[00:03:02] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Audit all methods and add @private and @protected where appropriate - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88628#1016456 (10TrevorParscal) 3NEW a:3matmarex
[00:04:23] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Document public properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88629#1016465 (10TrevorParscal) 3NEW a:3matmarex
[00:06:57] <RoanKattouw>	 >>> a = [1,2,3,4,5,6]; b = a.splice(3); [a,b];
[00:06:57] <ecmabot-wm>	 RoanKattouw: (object) [[1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6]]
[00:07:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: extension.json: Add "VisualEditorPluginModules" to "config" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188700 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[00:07:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Unbind watch event handler in VPT when necessary [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188706 
[00:08:14] <RoanKattouw>	 Whoops, I meant:
[00:08:40] <RoanKattouw>	 >>> wholeArray = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10]; sub = wholeArray.splice(0,3); [sub,wholeArray];
[00:08:40] <ecmabot-wm>	 RoanKattouw: (object) [[1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]]
[00:08:43] <RoanKattouw>	 mooeypoo: --^^
[00:09:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Fade in window frames separately from window overlays [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188256 (owner: 10Esanders)
[00:09:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: "I0f0af71c" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182336 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78694) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[00:10:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fade in window frames separately from window overlays [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188256 (owner: 10Esanders)
[00:10:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Fix initialisation of window visible [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188237 (owner: 10Esanders)
[00:11:00] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: OOUI: It's unclear which class members (properties) are public/private/internal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74578#1016486 (10matmarex)
[00:11:01] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Document public properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88629#1016487 (10matmarex)
[00:13:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix initialisation of window visible [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188237 (owner: 10Esanders)
[00:14:32] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-ContentHandler, VisualEditor: Cite options are missing in test2 for VE now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87054#1016495 (10Krenair)
[00:24:21] <wikibugs>	 3WikiEditor, Language-Engineering: Toolbar buttons misrendering in wikitext editor in Arabic Wikipedia when user language set to LTR language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88463#1016553 (10Aklapper)
[00:33:10] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: Your equivalent of http://localhost:8080/w/extensions/VisualEditor/lib/ve/test-coverage/visualeditor/Chrome%2040.0.2214%20(Mac%20OS%20X%2010.10.1)/src/ui/commands/index.html
[00:35:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (55e3589) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188616 
[00:35:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (55e3589) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188616 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:35:25] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188614/
[00:35:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] MWTransclusionDialog: Add a little margin to the addTemplateFieldset [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188614 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:35:43] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188706/
[00:36:31] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/179002/ is +1'ed from Ed, waiting for you "to check the promises".
[00:37:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (55e3589) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188616 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:37:54] <wikibugs>	 3Parsoid, VisualEditor, VisualEditor-Performance: Thoughts on element IDs, sections, incremental parsing and fast section editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87556#1016616 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[00:38:27] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: And after all that, can you give some indication on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87161 as to the likely disposition?
[00:38:30] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: [[Linkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link|Link]] is always wrong - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88502#1016625 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Since there's no difference in how VisualEditor makes internal and external links, suggesting that the user make an external link is going to be confusing.  How a...
[00:38:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] MWTransclusionDialog: Add a little margin to the addTemplateFieldset [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188614 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:39:06] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: [[Linkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link|Link]] is always wrong - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88502#1016628 (10Jdforrester-WMF) If so, can we just merge into {T76398}?
[00:40:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "C'mon." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188614 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:40:35] <Negative24>	 James_F: Sorry for a potentially duh question but what is the difference between the VisualEditor/VisualEditor repo and mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor? I'm guessing the first is the submod in lib/ve
[00:41:19] <RoanKattouw>	 Negative24: Yes
[00:41:33] <James_F>	 Negative24: VisualEditor/VisualEditor is "VisualEditor core", a generic HTML editor. mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor is "VisualEditor-MediaWiki", an extension for MediaWiki that integrates VisualEditor core and extends it.
[00:42:16] <Negative24>	 RoanKattouw James_F: Thanks and sorry for bothering you. I'm having a bit of VE dissecting fun
[00:42:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: MWTransclusionDialog: Add a little margin to the addTemplateFieldset [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188614 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:43:05] <Negative24>	 Seems a bit self-explanatory now that I look at it :)
[00:43:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] Unbind watch event handler in VPT when necessary (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188706 (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[00:53:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Bump various devDependencies to latest [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188716 
[00:55:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Tag v0.1.3 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188717 
[00:55:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Bump various devDependencies to latest [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188716 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:56:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "recheck" [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188716 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[01:02:35] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: API design and documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40855#1016725 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[01:02:36] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, VisualEditor-Performance: Explore performance gains from progressive (JIT?) de-alienation of content types in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76544#1016724 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[01:02:49] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: API design and documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40855#1016726 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5High>3Normal
[01:06:43] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: [Regression wmf13] Creating a citation without filling in a required field throws "Cannot read property 'createElement' of null" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78626#1016742 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved
[01:06:46] <Krenair>	 RoanKattouw, re https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188706/1/modules/ve-mw/init/targets/ve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget.js - it certainly seems to work
[01:07:08] <Krenair>	 because of the bindHandlers call in ve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget.prototype.activate, probably?
