[00:38:34] When I press the down arrow key in a table the cursor moves to the next column instead of next row (i.e. the cell to the right, instead of the cell below) [00:39:32] And up goes to the left [00:57:45] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: Support formatting text styles specific projects in the formatting bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65173 (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF)) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None e.g. in wiktionary semantic classes such as "distinct feature," "usage example," "syllables," "pro... [01:00:28] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: Support formatting text styles specific projects in the formatting bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65173#c1 (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF)) This would likely be a site admin task to add the site specific styles. [01:01:42] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: Support formatting text styles specific projects in the (text styles) formatting bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65173 (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF)) [01:12:12] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: Support formatting text styles specific projects in the (text styles) formatting bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65173#c2 (10Danny B.) It would be good if the addition of the new text styles was as simple as eg. adding of new gadget definitions (instead of having to cod... [07:09:41] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Follow-up Id401d973: mw.Target: Make the "Cite" label in the toolbar translatable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132748 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [07:16:17] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Fix missing i18n for 'auto' language label [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132768 [07:16:27] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "*sighs*" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132748 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [07:16:42] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Follow-up Id401d973: mw.Target: Make the "Cite" label in the toolbar translatable [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.24wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132769 [07:16:53] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Follow-up Id401d973: mw.Target: Make the "Cite" label in the toolbar translatable [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.24wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132770 [07:18:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow-up Id401d973: mw.Target: Make the "Cite" label in the toolbar translatable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132748 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [07:23:40] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Make citation tools' compatibility check use normalized titles [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.24wmf4) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132772 [07:23:50] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Make citation tools' compatibility check use normalized titles [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.24wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132773 [08:08:03] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 032] Fix missing i18n for 'auto' language label [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132768 (owner: 10Jforrester) [08:09:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix missing i18n for 'auto' language label [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132768 (owner: 10Jforrester) [08:16:29] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (4745b44) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132774 [08:24:29] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (4745b44) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132774 (owner: 10Jforrester) [08:26:50] James_F: how would you feel about some backports on monday? :) [08:39:24] MatmaRex: See the Deployments calendar. :-) [08:42:14] James_F: you're lovely, thanks [08:42:21] * James_F grins. [08:42:29] MatmaRex: Thank *you*. :-) [08:53:23] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (1fa7b5f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132401 (owner: 10Jforrester) [08:53:36] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (4745b44) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132774 (owner: 10Jforrester) [08:55:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (1fa7b5f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132401 (owner: 10Jforrester) [08:55:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (4745b44) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132774 (owner: 10Jforrester) [09:01:40] OK, I'm ready for disappointment, but here goes: Any chance VE has some nice general-looking code for generating a form out of TemplateData? [09:01:54] marktraceur: Ish. [09:02:10] It's all ooui widgets, of course [09:02:13] marktraceur: Except we generate the form from the template invocation and add the TD hinting to it. [09:02:17] Indeed. [09:02:37] Well shitballs. [09:02:38] marktraceur: See MWTemplateModel etc. [09:02:42] Cannot ooui in UW yet. [09:02:53] What are you looking at building? [09:02:55] marktraceur: Well then, you're going to have to build from scratch, sorry. [09:02:57] I think I will write stupid-simple jQuery generic code to build the form. [09:03:01] Eww. [09:03:25] James_F: Better than not having it at all; need a higher-level decision to dump IE-old support in UW before OOUI can be useful [09:03:37] Oh, UW [09:03:40] * marktraceur thinks Eloquence has opinions on that, e.g. [09:03:58] marktraceur: Not true; we can support IE6+ in OOUI relatively easily, probably. [09:04:06] "probably" but not now [09:04:11] marktraceur: But when there's no pressure for us to get it done we'll never do it. [09:04:18] And I've heard wishy-washy opinions about doing it [09:04:29] Wishy-washy? [09:04:32] James_F: I think officially if you want UW to be OOJS-UIified, there's pressure [09:04:48] I want people to be happy. [09:04:52] Everything else is