[04:12:43] <TimStarling>	 		$popts->enableLimitReport( !$params['disablepp'] );
[04:13:07] <legoktm>	 API doesn't allow boolean parameters that are default true, so they're all "disablefoo"
[04:13:31] <TimStarling>	 it's the "pp" bit that is making me say wtf
[04:13:37] <TimStarling>	 "apihelp-parse-param-disablepp": "Disable the PP Report from the parser output.",
[04:13:50] <TimStarling>	 as if whoever introduced this parameter didn't know what PP stood for
[04:14:16] <TimStarling>	 I mean, it is the limit report, not the PP report
[04:14:53] <TimStarling>	 I just put NewPP in there so that its output could be distinguished from the one generated by the pre-MW 1.12 parser
[04:15:31] <TimStarling>	 there was a transition period where you could select which parser you wanted to use
[04:15:51] <TimStarling>	 that's why it is enableLimitReport(), not enablePPReport()
[04:16:42] <legoktm>	 ah
[04:16:42] <legoktm>	 lol
[04:16:42] <legoktm>	 gitblame points to Reedy
[04:16:58] <legoktm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/70450
[04:19:44] <TimStarling>	 I need to make a batch parse interface of some description
[04:20:45] <TimStarling>	 I was hoping to be able to put it in an extension but I'm not sure if that is feasible
[04:22:00] <TimStarling>	 maybe I should just make a new module instead of overloading the two current parser modules
[04:23:16] <TimStarling>	 input format probably needs to be JSON, since that is fashionable
[04:23:33] <TimStarling>	 in an extension I might have had the flexibility to choose it
[04:27:19] <TimStarling>	 legoktm: do you remember any talk about a generic API batch interface, maybe at lyon?
[04:27:58] <TimStarling>	 I couldn't find any documents talking about such a thing
[04:29:39] <legoktm>	 TimStarling: I remember talking about it and a lua thing, I don't know if we took any notes...
[04:29:53] <legoktm>	 TimStarling: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/api.php
[04:30:53] <TimStarling>	 ah yes, thanks
[04:33:45] <TimStarling>	 it would be better to avoid a lua dependency in this case, if the idea is to support all wikis that parsoid supports
[04:40:56] <TimStarling>	 it is daunting
[04:41:02] <TimStarling>	 maybe I should just make a new extension for it
[07:11:11] <ori>	 <TimStarling> input format probably needs to be JSON, since that is fashionable
[07:11:13] <ori>	 hahaha
[07:12:04] <ori>	 your grudge against JSON is so bizarrely intense and specific
[07:12:32] <AaronSchulz>	 ;)
[07:14:37] <ori>	 how's it going, aaron?
[07:14:53] <ori>	 i met peter in person finally, he seems great
[07:16:15] * AaronSchulz listens to some Owl City
[07:16:42] <ori>	 oh cool, haven't heard of him
[07:16:47] <ori>	 listening to 'fireflies' now
[07:17:19] <AaronSchulz>	 good choice
[07:17:25] <ori>	 oh, i know this song
[07:17:28] <ori>	 it sounds like the postal service
[07:17:34] <AaronSchulz>	 lol
[07:18:12] <ori>	 like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg
[07:18:48] <AaronSchulz>	 my chest still aches as punishment for having come back to the gym after months of laziness
[07:20:20] <ori>	 don't overdo it!
[07:20:33] <AaronSchulz>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGEyqP0744c
[07:20:51] <ori>	 yeah that's a good song
[07:23:36] * AaronSchulz awaits more cat ears
[07:25:09] <AaronSchulz>	 Etsy can be addictive you know
[07:27:02] <ori>	 they have a great performance engineering team, by the way
[07:27:28] <ori>	 https://codeascraft.com/2015/07/13/q2-2015-site-performance-report/
[07:30:00] <AaronSchulz>	 yeah if I ever left here, that would be good choice probably
[07:31:30] <ori>	 yeah it's a nice place to work at
[07:31:41] <ori>	 they have a very gorgeous office as you might expect in a nice part of brooklyn
[07:32:05] <ori>	 i still think we're cooler :P
[07:32:32] <ori>	 but the quarterly site performance report is totally something we should do
[08:11:18] <TimStarling>	 did you know JSON.stringify() can't be used to generate JavaScript code fragments containing arbitrary strings?