[01:11:14] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: Random bad stuff happening in VisualEditor after double-click on line end - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88612#1016766 (10awight)
[01:13:32] <RoanKattouw>	 Krenair: Well passing undefined as a function to bind and then unbinding a function that was never bound probably doesn't actually have disastrous consequences I suppose
[01:13:47] <RoanKattouw>	 But I felt like maybe we shouldn't be doing that
[01:16:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Alex Monk: Unbind watch event handler in VPT when necessary [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188706 
[01:23:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 
[01:24:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 
[01:26:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[01:27:12] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: VisualEditor table editor would be improved by right-click support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88645#1016834 (10awight) 3NEW
[01:27:44] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: Random bad stuff happening in VisualEditor after double-click on line end - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88612#1016841 (10Catrope) I saw Adam reproduce this on his machine. This is specific to Firefox, which behaves differently from Chrome. In Chrome, when you double-click at the end of the...
[01:47:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 
[01:48:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] "Code looks fine, but I discovered that arrow keys in table cells are now broken, see inline comment." (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177946 (owner: 10Divec)
[01:50:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[02:07:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Unbind watch event handler in VPT when necessary [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188706 (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[02:08:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: "The table arrow key breakage also seems to involve CE and DM getting out of sync once you type, at least when I right-arrow out of a table" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/177946 (owner: 10Divec)
[02:09:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Unbind watch event handler in VPT when necessary [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188706 (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[02:09:20] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188716/ and its child.
[02:10:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] build: Bump various devDependencies to latest [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188716 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:10:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Tag v0.1.3 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188717 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:11:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bump various devDependencies to latest [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188716 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:11:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Tag v0.1.3 [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188717 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:13:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update UnicodeJS to v0.1.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188729 
[02:15:06] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: ^^^
[02:15:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update UnicodeJS to v0.1.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188729 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:21:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Update UnicodeJS to v0.1.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188729 
[02:25:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Update UnicodeJS to v0.1.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188729 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:27:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update UnicodeJS to v0.1.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188729 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:29:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Krinkle: mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 
[02:30:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-1] "What task does this fix?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[02:31:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[02:49:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: "Awesome. You have two names for the active state -- both "ve-active" and "ve-activated" -- is that intentional? Also, is it possible to tr" (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[02:52:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Krinkle: mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) 
[02:53:17] <ori>	 what's the difference between "active" and "activated"?
[02:54:00] <Krinkle>	 ori: This is explained in the commit
[02:54:05] <Krinkle>	 ori: see see file
[02:54:19] <Krinkle>	 active means editor has finished loading and is currently active
[02:54:34] <Krinkle>	 activated means it has been activated (by the user) and is either activating or active
[02:54:40] <Krinkle>	 active is new and sanely named
[02:54:47] <Krinkle>	 activated is pre-existing and illnamed
[02:55:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Krinkle: mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) 
[02:58:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: "@ori: ve-active is added once the editor has finished loading and is ready for user input, ve-activated is added immediately when the edit" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) (owner: 10Krinkle)
[03:21:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Allow access to DM document during model->DOM conversion [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188736 
[03:21:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Pass original document in model->DOM tests [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188737 
[03:24:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Krinkle: mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) 
[03:24:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) (owner: 10Krinkle)
[03:32:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Remove InternalList#getItemHtmlQueue [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188738 
[03:32:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Add lookup-by-ID feature to InternalList [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188739 
[03:33:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Catrope: Remove InternalList#getItemHtmlQueue [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188738 
[03:33:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Catrope: Add lookup-by-ID feature to InternalList [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188739 
[03:35:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove InternalList#getItemHtmlQueue [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188738 (owner: 10Catrope)
[03:36:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add lookup-by-ID feature to InternalList [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188739 (owner: 10Catrope)
[03:52:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Catrope: Add lookup-by-ID feature to InternalList [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188739 (owner: 10Catrope)
[03:52:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Catrope: Remove InternalList#getItemHtmlQueue [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188738 (owner: 10Catrope)
[04:10:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Support specifying reference contents with data-mw.body.id [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88650) 
[04:11:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Support specifying reference contents with data-mw.body.id [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188741 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88650) (owner: 10Catrope)
[04:22:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Catrope: Allow access to DM document during model->DOM conversion [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188736 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88650) 
[04:22:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Catrope: Pass original document in model->DOM tests [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188737 
[04:23:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Catrope: Pass original document in model->DOM tests [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188737 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88650) 
[09:02:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Remove extra empty lines to make Rubocop pass [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186985 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:04:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187099 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:05:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Remove extra empty lines to make Rubocop pass [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186985 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:05:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Simplify the Selenium selector for the Save button [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186906 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:06:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187100 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:06:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186937 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:06:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:09:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Shorten lines for clarity [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186925 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:10:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Consistent names for variables that refer to down-arrow [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186926 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:10:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Shorten lines for clarity [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186925 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:12:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Consistent names for variables that refer to down-arrow [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186926 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:13:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Show the complete insert pull-down in screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186927 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:15:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Show the complete insert pull-down in screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186927 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:16:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Restore the indentation list screenshot scenario [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186935 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:17:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Shorten all capture_screenshot lines [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186936 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:17:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Restore the indentation list screenshot scenario [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186935 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:19:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Shorten all capture_screenshot lines [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186936 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:25:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 
