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anyone awake? The MediaWiki channels are silent
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2019-12-11 03:15:27
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<AntiComposite>
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Possibly, what's up?
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2019-12-11 03:15:59
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<Squox>
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I'm getting this error when running rebuildall.php:
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2019-12-11 03:16:19
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<Squox>
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Error from line 226 of /home/nchakdhb/lostjewel/extensions/Scribunto/engines/LuaCommon/LuaCommon.php: Class 'ScopedCallback' not found
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2019-12-11 03:38:26
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<Squox>
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AntiComposite, turns out I had an outdated Scribunto
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2019-12-11 09:40:42
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Will the discussion hold today?
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2019-12-11 09:47:46
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<apergos>
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which discussion? the technical advice session? it should
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2019-12-11 10:27:49
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<HAKSOAT1>
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@apergos Yes. The technical advice session. Thanks.
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2019-12-11 10:36:12
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<rob-to86>
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Hello. :) I have an issue when using Wikipedia in Safari 11.1.2 (newest version that runs on my Mac): The "Safari Networking" process takes up a lot of CPU. This doesn't seem to happen with other websites.
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2019-12-11 10:36:12
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<rob-to86>
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I have cleared cache, uninstalled extensions and disabled plugins. No change…
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2019-12-11 10:37:02
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<rob-to86>
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Is this the right place to ask for help with this issue?
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2019-12-11 11:03:17
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<apergos>
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it's as good as any, yes, but it's not one I've heard before
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2019-12-11 11:03:22
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<apergos>
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are you a logged in user?
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2019-12-11 11:03:27
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<apergos>
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on wikipedia I mean
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2019-12-11 12:17:28
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<rob-to86>
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apergos: Sorry for the late reply. Yes, I am. The issue is making my contributions painful.
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2019-12-11 12:18:18
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<rob-to86>
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There is a delay of a few seconds perhaps a page loads.
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2019-12-11 13:24:36
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<apergos>
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rob-to86: if you are an anonymous user in the same browser going to the same page, what happens?
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2019-12-11 13:34:02
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<rob-to86>
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apergos: Good idea. Much better then.
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2019-12-11 13:34:24
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<rob-to86>
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apergos: Could https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Robby.is.on/common.js be to blame?
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2019-12-11 13:34:27
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<apergos>
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that means it's likely to be a preference or a gadget or some piece of javascript that you've got turned on
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2019-12-11 13:34:34
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<apergos>
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it could
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2019-12-11 13:34:47
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<apergos>
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you'll have to suss out which thing it is by turning them off one by one
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2019-12-11 13:34:55
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<rob-to86>
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Thanks. :)
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2019-12-11 13:35:00
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<apergos>
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good luck!
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2019-12-11 15:00:22
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @James_F - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-12-11 15:50:21
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<wm-bot>
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Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Lucas_WMDE - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting
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2019-12-11 15:57:48
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<James_F>
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waves.
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2019-12-11 15:58:03
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<James_F>
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I'm here to answer questions and help out with whatever.
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2019-12-11 16:00:52
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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ok, cool! so am I :)
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2019-12-11 16:04:19
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<HAKSOAT1>
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James, any idea if Wikimedia will apply for GSoC 2020?
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2019-12-11 16:05:50
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<James_F>
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HAKSOAT1: I think it's very likely, yes.
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2019-12-11 16:06:06
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<James_F>
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We've done GSoC for many years now, and it's always been a brilliant programme.
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2019-12-11 16:06:38
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<James_F>
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It does rely on their being interesting things to do, so there's a need for colleagues to participate, but they generally do it very well.
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2019-12-11 16:07:40
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Okay. Great.
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2019-12-11 16:10:15
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<HAKSOAT1>
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How do you advice I get familiar with a code base? So I have some experience, but all of it has been with code bases where I was part of it from the beginning.
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2019-12-11 16:11:04
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Hence, I'm kind of struggling a bit here. Thousands of lines of code and I don't know where to start from. How to even think about testing a code change. A bit overwhelming.
