[00:01:21] note: our tiles (or any OSM based tiles) can't be used as a drop-in rpelacement for WikiMiniAtlas because it uses a weird projection [00:01:54] bd808: ^ [00:02:31] that's "fun" [00:02:51] does it use a weird project on purpose, or by accident? [00:03:34] it's so old that it predates... uhm, everything [00:03:40] *nod* [00:03:55] MaxSem: So it "just" needs the WMA code to be changed to the new projection? [00:04:27] the hope was that Kartographer would replace WMA, not that our tileserver would serve as a backend for it [00:05:21] Oh, sure. But for wikis that are switching slowly, that would let us save lots of Cloud time/space. [00:05:37] Avoiding making perfect the enemy of good and all that. [00:05:44] James_F: there is other stuff in addition to OSM-style tiles [00:05:53] can't easily migrate it [00:05:59] my big fear is always that the thing will crash and nobody will know how to fix it [00:06:17] the disk space is a minor thing in the big picture [00:06:26] * James_F nods. [00:06:30] Fair. [00:07:13] also... it's wide open to the internetz and so likely the majority of the traffic is serving tiles to random iOS apps [00:07:25] bd808: for tiles.wmflabs.org, you can even ping me (though I'm a mod_tile noob). for WMA... uh [00:07:39] bd808: They can switch to maps.wikimedia.org pretty easily. [00:07:48] or just go to hell [00:08:11] Well, start with tile fetching being broken, result in switching. :-) [00:08:15] yeah, I'm ot lobbying *for* the direct link abuse [00:08:36] just always a bit worried that a new thing will swamp it out [00:08:56] using an NFS share as a durable cache is in itself not so awesome [00:09:50] Yeah. We're no longer the number one Pokemon map supplier in the world, AIUI? [00:10:01] it also supports Ceph (which nobody has ever used cuz it was written for us and a month later we decied that Ceph sucks and ditched it) [00:10:30] :-D [00:11:01] I'm hoping to build a ceph cluster in FY18/19 for Toolforge, but it won't be as big as that tile server would want based on their NFS usage [03:11:09] MaxSem: thanks, I think we're getting pretty close to being able to upgrade PHPUnit [03:11:29] weee [03:11:40] you have test failures btw [03:12:20] yeah, I'm looking into those [03:52:59] legoktm: did the change at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/363531/ [03:53:01] as suggested [03:58:22] +1'd