[09:27:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:31:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 
[09:32:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 (owner: 10Amire80)
[09:36:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 
[10:15:24] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: language screenshots scenarios cannot run because ve-ce-branchNode element is not found - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88663#1017468 (10Amire80) 3NEW a:3Amire80
[10:16:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Click the editable area with .when_present [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188778 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88663) 
[10:18:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Click the editable area with .when_present [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188778 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88663) (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:19:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 
[10:19:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Click the editable area with .when_present [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188778 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88663) (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:21:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:22:29] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: language screenshots scenarios cannot run because ve-ce-branchNode element is not found - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88663#1017494 (10Amire80) 5Open>3Resolved
[10:23:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Zfilipin: [BrowserTest] WIP: Restore the formula screenshot scenario [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186937 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:23:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Restore page settings language screenshots [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187086 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:26:05] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: Vagrant VE role localsettings conflicts with VisualEditor's user option defaults - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88665#1017497 (10brion) 3NEW
[10:28:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Restore the formula screenshot scenario [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186937 
[10:29:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Restore the formula screenshot scenario [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186937 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:31:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Restore the formula screenshot scenario [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186937 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:32:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Zfilipin: [BrowserTest] Rename iframe to window_frame [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187099 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:33:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Rename iframe to window_frame [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187099 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:34:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Zfilipin: [BrowserTest] Refactor offset_element and browser_zoom [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187100 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:34:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Rename iframe to window_frame [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187099 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:40:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Refactor offset_element and browser_zoom [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187100 
[10:41:17] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: VisualEditor on Vagrant gives "Error: Unknown dependency: schema.Edit" in JS console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88667#1017520 (10brion) 3NEW
[10:43:04] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: VisualEditor on Vagrant gives "Error: Unknown dependency: schema.Edit" in JS console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88667#1017530 (10brion)
[10:45:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C: 032] [BrowserTest] Refactor offset_element and browser_zoom [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187100 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:47:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [BrowserTest] Refactor offset_element and browser_zoom [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187100 (owner: 10Amire80)
[10:58:49] <wikibugs>	 3WikiEditor, Language-Engineering: Toolbar buttons misrendering in wikitext editor in Arabic Wikipedia when user language set to LTR language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88463#1017545 (10Schnark) This doesn't happen at ar.wikibooks, so I guess that ar.wikipedia broke this in [[https://ar.wikipedia.org/w...
[11:37:36] <Richlv>	 i'm coming with a bunch of questions :)
[11:37:49] <Richlv>	 1. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor latest status info is from november - any new status coming ?
[11:38:28] <Richlv>	 2. at the bottom of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Portal there's "on the help desk, or in the IRC help channel" link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Portal/New_users - the latter is not very useful...
[11:39:28] <Richlv>	 3. which mw version[s] will work with latest visualeditor ?
[11:42:17] <MatmaRex>	 hi Richlv
[11:43:14] <MatmaRex>	 latest visualeditor probably needs latest (master) version of mediawiki, since we're often forced to add things to mediawiki that we need
[11:44:33] <MatmaRex>	 development definitely hasn't stopped in november, not sure where the news are - James_F|Away will be the best person to anwer this, when he's online (in ~4-5 hours)
[11:45:25] <MatmaRex>	 Richlv: here's a piece of news from this week :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#VisualEditor_News_2015.E2.80.94.231
[11:48:12] <Richlv>	 MatmaRex, thanks. so 24.1 will not work, right ?
[11:50:08] <MatmaRex>	 Richlv: honestly, i'm not sure. we never test that. we do have VE versions for each major mediawiki release, though, if you prefer the convenience of having a "stabler" version of mediawiki
[11:51:00] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/VisualEditor
[12:17:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Replace 104px by 102px for width of thumbnail div [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183254 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:17:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Replace 104px by 102px for width of thumbnail div [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183254 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:17:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 031] Replace 104px by 102px for width of thumbnail div [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183254 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:25:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Use sprite as button icon where possible [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186177 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:25:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use sprite as button icon where possible [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186177 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:27:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Amire80: [BrowserTest] Update the definition of formula_image element [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188795 
[12:30:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use "obj.hasOwnProperty( prop )" instead of "prop in obj" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/184619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:31:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Raimond Spekking: [C: 031] "i18n review" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/183254 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:34:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Use "obj.hasOwnProperty( prop )" instead of "prop in obj" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/184619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:34:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Use "obj.hasOwnProperty( prop )" instead of "prop in obj" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/184619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:35:34] <wikibugs>	 3WikiEditor: WikiEditor interprets names of predefined Object prototype methods as valid language names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643#1017726 (10matmarex)
[12:35:35] <wikibugs>	 3WikiEditor: WikiEditor interprets names of predefined Object prototype methods as valid language names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643#973273 (10matmarex)
[12:37:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use "obj.hasOwnProperty( prop )" instead of "prop in obj" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/184619 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:39:24] <wikibugs>	 3WikiEditor: WikiEditor interprets names of predefined Object prototype methods as valid language names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86643#1017748 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved Not a security issue, thankfully.
[12:41:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Allow a resizeable toolbar index [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187339 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:44:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Allow a resizeable toolbar index [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187339 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[12:44:35] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-Page-editing: page moves leave an un-undoable revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88680#1017772 (10Martijn_Hoekstra)
[12:47:44] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-Page-editing: page moves leave an un-undoable revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88680#1017774 (10Martijn_Hoekstra) 5Open>3Invalid a:3Martijn_Hoekstra Duplicate to T6433 I don't know how to mark duplicates.
[12:49:23] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-Page-editing: page moves leave an un-undoable revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88680#1017786 (10PleaseStand)
[12:52:52] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-Page-editing: page moves leave an un-undoable revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88680#1017807 (10PleaseStand) >>! In T88680#1017774, @Martijn_Hoekstra wrote: > Duplicate to T6433 I don't know how to mark duplicates.  Use "Merge Duplicates In" on the other task.
