[00:41:09] <Esther>	 harej: Would be nice if HotCat wasn't really needed, per se.
[00:41:22] <Esther>	 Native to Commons, sure, but an invasive species?
[09:29:34] <tgr>	 harej: btw you might find T155567 interesting, it's very similar to what you are after (except that is asking for a core change, not a gadget)
[09:29:36] <stashbot>	 T155567: Make OOjs UI easier to use for gadgets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155567
[09:30:36] <harej>	 I suppose one nice thing about my gadget is "we'll handle OOjs so you won't have to"
[09:30:37] <tgr>	 (or at least asking for most of the work to be done in core so gadgets can create forms just by passing some kind of JSON descriptor)
[09:31:25] <harej>	 not just gadgets -- OOjs UI would be a lot better if there were more high level abstractions
[09:31:36] <harej>	 I say this as someone who's also used it to write an extension
[09:31:44] <tgr>	 absolutely
[09:32:04] <harej>	 Because the API is so low-level you end up just doing the same thing as everyone else through copy-paste coding – which is inane
[09:32:14] <harej>	 And then you have no idea how the thing actually works
[09:32:16] <tgr>	 so it would be nice to add those abstractions in core and then have a really simple gadget do it
[09:32:20] <harej>	 Yes
[09:33:02] <tgr>	 the task for doing that was #6 on the Developer Wishlist this year
[09:33:47] <tgr>	 which doesn't necessarily mean it gets resourced, but it's at least a starting point for convincing people to help out with it