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2019-12-11 16:11:11
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<James_F>
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nods.
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2019-12-11 16:11:28
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<James_F>
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What area are you interested in changing? Different areas have different strategies to get into.
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2019-12-11 16:11:50
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<pavithraes>
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James_F: May I also try to answer this question?
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2019-12-11 16:12:35
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<James_F>
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Sure!
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2019-12-11 16:14:30
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<HAKSOAT1>
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For example, with the Pywikibot project. I'm to modify a script. But I'm not running the scripts directly. Hence, I have to run a specific which I expect to in someway call the file that I am modifying. It looks to me like I need to understand how the original file works first, before I move to the file that concerns me.
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2019-12-11 16:14:53
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<HAKSOAT1>
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*run a specific file which I expect...
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2019-12-11 16:16:34
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<James_F>
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HAKSOAT1 Ah, yeah, pywikibot. That's a very large codebase that I don't know well, I'm afraid.
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2019-12-11 16:17:26
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<James_F>
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My general recommendation is to get it running locally as a test on somewhere you don't mind if it breaks (so, not trying to edit the "real" wiki you want to change :-)) and then making small changes to see what happens.
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2019-12-11 16:19:13
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<James_F>
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HAKSOAT1: Sorry that's not very specific!
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2019-12-11 16:19:22
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<James_F>
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pavithraes: Is there something you wanted to add?
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2019-12-11 16:21:33
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Okay. I think that'll work. Will give me the chance to play around, without affecting the original clone. (:-D original clone sounds paradoxical)
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2019-12-11 16:21:46
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<James_F>
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grins.
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2019-12-11 16:24:48
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Thanks for the insight. I think pavithraes was going to say something.
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2019-12-11 16:25:14
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<pavithraes>
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Hi, yes. (I had network issues on my end.) So, I'm not sure how familiar HAKSOAT1 is with the general contribution process and software used.
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2019-12-11 16:26:47
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<HAKSOAT1>
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I'm not very familiar yet.
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2019-12-11 16:28:48
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<HAKSOAT1>
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But I understand how Phabricator works. Then I understand how Gerrit works a little bit.
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2019-12-11 16:29:58
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<pavithraes>
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Oh alright. :)
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2019-12-11 16:31:47
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<pavithraes>
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As a past participant (different open source initiative), I just wanted to add that a good starting point is understanding the contribution process. If you want, I can point you to some getting started docs.
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2019-12-11 16:31:57
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<James_F>
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nods.
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2019-12-11 16:32:02
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<HAKSOAT1>
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I'll appreciate that.
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2019-12-11 16:32:21
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<James_F>
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HAKSOAT1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker might help, though is specific to MediaWiki.
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2019-12-11 16:32:31
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<James_F>
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Not sure if the pywikibot community has its own documentation.
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2019-12-11 16:32:44
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<pavithraes>
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers
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2019-12-11 16:36:16
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Yeah. I've gone through these. More like skimmed though. But I'll give them a thorough read after the meeting.
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2019-12-11 16:36:51
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<James_F>
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Great.
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2019-12-11 16:36:56
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<James_F>
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Any other questions?
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2019-12-11 16:38:08
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<pavithraes>
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HAKSOAT1: Also, have you started with any task yet?
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2019-12-11 16:39:07
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<HAKSOAT1>
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I'm looking to commence one very soon.
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2019-12-11 16:40:13
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<HAKSOAT1>
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But I've pinpointed tasks I want to work on. I'll make my contributions as soon as I understand the tasks well enough to implement a change.
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2019-12-11 16:43:47
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<James_F>
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Excellent. Welcome!
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2019-12-11 16:45:38
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<pavithraes>
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Awesome! All the best! (Sidenote: Documenting this process might be useful for your final proposal. =D )
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2019-12-11 16:46:22
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<HAKSOAT1>
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Great. Thanks for attending to my questions.
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2019-12-11 16:49:31
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<Lucas_WMDE>
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does anyone else have questions? :)
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2019-12-11 16:51:00
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<Erutuon>
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I do
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2019-12-11 16:51:06
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<James_F>
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Fire away.