[13:00:47] <Richlv>	 MatmaRex, yeah, but i guess those are less useful to test & report issues for
[13:02:13] <MatmaRex>	 yeah, probably :(
[13:08:25] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: [Suggestion for improvement] The difference between the background colors for disabled button and selected button is not much visibly apparent now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88592#1017834 (10matmarex)
[13:08:26] <wikibugs>	 3WMF-Design, UI-Standardization, OOjs-UI: button styles differ between OOjs UI and mediawiki UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88449#1017833 (10matmarex)
[13:21:05] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: VisualEditor: Google Chrome's auto-translate of the contentEditable surface is very confusing for users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59124#1017852 (10NicoV) According to Drongou, this "google problem" would also explain that in the following edit, snowmen were added by VE to the text. I do...
[14:14:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: Support fallback languages for icons [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186006 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87247) 
[14:14:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: "This commit was uploaded using the Gerrit Patch Uploader [1]." [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186006 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87247) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader)
[16:20:26] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Is T88592 not just a duplicate of T88038?
[16:21:37] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: it's somewhat different, but perhaps close enough.
[16:21:58] <MatmaRex>	 i've been meaning to file a bug about overuse of shades of grey myself
[16:22:00] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: [Suggestion for improvement] The difference between the background colors for disabled button and selected button is not much visibly apparent now - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88592#1018158 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:22:02] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, OOjs-UI: Disabled OOjs UI button in MediaWiki theme needs more contrast - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88038#1018159 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:22:29] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, OOjs-UI: Disabled OOjs UI button in MediaWiki theme needs more contrast - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88038#1002931 (10Jdforrester-WMF) I've merged in {T88592} because they're covering the same issue in different terms.
[16:23:24] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: VisualEditor table editor would be improved by right-click support - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88645#1018167 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF We purposefully don't use contextual menus, as we're a mobile-parity editor.
[16:24:40] <MatmaRex>	 i mean, look at this - http://i.imgur.com/b3ByAmM.png - and tell me what is the state of every button
[16:25:02] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: VisualEditor on Vagrant gives "Error: Unknown dependency: schema.Edit" in JS console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88667#1018174 (10Jdforrester-WMF) You need to load WikimediaEvents if you've got EventLogging installed for VisualEditor to work.
[16:25:45] <James_F>	 Active unselected; inactive; active selected; active hoverred.
[16:25:48] <James_F>	 ;-)
[16:47:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS26) 10Paladox: Re add svg images [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/181786 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37342) 
[16:48:55] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, VisualEditor-Tables: Be able to re-order the columns or rows of a table by dragging to to another position - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88694#1018205 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW
[16:49:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Deprecate GridLayout [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188826 
[16:49:53] <Krenair>	 hi James_F
[16:49:57] <James_F>	 Hey.
[16:50:16] <Krenair>	 just been working on the wikieditor instrumentation again
[16:50:23] <James_F>	 Right.
[16:50:35] <Krenair>	 done saveAttempt, abort... think I've just got the saveSuccess/saveFailure left to do
[16:51:27] <Krenair>	 Still not 100% happy about the session ID being in the URL :/
[16:51:49] <James_F>	 Can we do it as POST rather than GET?
[16:52:07] <Krenair>	 what, clicking the edit link?
[16:52:13] <James_F>	 Yeah.
[16:52:15] <Krenair>	 ew.
[16:52:22] <James_F>	 It's what JS is for. ;-)
[16:53:04] <Krenair>	 it probably assumes posts are saves, etc.
[16:53:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: SelectWidget: listbox wrapper role, state on contents (031 comment) [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187655 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88091) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[16:53:20] <James_F>	 Fun.
[16:53:26] <Krenair>	 I haven't checked that though
[16:53:55] <James_F>	 The other issue is that if you start two edit sessions from the same page opening it in a new tab, the edit session ID should differ.
[16:54:02] <James_F>	 Which is minor, but…
[16:54:43] <Krenair>	 sigh
[16:56:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: SelectWidget: 'listbox' wrapper role, 'aria-selected' state on contents [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187655 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88091) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[16:56:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] "Tweaked code style only." [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187655 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88091) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[16:58:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: SelectWidget: 'listbox' wrapper role, 'aria-selected' state on contents [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187655 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88091) (owner: 10TheDJ)
[17:00:22] <Krenair>	 James_F|Away, I'm not sure we have a hook for the result of a save attempt
[17:00:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Maybe we should have a TextInputWidget subclass for handling numeric inputs, with fancy step buttons and such?" [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188425 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[17:02:08] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: ToggleSwitchWidget requires to be TabIndexedElement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88080#1018249 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex
[17:02:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ToggleSwitchWidget: Add TabIndexedElement mixin [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188828 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88080) 
[17:08:01] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: RadioSelectWidget is not accessible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88082#1018279 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex
[17:08:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: RadioOptionWidget: Make it a <label/> [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188830 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88082) 
[17:10:01] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: ToggleSwitchWidget requires the checkbox role - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88079#1018296 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex
[17:10:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ToggleSwitchWidget: Accessibility improvements [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188828 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88079) 
[17:14:27] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Toolbar menus don't disappear when another menu is opened on touch devices - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87818#1018320 (10matmarex) p:5High>3Normal
[17:15:07] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Rename a lot of getters for consistency - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76630#1018322 (10matmarex) p:5High>3Normal
[17:22:31] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: VisualEditor on Vagrant gives "Error: Unknown dependency: schema.Edit" in JS console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88667#1018328 (10brion) Interesting, something else must be pulling it in as a dependency...  puppet/modules/role/manifests/mobilefrontend.pp:    include ::r...
