[00:42:53] <James_F>	 MaxSem: Now you need to release a new version of avro-php.
[04:59:38] <Krinkle>	 Today I learned about lcg_value() in PHP.
[04:59:53] <Krinkle>	 Seems quite similar in use to how we often use mt_rand(0,x)=0 etc for sampling. But maybe better?
[05:00:34] <Krinkle>	 Found in https://github.com/census-instrumentation/opencensus-php/blob/v0.3.0/src/Trace/Sampler/ProbabilitySampler.php
[15:02:43] <AryehGregor>	 Why do we not ship with any skins in git?  It would be helpful for testing to have at least one skin available by default.
[15:03:38] <paladox>	 AryehGregor vector was moved out many years ago
[15:03:49] <paladox>	 so that you have to clone the skin you want
[15:04:02] <AryehGregor>	 Why, though?
[15:21:11] <paladox>	 I carn't remeber the reason as it was around 1.23
[16:39:29] <legoktm>	 the main reason was to ensure that "core" skins aren't reaching too far into core, and give non-core skins all the same functionality
[16:39:30] <legoktm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Separating_skins_from_core_MediaWiki
[16:40:33] <paladox>	 legoktm heh he left
[16:46:20] <no_justification>	 legoktm: You could make a decent argument for Vector as a submodule on master, though
[16:47:14] <no_justification>	 Although I kinda wanted all bundled extensions & skins to be submodules tbh
[16:47:28] <no_justification>	 Also! We should remove Monobook from bundling
[16:48:00] <legoktm>	 why monobook?
[16:48:46] <legoktm>	 Because MonoBook was the old default, I know of a few sites that implemented "skins" as custom CSS on top of it
[16:49:06] <no_justification>	 Fair enough. Modern and CologneBlue tho?
[16:49:08] <legoktm>	 cologneblue/modern otoh...
[16:49:10] <no_justification>	 Yeah
[16:50:26] <no_justification>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/422963/
[16:51:57] * legoktm looks to see if wikiapiary has default usage stats
[16:52:12] <no_justification>	 I wonder if we could get MwPingback to report skin usage
[16:52:18] <no_justification>	 (I mean we could. Should we?)
[16:52:47] <legoktm>	 MonoBook default usage: 1998, Modern: 251, CologneBlue: 11
[16:53:43] <no_justification>	 Definitely will need a mention in the release e-mails if we do drop these
[16:56:59] <legoktm>	 I wrote a longer commit message for you :)
[17:35:44] <James_F>	 We should unbundle all but one skin, whatever it is.
[18:29:56] <James_F>	 legoktm: Do you have time to revisit https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/415834/ (PHPUnit 4+6)? PHP7 is now voting…
[18:36:20] <legoktm>	 yeah, I guess I need to figure out what's going wrong there
[18:41:45] <MaxSem>	 James_F: now let's merge each other's patches? :P
[18:42:34] <James_F>	 MaxSem: Sure, but let's wait until after Metrics.
[18:43:07] <MaxSem>	 after metrics I eat!