[13:46:21] ostriches: Is it safe now to merge stuff into master and it won't accidentally be backported to 1.26? [13:47:20] legoktm: That's what you get for deciding something urgently needs announcing at 6:30pm my time q: [13:48:22] anomie: yes [14:18:53] bd808, tgr|away: So what you're both saying on 242048 is that we don't care if basically-equivalent classes have different styles of usage? [16:14:28] snarky robla is snarky :) [16:47:00] :-) [16:55:51] bd808: here's "snarky" robla circa 2003 when I was still a corporate shill for RealNetworks: http://lwn.net/Articles/42901/ [16:56:45] I found it because I was trying to look up what the name of Chris Dibona's company was when we (Real) were working with him [16:58:52] ah....Konstrux: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7207 [16:58:56] Is he still at Google? [16:59:15] yeah, I think so [17:03:02] I still have the "Golden Penguin" I won in a contest Chris emceed: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2677427/operating-systems/geeks-triumph-at-linuxworld-penguin-bowl.html [17:08:38] * robla packs up to head into the office [21:46:37] * bd808 apparently needs to find a new vps to host his bouncer :/ [21:47:06] bd808: I'd be happy to set you up with an account on my VPS, if you like [21:47:31] if you use a client certificate to authenticate yourself, then you don't need to have your password stored on my VPS, and you can revoke it if I turn evil [21:49:13] *if*? [21:49:16] :) [21:49:37] I just need to switch back to a vps provider that doesn't suck [21:50:13] I'm using a $3/mo vps and getting even less than I'm paying for [21:52:20] I like this line a lot "To constantly question the motives of good works tends to disincentivise companies like real from release more code." [21:52:24] from that link [22:28:20] * robla figures out "that link" is http://lwn.net/Articles/42901/#CommAnchor43021 [22:29:17] chasemp: yup, Chris was really helpful when I earnestly believed I could bridge the gap [22:29:59] I like to keep it vague [22:30:59] I was simultaneously trying to convince "those open source people" that Real wasn't evil and that we could have a fruitful collaboration [22:31:54] I was simultaneously trying to convince "my evil counterparts I was shilling for" that we needed to straighten up our act, and stop trying to hide everything behind clickwraps [22:33:00] that gap was a little too wide for little ol' me to bridge [22:34:57] when I got to WMF, and heard about the problems dealing with the community, all I could think of was "you think this is hard? I walked uphill both ways in snow"