[17:22:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Cmcmahon: [BrowserTest] update Gem version of mediawiki_selenium [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188834 
[17:23:02] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, OOjs-UI: OOjs UI: Enhancement of OOUI PHP widgets with JS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74716#1018329 (10matmarex) The big open questions: * Do we want to automatically enhance all existing PHP OOUI widgets found on page, or explicitly for selected elements only? * Do we want to reuse...
[17:24:26] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: DraggableGroupElement should handle non-OptionWidget items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053#1018331 (10matmarex)
[17:24:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [BrowserTest] update Gem version of mediawiki_selenium [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188834 (owner: 10Cmcmahon)
[17:27:54] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: VisualEditor on Vagrant gives "Error: Unknown dependency: schema.Edit" in JS console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88667#1018346 (10brion)
[17:28:06] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Make buttons steal focus after click unless configured otherwise - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76636#1018347 (10matmarex) 5Open>3stalled
[17:30:22] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: OptionWidget has icon: 'check' in default settings for all themes, but only Apex needs this - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87835#1018358 (10matmarex) p:5Normal>3Low
[17:30:38] <wm-ve-needcheck>	 Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on frwiki: https://fr.wikipedia.org/?diff=111559055
[17:30:38] <wm-ve-needcheck>	 Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on frwiki: https://fr.wikipedia.org/?diff=111573900
[17:30:38] <wm-ve-needcheck>	 Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on zhwiki: https://zh.wikipedia.org/?diff=34217651
[17:30:38] <wm-ve-needcheck>	 Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on ruwiki: https://ru.wikipedia.org/?diff=68389955
[17:30:38] <wm-ve-needcheck>	 Corruption alert: visualeditor-needcheck on ptwiki: https://pt.wikipedia.org/?diff=41258783
[17:31:42] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Menus' dropdown icons should be smaller and lighter in the MediaWiki theme - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78086#1018363 (10matmarex) Related: T86693, T87832.
[17:32:26] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: OOjs UI: ClippableElement does not work in certain cases - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69444#1018369 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Invalid a:3matmarex
[17:32:58] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Compress OOjs UI PNGs with pngcrush -brute -reduce - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76148#1018373 (10matmarex) p:5Low>3Volunteer?
[17:37:14] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Document public properties - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88629#1018386 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3Normal
[17:38:12] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor: Message 'visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-no-template-description' uses raw HTML - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87131#1018387 (10matmarex) a:5matmarex>3None Not going to work on this right now since it has a nasty dependency, but the issue is dear to my heart.
[17:43:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Mvolz: [WIP] Use html-metadata library [services/citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/182975 
[17:54:26] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor, MediaWiki-Vagrant: Declare conditional dependency on WikimediaEvents, and don't try to use schema.Edit unless it's present - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88667#1018413 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[17:57:29] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: SelectWidget group of OptionWidget is not presenting its state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88091#1018422 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3TheDJ
[18:15:57] <mvolz>	 RoanKattouw_away: lmk when you want to talk about production things. 
[18:16:08] <mvolz>	 I have 15 minutes and then another meeting. 
[18:29:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "> Maybe we should have a TextInputWidget subclass for handling numeric inputs, with fancy step buttons and such?" [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188425 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[18:30:43] <RoanKattouw>	 mvolz: So have you spoken to akosiaris or csteipp recently?
[18:31:39] <RoanKattouw>	 My understanding is that Alexandros was working on using a Debian package for Zotero, and that they hadn't yet set up a proxy for the boxes to access the public internet, which Alexandros didn't want to do for arbitrary URLs without Chris being OK with it
[18:32:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Sure, but they use native buttons, which I personally find pretty, but designers apparently hate." [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188425 (owner: 10Ricordisamoa)
[18:49:47] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Compress OOjs UI PNGs with pngcrush -brute -reduce - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76148#1018607 (10Nemo_bis) > "Needs Volunteer". > Change 188845 abandoned by Jforrester > Change 188845 abandoned by Jforrester  I'm having issues reconciling mixed messaging from the product's maintainers.
[18:53:16] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: Heads up re. wmf16 getting cut in a few minutes.
[18:53:58] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Compress OOjs UI PNGs with pngcrush -brute -reduce - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76148#1018642 (10matmarex) James' opinion generally overrides my opinion on repositories he's the product manager for, like this one. The priority field value is badly named (being discussed on T78617) and just mean...
[18:54:21] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: Compress OOjs UI PNGs with pngcrush -brute -reduce - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76148#1018646 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF >>! In T76148#1018607, @Nemo_bis wrote: >> "Needs Volunteer". >> Change 188845 abandoned by Jforrester >> Change 188845 abandoned by Jforres...
[18:56:10] <mvolz>	 RoanKattouw: I have not. You're my ops proxy, apparently. I'll ping them :)
[18:56:23] <mvolz>	 but maybe not today
[18:56:34] <mvolz>	 I'm sure they're still busy after today's exciting events
[19:20:30] <James_F>	 Hey Krinkle.
[19:24:19] <MatmaRex>	 James_F dear, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188840/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188857/ could use being reviewed by somebody who actually has some knowledge of those things.
[19:24:34] <MatmaRex>	 it really sucks that i'm the person doing this, since i know jack shit about the matter
[19:24:42] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Yeah, I was going to bug marktraceur about them.