details. [09:04:56] ;-) [09:04:59] I'd also say there has been mild pressure from Multimedia but apparently that didn't translate? [09:05:14] There's already a WIP commit to OOJS-UI-ify UW isn't there? [09:05:20] Yes. [09:05:22] I don't know how ready it is since Rob moved to growth though [09:05:23] RoanKattouw: From rmoen, yeah [09:05:40] RoanKattouw: It needs Multimedia to engage. :-) [09:05:48] Which we haven't done because MMV. [09:06:10] In any case I don't think TD and OOUI should be inextricably entwined [09:06:16] So [09:06:18] They're not, currently [09:06:22] * marktraceur writes jQuery version [09:06:29] * James_F sighs at waste. [09:06:36] It just so happens that the only implementation building a form from TD is implemented using OOUI widgets [09:06:52] RoanKattouw: Not true, actually. [09:07:01] RoanKattouw: There's Moriel's jquery.ui interface. [09:07:08] Sure [09:07:12] That's ... different [09:07:14] RoanKattouw: But that's building a form /of/ TD, I guess. [09:07:15] Yeah. [09:07:17] That's for editing the TemplateData itself [09:07:21] James_F: It's my impression that this could be generally useful, and we can switch over pretty much trivially when OOUI supports IE-old [09:07:44] marktraceur: So… it's now something Multimedia /do/ want? [09:08:23] marktraceur: 'Cos the strong impression we've been receiving is that you don't like OOUI, and lack of IE support is a helpful excuse to walk away from it. [09:08:23] James_F: OK maybe I'm confused but I'm pretty sure we've asked for this for some time [09:08:32] Hrm. [09:08:36] Maybe I misread it, then :) [09:08:57] We're working on IE support, but… [09:12:22] RoanKattouw / Krinkle: How's the RL-loading-module-gated-by-a-function going? [09:13:30] (Given that that's the blocker for IE support for OOjs and starting on IE support for OOUI.) [09:17:21] James_F: We had a conversation about its architecture, agreed on a general course, Krinkle is writing it and I think is almost done with v1 [09:17:34] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/RLFuncDeps [09:17:35] Yep [09:17:42] RoanKattouw: Awesome. Krinkle: Need any help/encouragement? [09:17:54] Needs Roan or me to implement it. [09:18:36] Ha. Good buck-passing. :-P [09:31:48] James_F: 70-line function is not terrible, I'll take it [09:31:57] Just to accomplish the basic, marked-up DOM that I want [09:32:10] Well, probably some more to markup deprecated/suggested/required. [09:32:14] marktraceur: Cool. [09:36:22] And 73 lines. /me uploads unused code [09:54:15] (03PS35) 10Jforrester: Image model and the media edit dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120808 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [09:54:28] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Image model and the media edit dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120808 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [09:54:30] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "PS35 is a rebase." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120808 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [10:03:48] RoanKattouw: New worst-case example for VE: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Cbrown1023/Logos [10:22:28] (03PS36) 10Mooeypoo: Image model and the media edit dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120808 [10:49:13] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: Its possible to input a fraction value (with decimal point) in image size which results into showing wrong size in the review changes section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62756 (10James Forrester) 5ASS>3RES/FIX [13:28:58] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: Support formatting text styles specific projects in the (text styles) formatting bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65173#c3 (10James Forrester) To confirm, is this is asking for a tool to wrap selections in templates? [14:02:12] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: Support formatting text styles specific projects in the (text styles) formatting bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65173#c4 (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF)) formatting bar [16:36:59] 3VisualEditor: Don't remove DEFAULTSORTKEYS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65200 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Just don't. * https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=39429954&oldid=38515622 [16:37:12] 3VisualEditor: Don't remove DEFAULTSORT keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65200 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) p:5Unprio>3Normal [16:38:42] 3VisualEditor / 3Data Model: VisualEditor: Edit led to a DEFAULTSORT entry being removed(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65200 (10James Forrester) 5NEW>3ASS s:5normal>3major [19:49:43] 3VisualEditor / 3ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Interproject links are coloured correctly (lighter blue), but also have an external link icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33084#c5 (10James Forrester) p:5Normal>3Low s:5enhanc>3minor Updating this; since bug 37901 was fixed, the colour is now cor... [19:49:43] 3VisualEditor / 3MediaWiki integration: VisualEditor: Interproject links are coloured correctly (lighter blue), but also have an external link icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33084 (10James Forrester) [21:09:13] 3MediaWiki extensions / 3TemplateData: TemplateData: TemplateData is not available to VisualEditor if the template is a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50964#c7 (10Erik Moeller) This is still a major usability issue with templatedata as template redirects are quite common. Any update? [22:27:46] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use more standard format for displaying keyboard shortcuts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132909 [22:33:13] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use more standard format for displaying keyboard shortcuts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132909 [23:25:52] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Move shortcut keys help tool from "Page options" dropdown to "Help" popup [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/132911