[08:12:47] <TimStarling>	 there are two unicode characters that it screws up, and PEG.js uses both of them in its example parser to parse JavaScript code
[08:13:29] <TimStarling>	 I wonder if there is something that it is actually good for
[13:17:45] <anomie>	 TimStarling: "batch parse interface", as in passing multiple fragments to be parsed individually? I've been trying to think of a good generic way to support multi-value in the API when the values might contain '|', for parse/expandtemplates since you mentioned it once before, and for action=options, and maybe for other params too. Options include: PHP foo[] syntax or some variation, fookeys=foo1|foo2|foo3&foo1=…1…&foo2=…2…&fo
[13:17:45] <anomie>	 o3=…3…, or fooseparator=🙌&foo=…1…🙌…2…🙌…3…. I don't much like JSON blobs as input parameters to the API since it leads to a single parameter with documentation that boils down to "pass an undocumented JSON blob here".
[14:26:41] <anomie>	 MatmaRex: What's a good way to locally load the latest oojs-ui in MW, instead of waiting for +2s and releases?
[14:27:29] <James_F>	 anomie: Once you've built it in the OOUI repo, you can just `cp -r dist/` it to MW core's resources/lib/oojs-ui
[14:27:37] <MatmaRex>	 anomie: run `grunt build, then copy entire oojs/ui/dist directory over to resources/lib/oojs-ui
[14:27:45] <anomie>	 Thanks!
[14:27:46] <James_F>	 anomie: (If you're just after JS; if you need the PHP too, you need to add to /vendor.)
[14:28:05] <MatmaRex>	 anomie: do not remove the additional JSON files that are there, or copy them from oojs/ui/src/somethingsomething
[14:28:33] <MatmaRex>	 (oojs/ui/src/themes/mediawiki)
[14:28:36] <anomie>	 Yeah, now that https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/216909/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/224966/ exist I'm going to look at having my WIP ApiSandbox code use them.
[14:29:34] <MatmaRex>	 anomie: the script used for the regular updates is /maintenance/resources/update-oojs-ui.sh , perhaps we should extract the middle part which does that actual copying to something standalone.
[14:30:00] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Not before we fix it.
[16:01:20] <ori>	 AaronSchulz: Aaron Schulz (talk | contribs)‏‎ (edit filter manager, administrator) (Created on 15 July 2005 at 19:05)
[16:01:39] <ori>	 AaronSchulz: happy wikipedia decennary
[17:22:12] <AaronSchulz>	 legoktm: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/225012/2
[17:25:04] <legoktm>	 AaronSchulz: is that class already using the WAN stuff?
[17:25:20] <AaronSchulz>	 yes, that's the problem
[17:25:29] <AaronSchulz>	 it has for some time
[17:25:35] <legoktm>	 +2'd
[17:33:12] <AaronSchulz>	 legoktm: I guess there is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/225013/ while at it
[18:02:57] <legoktm>	 AaronSchulz: will the cache key change?  
[18:06:41] <AaronSchulz>	 legoktm: indirectly, yes, via a prefix
[18:19:53] <legoktm>	 AaronSchulz: so how is that going to work with two wmf branches? do we need to deploy it specially?
[18:23:56] <AaronSchulz>	 legoktm: it can delete both, though I missed a spot in invalidateCache()
[18:25:05] <AaronSchulz>	 actually that should just wrap quickInvalidateCache anyway
[18:28:47] * AaronSchulz updates
[19:36:14] <ori>	 SMalyshev: http://www.amazon.com/Graph-Databases-Opportunities-Connected-Data/dp/1491930896
[19:36:34] <ori>	 (just published, I found out about it via http://anynewbooks.com/)
[19:54:25] <MatmaRex>	 anomie: alright, i just finished with things i had half-done and recent breakages, and now i'll finally do some of the things you need me to do. which do you want first? :D i'll grab a dinner, and then do that.
[19:55:50] <anomie>	 MatmaRex: Either https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/216909/ or https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/224966/, I'll need both to get ApiSandbox moving.
[19:56:36] <SMalyshev>	 ori: thanks!
[19:58:20] <SMalyshev>	 ori: judging by mentioning Cypher, it's probably Neo4j-oriented, but still can be interesting 
[21:41:15] <AaronSchulz>	 ostriches: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/224735/
[23:24:51] <MatmaRex>	 anomie: i dumped another load of comments on the capsule patch. that's it from me for today, good night :)