[19:25:04] <marktraceur>	 I have knowledge about something?
[19:25:16] <marktraceur>	 Ooh.
[19:25:29] <James_F>	 marktraceur: About multimedia stuff.
[19:25:35] <marktraceur>	 Arguably true
[19:27:38] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: Do you have a plan for telling people about the background change?
[19:27:47] <marktraceur>	 I have a feeling that there may be some problems
[19:27:55] <MatmaRex>	 do elaborate
[19:28:07] <MatmaRex>	 (neither of the changes affect wmf prod, afaict)
[19:28:10] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: If someone's relying on the white background to make their content visible
[19:28:24] <marktraceur>	 Seems unlikely...
[19:28:40] <MatmaRex>	 that would be quite silly. there's a release note
[19:28:51] <marktraceur>	 Heh, OK
[19:28:54] <James_F>	 :-)
[19:28:57] <James_F>	 marktraceur: Merge it!
[19:29:07] <marktraceur>	 I'm +1 but it seems irresponsible to merge without testing.
[19:31:51] <James_F>	 marktraceur: Test it!
[19:32:08] <marktraceur>	 Working on it...
[19:36:04] <MatmaRex>	 marktraceur: i put up some testing notes on the bug, for the background change
[19:36:39] <marktraceur>	 K
[19:36:45] <marktraceur>	 rsvg in
[19:40:12] <marktraceur>	 MatmaRex: I think with your patch I'm seeing a greyish background...not sure really
[19:40:24] <Krinkle>	 Hi
[19:40:29] <marktraceur>	 Ohai Krinkle
[19:40:33] <MatmaRex>	 eh, impossible
[19:40:43] <marktraceur>	 I would imagine so
[19:40:45] <marktraceur>	 But here it is.
[19:41:27] <marktraceur>	 Works fine in Media Viewer...maybe Firefox puts a grey background on transparent images
[19:41:39] <Krinkle>	 MatmaRex: I left a comment with some doc references and version numbers you may wanna make use of in the commit message/rel notes
[19:41:43] <marktraceur>	 Yeah, it's fine
[19:41:44] <marktraceur>	 Merging
[19:41:57] <MatmaRex>	 Krinkle: i don't wanna, you wanna? :P
[19:41:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Mooeypoo: Make category widget items draggable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[19:42:10] <Krinkle>	 MatmaRex: I don't know what I'm talking about
[19:42:15] <MatmaRex>	 (also, thanks)
[19:42:17] <MatmaRex>	 heh, neither do i
[19:42:26] <Krinkle>	 MatmaRex: Tim Starling and Andre Klapper both make patches to rsvg lib <2010. Maybe ask them.
[19:42:38] <Krinkle>	 Their names are mentioned a number of times in the change log
[19:42:38] <andre__>	 err, no?
[19:42:46] <Krinkle>	 andre__: Maybe a different you then :
[19:42:54] <MatmaRex>	 eh
[19:42:57] <MatmaRex>	 i don't care enough, tbh
[19:43:00] <andre__>	 Krinkle, did you check for committers or for authors?
[19:43:14] <Krinkle>	 2009-06-01  Andre Klapper  <a9016009@gmx.de> 
[19:43:31] <Profoss>	 Hi, I have some questions about Visual Editor and the citation tool
[19:43:32] <Krinkle>	 release manager?
[19:44:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make category widget items draggable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[19:44:02] <MatmaRex>	 hi Profoss
[19:44:24] <andre__>	 Krinkle, oh, I fixed three types of compiler warnings. I see.
[19:44:31] <andre__>	 that does not mean I knew what I was doing though :P
[19:44:58] <Profoss>	 like... will users ever be able to paste a wikitemplate in the citation tool
[19:45:10] <Krinkle>	 andre__: Enough to be inside. And presumably to have run the command > 1 times, and even understood part of the source code and contribution workflow.
[19:45:24] <andre__>	 I think I need context.
[19:45:30] <James_F>	 Profoss: You mean, paste "{{foo|bar|baz}}" into a citation? No.
[19:45:36] <Profoss>	 yeah
[19:45:40] <Krinkle>	 andre__: marktraceur already merged it so alas, the world has reached v1.0, no changing now :)
[19:45:50] <Krinkle>	 andre__: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188840/
[19:45:56] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, OOjs-UI: Implement ResourceLoader module to ship CSS for sets of SVG+PNG icons to the user - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76473#1018904 (10matmarex)
[19:45:58] <andre__>	 ah thx
[19:46:20] <andre__>	 never played with that, just know that it got renamed in some distros
[19:46:28] <andre__>	 plus the state of librsvg (that it is unmaintained) is explained here in a longer version: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-January/msg00073.html
[19:46:50] <Profoss>	 cause we've set up a citation tool at the national library of Norway, that returns a citation template for each book
[19:46:54] <andre__>	 and no I don't understand its source code. Noone does. :)
[19:47:20] <Profoss>	 and that's unusable with visual editor, since it gets <nowiki> tags
[19:47:22] <Krinkle>	 andre__: Interesting mail
[19:47:23] <marktraceur>	 Causing all kinds of trouble
[19:47:31] <Krinkle>	 andre__: I suppose that advice applies to us as well..
[19:49:21] <MatmaRex>	 Profoss: is the wiki public? can we see it? i don't quite understand the issue you're having
[19:49:44] <andre__>	 Krinkle, well, I told csteipp last week too
[19:50:26] <Profoss>	 MatmaRex: give me a sec, I'll make an example
[19:50:30] <andre__>	 Krinkle: and "there might be security issues" was a rather euphemistic way to express librsvg's issues
[19:50:57] <MatmaRex>	 Krinkle: there's a bug named "reevalute rsvg as svg renderer" or something.
