[17:11:14] anomie: snap! [21:03:21] Krinkle: techcom? [21:03:39] ok not coming, no worries :) [22:47:40] bd808: gah, missing "use", added in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/392984/ [22:48:42] thanks AaronSchulz [22:49:00] not sure why that didn't blow up for me locally :/ [22:49:17] spotted via IDEA when I was making another patch [22:51:19] ThrottleOverride could use a bit of refactoring, but I've been trying to keep myself focused on adding missing features before playing with how the code is organized [22:52:15] It really should be namespaced and have less logic stuck in hooks and special pages [22:54:25] yeah, special pages do controller logic and model logic and presentation ;) [22:55:09] special pages make it too easy to write poorly factored code :) [23:02:55] Can anyone explain to me *why* there is so much angst and energy wasted on the Timeless skin deploy task? [23:03:20] In a world where we still have monobook how can anyone talk about the "risk" of an unmaintained skin? [23:03:23] bd808: there was some discussion in #wikimedia-tech last night about it [23:04:08] the tl;dr was that they felt that was ru.wp tech admins they have the extra burden of supporting all skins, regardless of which one is default or not [23:04:26] I ... ok [23:05:35] I mean I get it. helping in Toolforge would be easier if we picked a desktop OS and didn't help anyone who used a different one [23:05:45] but that's hyperbolic [23:08:07] bd808: the throttle_override table is super rarely changed right? [23:12:16] AaronSchulz: we don't know :) but I would expect something like 1 records a week added/deleted honestly [23:14:03] git log wmf-config/throttle.php ? [23:14:05] the point of this extension (at least for the Wikimedia wikis) is to replace https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/master/wmf-config/throttle.php [23:14:18] Also I think once we make this easy to use it's going to get used a lot more often [23:16:52] Yeah, it should be more used. But I would expect that it isn't like a row per second or anything. Maybe more reasonably a row per day. [23:37:35] * anomie wonders what the threshold is for triggering T151089