[08:38:05] TimStarling: should I leave comments on the talk page of your proposal? [12:39:42] <_joe_> TimStarling: yesterday when you talked about logging in php7 I thought you referred to the fact we still set display_errors to 'on' instead than to 'stderr', but I noticed we override it in mediawiki-config anyways [12:40:07] <_joe_> so I'm not sure what you were referring to yesterday regarding php7 logging [12:41:58] legoktm: yes [12:42:37] _joe_: probably nothing to do if it is just syslog [12:42:57] except make sure syslog logging is properly configured [12:43:06] <_joe_> TimStarling: I am adding a filter rule to save the output in a dedicated file right now :P [12:43:38] <_joe_> I'd like to mangle with the formatting - it's ugly right now [12:43:40] yeah, we need some way to look at the errors that come from PHP 7 [12:43:40] <_joe_> Nov 29 12:35:12 mw1261 php-fpm7.2[28236]: ool www[28236]: TEST ERROR MESSAGE PLEASE DISREGARD --joe [12:44:08] bed time now though [12:44:11] <_joe_> the good news is we can forward them to logstash easily too [12:44:13] <_joe_> yes, sorry [12:44:20] <_joe_> I didn't expect you to be around :) [14:49:09] seem actor cause some log errors when I have pushed 1.33.0-wmf.6 to all wikis [14:49:22] /rpc/RunSingleJob.php CannotCreateActorException from line 2540 of /srv/mediawiki/php-1.33.0-wmf.6/includes/user/User.php: Cannot create an actor for a usable name that is not an existing user [14:49:33] apparently solely on wiktionary projects. I have filled https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210732 [16:31:54] Hm.. my local wiki keep saying: [16:31:55] > ( ! ) Notice: Page Main_Page exists but has no (visible) revisions! [Called from WikiPage::{closure} in /var/www/mediawiki/includes/page/WikiPage.php at line 644] in /var/www/mediawiki/includes/debug/MWDebug.php on line 309 [16:32:04] Not sure what's wrong. [16:34:50] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/f64f81e64cc0ea9b428e368536b8f991b8667d9d/includes/page/WikiPage.php#L644 [16:35:05] Hm.. went away after a few refreshes, odd. [18:35:12] anomie: since no good deed goes un(appreciated|punished), I just assigned you to a couple tasks you're helping with re the train, thanks! [20:57:36] anomie: as usual thank you to have acted on the blocker and the actor related tasks :) [20:57:52] I am sorry it took me a while to find out some of the "blockers" were just due to the feature flag being changed! [20:58:01] I am done to one blocker \o/ [20:59:46] hashar: No problem. [21:02:57] err s/done/down/ [21:11:18] legoktm: MatmaRex: that poor GeoCrumbs issue is rendering me mad https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210734 :( [21:11:47] and thanks on pointing out the backtrace is borked [21:12:16] hashar: well if you want a quick fix, surely we can just wrap that function call in if($parserCache) [21:12:30] but it is confusing to me why it started happening with the new version [21:13:04] I need to dig logstash and find out whether it happened previously [21:13:06] also. looks like $parserCache is false when the relevant page doesn't exist. but in the examples i found in logstash, the pages *does* exist [21:16:52] I'm trying to find someone to co-host the Technical Advice IRC Meeting on 2018-12-05T23:00Z (15:00 PST). Anyone lurking here interested? Its kind of fun to help volunteers figure out how to get past blockers. [21:27:30] MatmaRex: thank you! [21:43:48] Uh, so when users upgrade PHP, their sessions might start throwing exceptions because they previously didn't have OpenSSL so their sessions were previously encrypted with a different cipher? [21:53:07] does the session cache key not include the cipher used? [21:54:37] MatmaRex: anomie thank you so much. Sorry for GeoCrumbs / incubator wiki, I have been puzzled and should have better investigated the issue (namely that incubator wiki was still on 1.33.0-wmf.6 ) [21:54:43] I will continue the train [22:14:17] anomie: we should turn your task replies to blog post :) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209582#4778505 is a great read [22:16:56] oh you have split it into its own task [22:16:58] great [22:17:02] thank you for the extra efforts [22:51:23] legoktm: noope :) [23:15:11] MaxSem: maybe we should :) [23:15:37] legoktm: especially in the light of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210792 [23:40:34] wow, it's really nice indeed [23:42:58] (the results of the serialization bug)