[00:07:28] (03PS5) 10Alex Monk: Add a function to ElementLinearData to count all elements that aren't in internalList [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136496 [00:12:57] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Fix reference dialog apply button disabling when modifying existing reference [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136505 [00:19:01] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: [Regression wmf6] Left aligned Frameless/Basic image does not move to right upon changing the alignment to Right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65596#c8 (10ryasmeen) Verified the fix in test2 [00:41:46] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: [Regression wmf6] For a left aligned thumbnail and Frame image, unchecking the wrapping option moves it to the right side of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65617#c2 (10ryasmeen) Verified the fix in test2 [00:48:45] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: Append references list to bottom of pages when first reference is added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54906#c14 (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF)) Alex, I realized after a bit that this may have sounded like it was (angrily) directed at you rather than just general f... [01:04:11] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (418cd67) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136497 (owner: 10Catrope) [01:05:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (418cd67) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136497 (owner: 10Catrope) [01:07:17] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: [Regression wmf18] Making an image Right, Basic and Border does not include the Right and Border in the wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62852#c7 (10ryasmeen) Verified the fix in test2 [01:09:01] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: Append references list to bottom of pages when first reference is added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54906#c15 (10Alex Monk) It's fine, I'm just not convinced this is a good idea with: * the current state of {{reflist}} (or equivalent) vs. *... [01:22:16] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: "Use an existing reference" in the reference dialog button should be disabled once user enters content in the text field and re-enabled upon deleting it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65689#c4 (10ryasmeen) 5RESO/FIX>3REOP The issue 2 stated above in the b... [01:22:46] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: "Use an existing reference" in the reference dialog button should be disabled once user enters content in the text field and re-enabled upon deleting it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65689 (10ryasmeen) 5REOP>3ASSI [02:20:02] (03PS11) 10Vikassy: [BrowserTest] Adding Browser test for Headings and its screenshot elements for Language Screenshot [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135616 [02:22:12] (03PS12) 10Vikassy: [BrowserTest] Adding Browser test for Headings and its screenshot elements for Language Screenshot [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135616 [02:26:52] (03PS13) 10Vikassy: [BrowserTest] Adding Browser test for Headings and its screenshot elements for Language Screenshot [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135616 [02:36:06] (03PS14) 10Vikassy: [BrowserTest] Adding Browser test for Headings and its screenshot elements for Language Screenshot [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/135616 [04:13:01] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] [BREAKING CHANGE] Window refactor, introduction of Processes [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133193 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:13:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BREAKING CHANGE] Window refactor, introduction of Processes [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133193 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:19:44] (03PS7) 10Catrope: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update OOjs UI to v0.1.0-pre (dd888aba5c) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133194 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:20:29] (03PS8) 10Catrope: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update OOjs UI to v0.1.0-pre (dd888aba5c) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133194 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:21:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BREAKING CHANGE] Update OOjs UI to v0.1.0-pre (dd888aba5c) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133194 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:28:09] (03PS9) 10Catrope: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update OOjs UI to v0.1.0-pre (dd888aba5c) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133194 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:36:53] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] [BREAKING CHANGE] Update OOjs UI to v0.1.0-pre (dd888aba5c) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133194 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:38:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update OOjs UI to v0.1.0-pre (dd888aba5c) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133194 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:57:40] (03PS8) 10Catrope: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:58:24] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:59:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [04:59:43] (03PS9) 10Catrope: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [05:01:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [05:03:50] (03PS10) 10Catrope: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [05:05:51] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [05:07:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BREAKING