[04:54:54] 3VisualEditor, VisualEditor-DataModel, VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Broken browser plugins cause cruft to be injected into the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54327#953663 (10Jay8g) [08:23:04] 3MW-RFCs, MediaWiki-Page-editing: Live preview (requires JavaScript) feature bugs (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41272#953729 (10matmarex) [08:23:05] 3MediaWiki-extensions-CodeEditor, MediaWiki-Page-editing: LivePreview: no changes reflected on preview/diff when using CodeEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78838#953727 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved [15:08:51] (03PS2) 10Divec: Native backspace and delete [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179223 [15:09:49] (03CR) 10Divec: "Patchset 2: rebase" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/179223 (owner: 10Divec) [15:10:00] (03CR) 10Divec: "Patchset 21: rebase" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177946 (owner: 10Divec) [17:30:32] Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on frwiki: https://fr.wikipedia.org/?diff=110556407 [17:30:32] Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on ruwiki: https://ru.wikipedia.org/?diff=67700039 [17:30:32] Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on plwiki: https://pl.wikipedia.org/?diff=41432313 [17:30:32] Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on itwiki: https://it.wikipedia.org/?diff=70009045 [17:30:32] Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on bgwiki: https://bg.wikipedia.org/?diff=6415951 [18:59:11] Hi there! Anybody available for some very basic questions, like how to setup a vps to run VE in our wiki? [19:01:09] 3VisualEditor: Opening an internal link with "CTRL + Left click" in a new page fails. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85622#954024 (10NemesisIII) It happens sometimes but not always on my computer, on Firefox and Chrome. It happened again today with Firefox. [19:05:28] 3OOjs-UI: Compress OOjs UI PNGs with pngcrush -brute -reduce - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76148#954036 (10Nemo_bis) [19:07:57] 3MediaWiki-Page-editing: In edit preview, show categories in their standard position relative to the parsed page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T4679#954040 (10Nemo_bis) [19:42:44] 3OOjs-UI: Initialize theme and set directionality in MediaWiki Core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85767#954056 (10ori) 3NEW [20:01:59] Daniel_01, maybe I can help [20:02:30] 3OOjs-UI, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Initialize theme and set directionality in MediaWiki Core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85767#954074 (10Krenair) [20:02:53] Great Krenair! [20:04:11] The thing is that we need a VPS and don'r know what kind of vps and how to setup and maintain it. [20:05:49] ah, you don't already have one? [20:05:58] how are you running MediaWiki? [20:41:59] 3OOjs-UI, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Initialize theme and set directionality in MediaWiki Core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85767#954077 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex [20:42:07] 3OOjs-UI, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Initialize theme and set directionality in MediaWiki Core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85767#954056 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3High [21:21:05] Krenair, it's running in a shared server. [21:21:21] ok, so you need parsoid but can't install it in the shared environment? [21:21:34] We need to move to a VPS to be able to run it [21:21:46] With Linux, Apache and so on [21:21:51] yeah [21:22:15] But we don't have people able to run the server [21:22:39] And no budget for the VPS as well :( [21:23:12] There are some cheap options, but with no support for running the server. [21:23:27] Kind of a dead end [21:26:14] But there must be a way, as other people are getting it. I must find it! [21:39:46] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17529613/why-node-js-cant-run-on-shared-hosting goes through this issue, Daniel_01 [21:42:17] I'm on it, tks [22:02:55] It's all about node.js. running on a shared environment. The conclusion is that for a Mediawiki project it does need a private server with Linux and Apache, right? [22:03:58] Sorry, but that's not my field. Although I'm a translator, the tech language is difficult for me. [22:04:05] VE depends on Parsoid to edit existing pages, which is what depends on node.js [22:04:23] Yeap, this I got. [22:05:34] And to save new pages, I think... [22:05:42] Parsoid is a parser for MediaWiki syntax. Not needed for normal, plain MediaWiki use. [22:07:06] What makes the trick is node.js, that sends html to parsoid that turns it into MediaWiki language, right? [22:08:59] and does all kinds of things e.g. to make sure the only changes that get saved are things the user actually modified, yeah [22:13:09] Ok, but node.js needs to run with Apache, PHP and MySQL. Apache is the Web Server, PHP is the language to setup MediaWiki behaviour and MySQL is the database for the wiki content, check? [22:15:52] Daniel_01: VisualEditor needs MediaWiki and Parsoid. MediaWiki needs PHP, MySQL and a web server (for example Apache). Parsoid needs Node.JS. [22:20:55] So this is the full installation that Visual Editor needs to run: Linux > Apache > PHP and MySQL> MediaWiki > Parsoid and Node.Js, and Visual Editor installed as an extension of MediaWiki, ok? [22:22:22] Without this setup in a VPS, it won't be possible to run our Wiki with Visual Editor, right? [22:28:18] yes, that sounds right [22:45:09] Ok, got it (sort of). Next is to find a way to implement it with our Wiki. We need a cheap server and support for all this setup and server maintenance. [22:45:30] But our needs are clearer. Thanks. [22:57:11] (03PS1) 10Sn1per: Detect and request PMID/PCMID info [services/citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182752