[19:51:08] <andre__>	 yes, T40010
[19:52:15] <wikibugs>	 3Multimedia, MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, MediaWiki-File-management: Create a variant of SvgHandler suitable for T76473 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76477#1018941 (10matmarex)
[19:52:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 
[19:52:25] <Profoss>	 MatmaRex: ok, for example, this book: http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/e6e4804e7451c95fb2e2a16b9e392e8a?index=2#0 produces a wikitemplate to use as a reference {{ Kilde bok | forfatter = Thrane, Waldemar (1790-1828) | utgivelsesår = 1870 | tittel = To Sange af Fjeldeventyret: med Piano-Accompagnement | utgivelsessted = Christiania | forlag = Warmuth | url = http://urn.nb.no/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2013121326020 | side = }} 
[19:52:51] <Profoss>	 the idea is you copy paste that into a wikipedia article as a reference
[19:53:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: Make sure category widget methods call parent class methods [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188869 
[19:53:15] <MatmaRex>	 oh, right. and you can't paste that into VE.
[19:53:15] <Profoss>	 but using visualeditors simple citation tool it adds <nowiki> tags around it
[19:53:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[19:53:46] <Profoss>	 yeah, I was wondering if that is a permanent thing
[19:53:48] <MatmaRex>	 there's probably a feature request or two open about this
[19:53:58] <MatmaRex>	 you can work around this, but it takes some clicking:
[19:54:39] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Wait
[19:54:47] <Profoss>	 yeah, I know, I was hoping there was a simple way so every time I'm hosting a wiki workshop I can say "yes you can use the fancy new editor"
[19:54:59] <James_F>	 Profoss: The new citation tool which is coming soon should let people paste http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/e6e4804e7451c95fb2e2a16b9e392e8a?index=2#0 into it and have it work.
[19:55:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: Cleanup unreachable code from DraggableGroupElement [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188871 
[19:55:17] <James_F>	 Profoss: But that feature isn't available just yet.
[19:55:23] <James_F>	 Profoss: mvolz is working on it. :-)
[19:55:44] <Profoss>	 ahh, ok, does that work out of the box or do I have to fix the webpage
[19:56:02] <MatmaRex>	 Profoss: in the meantime, you can go into the Insert -> Template menu, open the options panel using the button in bottom-left corner, and click the icon with "[ ]" ("Content") in the newly appeared bottom-left panel – you can then paste wikitext into the new text field
[19:56:06] <James_F>	 Profoss: Out of the box, probably, but we can see what the output will be.
[19:56:12] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Please don't recommend hacks like that.
[19:56:16] <MatmaRex>	 it is intentionally this weird, so that people don't start using it ;)
[19:56:23] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: It's not good for users, and it's not likely to keep working.
[19:56:23] <Profoss>	 MatmaRex: ohh, I didn't know that, cheers
[19:56:55] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: indeed, we should convert the pasted things into real VE nodes
[19:56:56] <Profoss>	 James_F: lovely, I'll check back when that tool comes online
[19:57:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: DraggableGroupElement: Unset dragged item when dropped [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187637 
[19:57:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053) 
[19:58:08] <Profoss>	 VE looks good, btw, only problem we have on no.wiki is that people inadvertedly try to edit links and just edits the link text and not the link it self (and the citation thingy)
[19:58:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Remove inline spacing from ButtonWidget [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188874 
[19:58:51] <RoanKattouw>	 TrevorP|Away: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188874
[20:00:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] DraggableGroupElement: Unset dragged item when dropped [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187637 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:00:15] <James_F>	 Whee.
[20:00:50] <RoanKattouw>	 TrevorParscal: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188868/2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188871/
[20:00:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Trevor Parscal: [C: 032] Remove inline spacing from ButtonWidget [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188874 (owner: 10Catrope)
[20:01:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:01:14] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, OOjs-UI: Implement ResourceLoader module to ship CSS for sets of SVG+PNG icons to the user - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76473#1018999 (10matmarex)
[20:01:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Trevor Parscal: [C: 032] Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:02:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Eh? The commit message and diff don't seem to match here…" [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188874 (owner: 10Catrope)
[20:02:43] <MatmaRex>	 RoanKattouw: try that with the PHP demo after https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188826 , the buttons will probably have no spacing between them?
[20:02:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Trevor Parscal: [C: 032] Cleanup unreachable code from DraggableGroupElement [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188871 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:03:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: DraggableGroupElement: Unset dragged item when dropped [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187637 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:03:55] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, OOjs-UI, MediaWiki-Interface: Provide the OOUI PHP module inside MW core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74714#1019011 (10matmarex)
[20:03:56] <wikibugs>	 3UI-Standardization, MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, OOjs-UI: Implement ResourceLoader module to ship CSS for sets of SVG+PNG icons to the user - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76473#1019009 (10matmarex) 5Open>3Resolved I think this is sufficiently complete now. Tech debt like T76477 remains.