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2019-12-11 16:51:59
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<Erutuon>
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I created a Wikimedia developer account in order to use Toolforge, but forgot my password. Is there any way to recover it, or remove the account and create a new one using the same Wikimedia account?
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2019-12-11 16:52:13
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<James_F>
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Did you set an e-mail when you created the account?
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2019-12-11 16:52:38
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<Erutuon>
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Yes
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2019-12-11 16:52:43
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<James_F>
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If yes, you should be able to go to https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset and get it reset.
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2019-12-11 16:53:46
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<Erutuon>
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Okay, trying that now
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2019-12-11 16:57:35
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<James_F>
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Erutuon: Did it work?
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2019-12-11 16:58:11
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<Erutuon>
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So far no response.
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2019-12-11 16:59:34
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<James_F>
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Sorry to hear that.
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2019-12-11 16:59:34
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<Erutuon>
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After I submitted on the password reset page, it says "if this email address is associated with your account, then a password reset email will be sent", but I'm not sure what account it's referring to since I don't have a Wikitech account.
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2019-12-11 17:00:39
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<Erutuon>
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In case it's unclear, I'm trying to recover an account I set up with https://toolsadmin.wikimedia.org/register/
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2019-12-11 17:01:00
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<James_F>
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Oh, that thing.
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2019-12-11 17:01:26
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<Erutuon>
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Not sure if I'm asking in the right place.
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2019-12-11 17:01:28
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<James_F>
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Maybe that didn't set your e-mail correctly.
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2019-12-11 17:02:13
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<Erutuon>
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That's possible; I never got an email.
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2019-12-11 17:08:01
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<Erutuon>
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So when I press "Login using your Wikimedia account" it says "Wikimedia account already in use". I may have to create an alternative Wikimedia account and create a new Wikimedia developer account from that, but it'd be great to avoid that.
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2019-12-11 17:08:40
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<James_F>
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Right. I'm not sure how that tool works; perhaps bd808 as the expert will know what to advise?
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2019-12-11 17:10:36
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<bd808>
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Erutuon: If you want to open a phabricator task, I can poke at it next week when I'm back from holiday. The "Wikimedia account already in use" message means that some Developer account has already been linked with your SUL account using that tool.
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2019-12-11 17:11:12
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<bd808>
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We may need to manually "attach" your developer account to wikitech to make password resets work for you
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2019-12-11 17:11:25
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<bd808>
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has an open bug about that somewhere
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2019-12-11 17:12:51
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<Erutuon>
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Okay, I'll open a task.
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2019-12-11 17:13:33
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<bd808>
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I can probably get the attach done sooner rather than later. That is pretty easy for me to do once I have your username
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2019-12-11 17:13:55
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<bd808>
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If things are more deeply messed up I probably won't get to that until next week
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2019-12-11 17:14:24
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<Erutuon>
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Actually, I'm not entirely sure what to ask for in the task: a way to retrieve my WM developer account? Is it a bug or a feature request?
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2019-12-11 17:18:04
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<James_F>
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Erutuon: Sounds like a bug to me.
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2019-12-11 17:18:59
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<bd808>
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Erutuon: yeah, its a bug. The task can be pretty boring. T197612 was a similar thing, so something like that can get us started.
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2019-12-11 17:19:00
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<stashbot>
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T197612: Attach Developer Account to Wikitech, to enable Reset password - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197612
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2019-12-11 17:22:38
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<Erutuon>
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Ahh, okay. I'll add a mention of that task.
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2019-12-11 17:26:06
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<Erutuon>
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T240478
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2019-12-11 17:26:07
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<stashbot>
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T240478: Way to retrieve Wikimedia developer account for Toolforge - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240478
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2019-12-11 20:11:27
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<ebernhardson>
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whats the best practice around deprecating return values? So a function in core calls something, gets a (now, post deprecation) invalid return value. wfDeprecated takes a function, version, component, callerOffset. But i don't really know what component provided the implementation, and it's no longer on the call stack so $callerOffset is invalid
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