[00:04:27] <Debra>	 I conflate purges and null edits in my head.
[00:08:56] <AaronSchulz>	 Debra: are there specific problematic categories?
[00:10:47] <Debra>	 AaronSchulz: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Purge&namespace=14&limit=500 ? :-)
[00:10:58] <Debra>	 I dunno.
[00:11:21] <Debra>	 My guess is that what users think purging is doing there and what it is actually doing there are probably very different.
[00:21:21] <ori>	 http://99percentinvisible.org/article/user-illusion-everyday-placebo-buttons-create-semblance-control/
[00:21:29] <ori>	 maybe we need some placebo buttons
[00:22:56] <bd808>	 open category page; edit some page to add category; reload category page; freak out that the job hasn't run yet; click purge; feel smarter than the servers
[00:23:43] <bd808>	 I'm tempted to do it on wikitech every once in a while when I'm cleaning up articles in an error category
[00:26:13] <bd808>	 a lot of those seem to get the ?purge link via https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Backlog
[00:27:13] <bd808>	 that would indicate (ab)using purge to provide an up to date shared work queue
[00:27:30] <bd808>	 MW is horrible at helping with workflows
[00:58:41] <AaronSchulz>	 bd808: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/306080/ <= that method being there kept driving me crazy ;)
[00:58:57] * AaronSchulz gutting that class like a fish
[01:00:13] <AaronSchulz>	 ori: ha, I didn't notice that 90% or so of the signal buttons where bs
[01:02:37] <bd808>	 AaronSchulz: as long as you are cleaning up things that drive people crazy... do you mind changing those comments in PurgeJobUtils.php to line comments rather than random docblock comments?
[01:03:06] <AaronSchulz>	 haha, I did that somewhere else last week
[01:11:27] * bd808 -> dinner
[03:47:25] <yuvipanda>	 hey
[03:47:29] <yuvipanda>	 I'm getting errors along the lines of
[03:47:31] <yuvipanda>	 'NoUsername: Logged in on commons:commons via OAuth as YuviPanda, but expect as None'
[16:05:53] <AaronSchulz>	 anomie: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/306232/ should fix those Array bits in lock message errors
[16:06:15] <AaronSchulz>	 it's just the error handling code that's bugged
[17:39:53] <bd808>	 tgr: this patch is cherry-picked to beta -- https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/263024 -- but the version in beta doesn't match what's in gerrit
[17:47:48] <tgr>	 bd808: it was a WIP patch, I don't think either version was finished
[17:48:05] <tgr>	 just drop the one on beta if it's in the way
[17:48:24] <bd808>	 *nod* I'm just going through beta's cherry picks and trying to get them moving
[17:48:38] <bd808>	 we were up to 14 this morning
[18:34:37] <tgr>	 anomie: re scaling, have you seen that T122881 got resolved?
[18:34:38] <stashbot>	 T122881: Install XKey vmod - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122881
[18:34:54] <tgr>	 that could be a good Q2 project too
[18:35:17] <anomie>	 tgr: Yeah, although there are still a number of questions on T122867 that no one has answered.
[18:35:17] <stashbot>	 T122867: Evaluate the feasibility of cache invalidation for the action API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122867
[18:38:59] <tgr>	 it seems that they are only planning to do cache_text in Q2
[18:39:04] <tgr>	 a Q3 project then