[20:04:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Catrope: Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:07:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove inline spacing from ButtonWidget [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188874 (owner: 10Catrope)
[20:07:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: "19:42:55 There was 1 failure:" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[20:10:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Cleanup unreachable code from DraggableGroupElement [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188871 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:18:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:19:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make sure DraggableGroupElement supports button widgets [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188868 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88053) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[20:33:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: "They do? I'm removing the 0.5em inline spacing (which is margin-right: 0.5em; except on :last-child) on ButtonWidgets. Consequently, I'm a" [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188874 (owner: 10Catrope)
[20:47:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS15) 10Catrope: Make category widget items draggable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[20:48:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make category widget items draggable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[20:51:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS16) 10Catrope: Make category widget items draggable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[20:53:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Make category widget items draggable [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/173360 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50809) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[20:54:53] <ssl_>	 Is it possible to somehow know the number of users in a separate language wiki, which enabled the checkbox "disable visual editor until he was in beta"?
[20:58:35] <Krenair>	 do you have access to the wiki database?
[20:58:53] <Krenair>	 and what is the actual text shown on that checkbox?
[21:01:04] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Cannot open Category dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736#1019140 (10Ryasmeen) 3NEW
[21:05:22] <ssl_>	 No, I do not have access to the wiki database. I'm interested in this number for ru.wikipedia.org. In Preferences (Настройки) -> Editing (Редактирование) -> checkbox "Временно отключить Визуальный редактор, пока он находится в бета-версии"
[21:05:25] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Cannot open category popup widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736#1019162 (10Krenair)
[21:06:07] <Krenair>	 ssl_, a WMF wiki, OK, we can access those :)
[21:06:12] <Krenair>	 and there are public replicas etc.
[21:06:41] <Krenair>	 that text is visualeditor-preference-betatempdisable, for the 'visualeditor-betatempdisable' preference
[21:07:43] <ssl_>	 just look https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B9#.D0.9E.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.BE.D1.81 :(
[21:08:11] <Krenair>	 actually I think that info is not in the public replicas
[21:08:36] <Krenair>	 only a set of 8 preferences are exposed publicly there
[21:10:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Remove useless mixinClass call from MWCategoryItemWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188885 
[21:10:41] <ssl_>	 and who can know this number then?
[21:13:31] <RoanKattouw>	 ori: I'm about to run a bunch of vbenches on osmium, so please ping me before touching it
[21:13:52] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-MediaWiki, OOjs-UI, VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Cannot open category popup widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736#1019174 (10Krenair)
[21:14:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 
[21:15:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[21:44:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] Remove useless mixinClass call from MWCategoryItemWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188885 (owner: 10Catrope)
[21:45:34] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-MediaWiki, OOjs-UI, VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Cannot open category popup widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736#1019274 (10Krenair) Seems to be caused by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/187614/
[21:46:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove useless mixinClass call from MWCategoryItemWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188885 (owner: 10Catrope)
[21:48:26] <wikibugs>	 3MediaWiki-Page-editing, MediaWiki-Core-Team: Use parentRevId field for section change merging instead of timestamps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88734#1019295 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder)
[21:50:16] <RoanKattouw>	 ori: Are you in the office? Will you be in the office today?
[21:53:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: "I think this caused https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736" [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[21:57:12] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-ContentEditable, VisualEditor: Safari only: inserting a link link on a new line will force the link inspector to be displayed in the upper left corner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76083#1019340 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in beta, test2, and production.
[21:57:55] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-ContentEditable, VisualEditor: Safari only: inserting a link link on a new line will force the link inspector to be displayed in the upper left corner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76083#1019341 (10Etonkovidova)
[21:59:24] <ori>	 RoanKattouw: I am, I'm on the other side of 3. Coming over now.
[22:11:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 
[22:11:35] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-ContentEditable, VisualEditor: Safari only: inserting a link on a new line will force the link inspector to be displayed in the upper left corner  - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76083#1019410 (10Etonkovidova) p:5Triage>3Low
[22:12:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Refactor MWMediaSearchWidget [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188725 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:15:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187618 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:16:21] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor-MediaWiki, OOjs-UI, VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Cannot open category popup widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736#1019436 (10Mooeypoo) Indeed. And it is solved by this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/187618/ (just tested)
[22:18:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736) 
[22:20:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class instead of jquery show/hide [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187618 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) 
[22:21:01] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Cannot open category popup widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88736#1019456 (10Ryasmeen) a:3Mooeypoo
[22:22:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) 
[22:23:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:24:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: "Skip ve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget in this commit as those have been made obsolete I87033456f715d99" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187618 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:24:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:25:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:27:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 04-1] Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:27:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) 
[22:30:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:34:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[22:36:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) (owner: 10Krinkle)
[22:36:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class rather than jQuery show/hide [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187617 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) 
[22:37:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mw.ViewPageTarget: Use CSS instead of JS for DOM hiding/muting [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/188733 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88590) (owner: 10Krinkle)
[22:52:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class instead of jquery show/hide [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187618 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) 
[22:56:22] <ori>	 RoanKattouw: done & deployed to osmium
[22:56:48] <ori>	 i'll be over in a few mins
[22:58:16] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: MediaWiki theme: Regular and disabled buttons have different height - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87126#1019594 (10Etonkovidova)
[23:01:58] <wikibugs>	 3VisualEditor: Create test plan for VE on mobile evaluation for new users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88756#1019607 (10Jaredzimmerman-WMF) 3NEW
[23:12:16] <wikibugs>	 3OOjs-UI: PopupButtonWidget should probably open when focused and should close when blur - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87698#1019646 (10matmarex) Related (duplicate?): T88630
[23:15:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: Use css class instead of jquery show/hide (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187618 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[23:51:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Mooeypoo: Use css class instead of jquery show/hide [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187618 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87420)