[05:05:10] TimStarling: what is uprightdiff for? [05:10:45] legoktm: in the short term, it is for looking at differences in rendering caused by tidy vs html5depurate (T89331) [05:12:30] oh, neat :D [05:13:16] but I think it would be useful for browser integrated testing generally [05:13:36] have you seen README.md? [05:14:06] who reads those anyway [05:18:42] * legoktm reads [05:20:35] yeah, that does seem useful in general [05:51:53] "may be text (the default), json or none"! [05:52:00] what happened to xml?!?! [05:52:03] is tim unwell? [16:32:53] csteipp: http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/192108/chi13b.pdf "The Impact of Password Meters on Password Selection" : "We observed that the presence of meters yielded significantly stronger passwords." [16:55:24] Or, but also, "When participants created passwords for unimportant accounts, we observed no effects that could be attributable to the presence of the meters." So the question is, do people consider their wiki account to be important or not. [16:55:53] Would be really interesting to store the stats on passwords as people change them [16:58:35] the majority of Wikimedia accounts are not important [16:58:40] (IMO at least) [17:04:03] * ori nods [17:17:44] it'd be interesting to require a password change upon being promoted [18:07:29] bd808: I am unable to connect for some reason [18:07:39] did anything change about the hangout? [18:07:41] supid hangouts [18:07:57] I didn't do anything to it [18:25:14] tgr, anomie my cable modem dropped again [19:00:01] anomie: there is at least a bug about gather and MFE -- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109351 [19:05:40] Good [19:10:56] the big "make it sane" task about gather is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94782 [19:11:06] that and integration with core watchlists