[20:47:28] <Krinkle>	 wdoran: logs are back, turns out the issue you found is indeed real.and would likely need another patch to resolve - Title::getSubpage
[20:47:32] <Krinkle>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227700#5334850 *
[21:00:15] <wdoran>	 Krinkle: Thanks I'll arrange for CPT to look into it
[22:03:23] <hauskatze>	 Krinkle: hi. Are Gadget [definition] [talk] namespaces operative?
[22:03:31] <hauskatze>	 I mean, if we put code in there, would they work?
[22:03:32] <Krinkle>	 hauskatze: they are not
[22:03:53] <Krinkle>	 It should also not be possible to create such pages.
[22:04:01] <hauskatze>	 Krinkle: ack
[22:04:09] <Krinkle>	 If you find otherwise, please file a task :)
[22:04:15] <hauskatze>	 Krinkle: the curse of being a steward is that I can create them :P
[22:04:29] <Krinkle>	 Hm.. interesting.
[22:04:40] <hauskatze>	 though I think it's because we got briefly granted the gadgets-edit priv
[22:04:42] <hauskatze>	 for testing
[22:04:51] <hauskatze>	 I think we don't have it anymore
[22:04:53] <Krinkle>	 Even without granting yourself the gadget-thingy right, or just by default through edit-protected?
[22:05:05] <Krinkle>	 oh, maybe
[22:05:06] <Krinkle>	 yeah
[22:05:11] <Krinkle>	 that seems easy to fix in that case
[22:05:13] <hauskatze>	 I'll have to log-in again to confirm
[22:05:24] <hauskatze>	 you owe me 20 bucks :P
[22:05:56] <Krinkle>	 I do?
[22:06:02] <hauskatze>	 Testing
[22:06:11] <Krinkle>	 :D
[22:06:21] <hauskatze>	 For example: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gadget:A
[22:06:25] <hauskatze>	 I don't see any [create] tab
[22:06:40] <Krinkle>	 Yeah, noone should have the 'gadgets-edit' and 'gadgets-definition-edit' rights right now
[22:06:43] <hauskatze>	 neither for Gadget_definition:A
[22:06:48] <Krinkle>	 cool
[22:06:52] <legoktm>	 hm
[22:07:11] <legoktm>	 its close to Wikimania, probably time for our annual Gadgets 2.0 sprint
[22:07:39] <hauskatze>	 Krinkle: actually https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalGroupPermissions lists 'staff' with them
[22:07:48] <hauskatze>	 just them
[22:07:52] <James_F>	 Like the annual Red Bull jumping-off-the-bridge-and-trying-to-fly event, doomed to fail? ;-)
[22:08:07] <hauskatze>	 I prefer counting Swans
[22:08:10] <hauskatze>	 ;)
[22:08:11] <Krinkle>	 James_F: that seems like a one-time event
[22:08:40] <Krinkle>	 I'd pay to see people attend multiple times though :P
[22:08:58] <James_F>	 Krinkle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Flugtag
[22:10:11] <Krinkle>	 James_F: that... wait. okay 1) it's not *as* suicidal as I thought, but not far off, 2) that's a rip off of an old Dutch show from the 70s, it was still around when I grew up.
[22:10:30] <James_F>	 Krinkle: All ideas are old. :-) 
[22:10:33] <Krinkle>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Te_land,_ter_zee_en_in_de_lucht
[22:11:04] <James_F>	 Ha.
[22:11:33] <legoktm>	 > Most competitors enter for the entertainment value, and the flying machines rarely fly at all. 
[22:11:37] <hauskatze>	 talking about shows, I've recently found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Court_(TV_series)
[22:11:45] <hauskatze>	 melikes
[22:11:52] <Krinkle>	 while [citation needed] the Dutch article about the Red Bull thing says it's a rip off.
[22:11:57] <Krinkle>	 Not that we're biased or anything
[22:12:46] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Flugtag#Cancellation/Termination_by_authorities that's something
[22:15:09] <Krinkle>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vlieg_er_eens_uit-510989.ogv
[22:15:14] <Krinkle>	 at about 1 minute, there is a "flying saucer"
[22:15:16] <Krinkle>	 amazing
[22:15:25] <Krinkle>	 Earl Grey I believe.
[22:20:19] <hauskatze>	 Krinkle: Now that I think about it, Red Bull Flugtag looks like the French Army's flying-soldier machine they showed yesterday in the parade :P
[22:20:49] <hauskatze>	 "competitors attempt to fly home-made, human-powered flying machines"