[18:31:32] <Reedy>	 ooh
[18:31:39] <Reedy>	 first time I've seen the group expiry stuff appear
[18:59:03] <tgr>	 anomie: anything new for SoS?
[19:00:27] <anomie>	 tgr: Nothing new.
[19:29:07] <anomie>	 Reedy: Is it planned to backport your allpages change, or are we going to let it ride the train?
[19:29:23] <Reedy>	 I'm not 100% sure what to do
[19:29:33] <Reedy>	 It'd be nice to unbreak allpages
[19:29:40] <Reedy>	 Rather than making it wait till Thursday
[19:29:44] <Reedy>	 Even more so when the patch exists :)
[19:29:47] <anomie>	 I'm writing an announcement for mediawiki-api-announce about the change.
[19:29:52] <Reedy>	 <3 Thanks!
[19:30:18] <Reedy>	 It seems Jaime might have some ideas indexing wise so we can remove it again in future. But that's TBD, plus WMF deployment time etc
[19:30:29] <RainbowSprinkles>	 If we can get it into master today, I'd say backport so we can un-disable...it's a pretty major specialpage/api we've got disabled
[19:30:40] <Reedy>	 It's CR+2'd
[19:30:43] <Reedy>	 So waiting on jerkins
[19:30:48] <RainbowSprinkles>	 Ah, didn't refresh 
[19:30:48] <RainbowSprinkles>	 :)
[19:30:53] <Reedy>	 I made a revert of Hashars patch in .16, and cherry picked mine ontop
[19:31:02] <Reedy>	 So both can be CR +2'd and then just deployed in one fell swoop
[19:31:16] <RainbowSprinkles>	 Sounds good
[19:32:08] <Reedy>	 So... there's either the security window we can use (technically, it's relevant), or SWAT after that tonight
[19:32:20] <RainbowSprinkles>	 +2'd both backports
[19:32:21] <Reedy>	 Oooor, jfdi :D
[19:32:30] <RainbowSprinkles>	 Let's jfdi
[19:34:15] <Reedy>	 I wonder if this is backport worthy to release branches
[19:34:16] <RainbowSprinkles>	 Oh yay, we got a backlog in zuul right now
[19:34:27] <RainbowSprinkles>	 Reedy: I really don't think so...
[19:34:39] <RainbowSprinkles>	 *Most* wikis don't use miser mode
[19:34:52] <Reedy>	 True
[19:39:14] <anomie>	 Really, *most* of the time this isn't even a problem on our wikis. But MariaDB is making a poor plan in some cases (which caused the filing of T160916), and theoretically it could be a problem if someone tries to use it on a namespace that's filled with millions of redirects and no non-redirects or something like that.
[19:39:14] <stashbot>	 T160916: Special:AllPages disabled due to performance issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T160916
[19:40:18] <anomie>	 And the "theoretically" is good enough reason to do the changes Reedy made for miser mode.
[21:36:21] <tgr>	 anomie: should I announce the new pageview-related endpoints on mediawiki-api or is that more of a non-Wikimedia-focused list?