CHANGE] Update VE core submodule to master (88fe25f) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133196 (owner: 10Trevor Parscal) [10:23:04] hello. is there a php part of parsoid now? after one the upgrades of a local mediawiki i lost visualeditor and now trying to restore it. [10:27:17] 3VisualEditor: VisualEditor allow creation of empty lists inside tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65970 (10Helder) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None This should not happen: https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=39042930 [13:11:28] gleki, there is a Parsoid extension [13:11:38] it was required at some point. Am not sure what the status is now [14:34:51] With the citation tool, I'm still not getting auto-filled citations, even with the TemplateData extension installed and the TemplateData information present in my citation templates. Cite tool inserts references but I have to add the fields manually, they aren't getting pulled into the dialog. Any ideas? [15:22:40] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [BREAKING CHANGE] Emit a single event from confirmation dialog (031 comment) [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/134620 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65571) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [15:26:08] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: [BREAKING CHANGE] Use promises for confirmation dialog instead of done event [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136542 [15:26:34] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Use promises for confirmation dialog instead of done event [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136543 [15:26:52] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BREAKING CHANGE] Use promises for confirmation dialog instead of done event [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136542 (owner: 10Alex Monk) [15:27:34] (03PS2) 10Alex Monk: [BREAKING CHANGE] Use promises for confirmation dialog instead of done event [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136542 [15:29:59] (03PS3) 10Alex Monk: [BREAKING CHANGE] Use promises for confirmation dialog instead of done event [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136542 [15:33:46] 3VisualEditor / 3MediaWiki integration: VisualEditor: Warns about nonexistent edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64237#c4 (10Alex Monk) In edit source mode? Is this a VE bug? [19:00:16] 3VisualEditor / 3Editing Tools: VisualEditor: "Use an existing reference" in the reference dialog button should be disabled once user enters content in the text field and re-enabled upon deleting it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65689#c5 (10Alex Monk) (In reply to ryasmeen from comment #4) > When I will... [19:24:05] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Allow swapping of existing references for others. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/136599 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65689) [19:36:46] 3VisualEditor / 3MediaWiki integration: VisualEditor: Warns about nonexistent edit conflicts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/64237#c5 (10ryasmeen) Yes, the edit conflict warning appears in the edit source mode , not in VE . [22:40:22] Heya. [22:40:54] hey [22:43:14] * James_F would say something to Krenair about not working on weekends, but… ;-) [22:43:39] I'm not working right now [22:44:16] I just noticed the #mediawiki-visualeditor tab highlighted in xchat [22:53:36] OK. And I'll ignore the OOUI code, right? ;-D [22:54:37] Oh I did some stuff earlier [23:16:27] * James_F grins. [23:49:11] Hi. I do not know whose idea was to add a tab "Advanced Settings", allow you to add the magic words into the article, but that the worst of the ideas ever implemented in the VE. [23:50:12] putnik: Hey there. [23:50:17] putnik: Why do you say that? [23:50:49] Newbies have already started to insert __INDEX__ and __NOINDEX__ into the articles. [23:51:13] They could do this before VE. [23:52:19] Krenair, newbies? How could they know about it at all? [23:52:30] putnik: Discoverability of the hidden complexities of wikitext was precisely the reason we built VisualEditor. [23:52:46] putnik, they could find it on mediawiki.org (heh) [23:52:58] And now they see that they are invited to indicate whether their article indexed by search engines. [23:52:58] putnik, but yeah, they actually could do this before. [23:53:02] putnik: That said, I'd be interested in your ideas as to how to improve the interface to make it clear that these things are for experts. [23:53:16] putnik: IME most newbies found these things out from accidentally stumbling over them. [23:53:24] putnik: That's no way to induct people into a community. [23:53:35] putnik, removing it would be a regression - VE would not be able to insert all the possible features of wikitext [23:54:16] (or rather, it wouldn't be able to insert as many possible features of wikitext) [23:54:24] Now, what might be more reasonable is a request to explain each feature better in the UI [23:54:57] James_F, Krenair, are you know at least one article (!) with __INDEX__/__NOINDEX__? [23:55:55] Or with (wtf?!) __NEWSECTIONLINK__/__NONEWSECTIONLINK__? [23:57:18] putnik, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests [23:57:25] It's not a feature for articles. But users who don't know about it will use it nevertheless. [23:57:26] putnik: Yes, there are several. Whether there /should/ be is a community, not technical, question. [23:57:53] putnik: Are there articles filled with inappropriate capital letters? Yes. That doesn't mean we shouldn't let you use "shift". [23:59:35] Actually, I can give you a list of all pages with any of those double underscore features from any given Wikimedia wiki.