[00:09:49] That's 2 of the extensions done [00:09:53] Big validator one to do.. [00:47:13] And that's Validator too [01:14:47] anomie: One of the trending errors in fatalmonitor is "Can neither load the session nor create an empty session". They all have a "Session ID already exists" previous error which makes them look like a race condition of some sort in the new session handling stuff. [01:20:31] anomie: filed as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124126 [01:20:53] * bd808 has to finish making dinner and can't look more right now [14:36:35] tgr|away: Re the OAuth question: What bd808 said for wmf10, while for wmf11 it *should* be fixed by SessionManager. [19:36:39] * anomie sends email to tell the mobile people about how their login is going to break with AuthManager. [19:41:37] the mobile people? [19:42:06] ori: The people who work on mobile apps. [19:45:54] anomie: Could you have a quick look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/265277/ maybe [19:46:14] Or just say what the currently preferred naming convention for extension Lua modules is [19:46:29] hoo: mw.ext.foobar, I believe. [19:46:46] Will you comment or may I quote this? [19:48:01] Feel free to quote it. It's also mentioned in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#Library [20:18:28] bd808: About? [20:18:36] Do you know where I can find fatals etc for silver/wikitech? [20:18:51] fatals should be in logstash and on fluorine [20:19:49] reedy@fluorine:/a/mw-log$ grep FormEdit fatal.log [20:19:49] reedy@fluorine:/a/mw-log$ [20:21:01] hmmm [20:21:11] I'm in a meeting but can help you look in a bit [20:21:18] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FormEdit/Tools_Access_Request is giving a 500 [20:28:41] Reedy: maybe poke around starting from this query? -- https://logstash.wikimedia.org/#dashboard/temp/AVJguVHpptxhN1XaMVEd [20:28:59] andrew changed the error.log group on silver for now [20:29:00] [Wed Jan 20 20:25:40.248032 2016] [:error] [pid 6344] [client 2001:8b0:fafa:8023:1d0e:a9f8:28a0:38de:55845] PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function formHTML() on a non-object in /srv/mediawiki/php-1.27.0-wmf.11/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutoeditAPI.php on line 933 [20:29:04] Error on master of SF [20:29:44] Niklas has already reported it [20:29:45] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124149 [21:46:27] anomie, tgr: can I help? [21:47:02] * bd808 is currently trying to get a number out of hive for action=createaccount requests [21:47:20] anomie: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/265297 looks reasonable but it won't fix the race issue, just make it from a fatal to a loss of session, right? [21:48:16] bd808: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/authentication-metrics ? [21:48:18] tgr: I don't think it's really a race issue, it's an invalidated session. See the comment on the bug. Too busy to discuss more right now. [21:49:25] tgr: I think he means the comment at -- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124126#1948609 [23:02:48] TimStarling: AMP task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124243 [23:09:04] I was about to add some people to the task that I expect to be interested, but it will be skewed toward the people I interact with regularly [23:09:17] maybe I should send an email to wikitech-l [23:28:01] robla: ^ [23:31:33] * robla reads AMP task [23:36:22] ori: you inadvertently(?) reminded me of my reason why I want to get clarity on our use of "RFC" for ArchCom. "#MediaWiki-RfC" is the more appropriate way of getting something in front of ArchCom. I don't remember what #RfC is being used for [23:36:46] anyway, on the subject of AMP, thanks for bringing that up