[00:05:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Allow focus on any item in BookletLayout [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203236 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [00:05:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Focus the search box in the re-use citation dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203249 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91479) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [00:06:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Close inspectors when dialog opens [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201632 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93638) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [00:32:42] (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203265 [00:34:54] gwicke: can I get a +2 on that ^ ? [00:35:49] (03CR) 10GWicke: [C: 031] Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203265 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [00:36:03] ori: I'd prefer if the VE folks added the +2 [00:36:10] Krenair? [00:36:17] Haha, I was going to say so close : [00:36:18] :p [00:36:28] let's see [00:36:45] oh, ew [00:36:54] WMF-specific change? [00:37:01] I guess maybe OK for restbase... [00:37:25] I guess in labs it'll just fail [00:37:43] Yeah. And any third-party wiki attempting to use restbase [00:38:13] it doesn't run unless config.restbaseUrl is set [00:38:35] (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 032] Follow-up Ifa18938: Fix cursoring in nested table cells [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203108 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95574) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:38:53] Wait, is the WMF puppet change I saw you doing earlier relevant to this change? [00:39:05] yes. it is linked to from the commit. [00:39:13] Is it a dependency? [00:39:16] Or does it just speed things up by having it return quicker? [00:39:23] just speed things up [00:39:31] oh, that's probably OK [00:39:45] yeah, it'll propagate in <20 minutes [00:40:57] Can we document this alongside our definition of wgVisualEditorRestbaseURL in VisualEditor.php? [00:41:22] in this patch, you mean? [00:41:26] yes [00:41:32] sure [00:41:36] i'll amend [00:41:39] thanks [00:42:50] gwicke, is restbase intended to be really wmf-specific, or rather generic? [00:43:24] Krenair: it's generic, but we have a couple of modules that are MW-specific [00:43:54] we'll probably move those to a separate package [00:43:59] (03PS2) 10Ori.livneh: Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203265 [00:44:00] restbase-mod-mw or the like [00:44:12] MW-specific is totally cool for VE's MW extension, I'm just very cautious of introducing WMF-infrastructure-specific things into it [00:44:13] or -wmf [00:44:32] yeah [00:44:36] We know that there is a lot of interest from third party wikis into VE-MW [00:44:55] I don't think anybody is planning to keep this solution around for long [00:45:06] Krenair, updated [00:45:13] (not that I'd be saying anything different if there wasn't, admittedly :P) [00:45:56] once we have an entry point at the main wiki url we can remove this pinging again [00:53:31] ori, gwicke: is this puppet change going to apply on beta? [00:55:42] TrevorP|Away: could you take at http://jdloft.github.io/toolbar-proto/ it seems the css to set some font is missing [00:56:29] Krenair: yes [00:56:34] if there is a restbase in beta [00:56:39] restbase-beta.wmflabs.org [00:57:21] Otherwise we wouldn't have started to depend on it in production [00:58:38] it hasn't applied there yet [00:58:45] but you're overthinking this [00:58:56] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203265 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [00:58:57] yeah [00:59:23] thanks :) it's late so I don't think I'll try to sync the cherry-picks, I'll just ask greg-g tomorrow [01:00:38] yay for friday deploys :P [01:01:39] friday deploys are the spice of life [01:03:02] Krenair: the preconnect not happening in labs should not be the end of the world [01:10:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow-up Ifa18938: Fix cursoring in nested table cells [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203108 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95574) (owner: 10Esanders) [01:10:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203265 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [01:27:55] TrevorParscal: ^^^ [01:28:15] howdy [01:28:20] what am I looking at? [01:28:34] IRC channel.... it's an old communication protocol from the 70s, mostly used by programmers these days [01:28:43] the lines of text represent messages [01:29:17] sorry, long day :P [01:31:01] TrevorP|Away: could you take at http://jdloft.github.io/toolbar-proto/ it seems the css to set some font is missing [01:33:29] we recently dropped specifying such things in OOjs UI [01:33:56] you need to add something like "body { font-family: sans-serif; }" to the page [01:48:21] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 7JavaScript: LivePreview: Since 1.25wmf12 in 'section=new' mode the section header is not shown - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84877#1196571 (10Ricordisamoa) [02:03:24] TrevorP|Away: Ah thanks [03:55:56] I m trying to modify a label, for this i m using setlabel as this.setlabel(ooui.defermsg(....)) Is it correct implementation [03:57:41] 10VisualEditor: Link editor autocomplete won't let me add a space at the end - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95646#1196753 (10Arlolra) 3NEW [04:32:35] I m trying to modify a label, for this i m using setlabel as this.setlabel(ooui.defermsg(....)) Is it correct implementation [07:03:44] (03CR) 10Divec: "It is not possible for the cursor holder to be a sibling of a ce=false node that is in a restricted context, like an
  • . Hopefully most" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 (owner: 10Divec) [07:16:54] 10Citoid, 10Beta-Cluster: On beta cluster citoid should self update and reload after change is merged - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95652#1196889 (10hashar) 3NEW [07:17:26] 10Citoid: Citoid Syntaxerror on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95616#1195947 (10hashar) I have filled {T95652} to get the code to auto update and the service to reload. [08:05:28] (03PS8) 10Divec: WIP: Cursor holders for native cursoring to ce=false nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 [08:06:14] (03CR) 10Divec: "Patch Set 8 uses DOM walking (instead of DM) to find adjacent ce=false nodes" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 (owner: 10Divec) [08:08:49] 10Citoid: Citoid Syntaxerror on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95616#1196963 (10mobrovac) Citoid is now up, but Zotero refuses to start on `deployment-sca01`. Investigating ... [08:34:32] 10OOjs-UI, 10Living-Style-Guide, 7Design: LSG navbar & context bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95657#1196979 (10violetto) 3NEW a:3Prtksxna [08:37:03] 10OOjs-UI, 10Living-Style-Guide, 7Design: LSG Homepage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95658#1196988 (10violetto) 3NEW a:3Prtksxna [08:37:34] 10OOjs-UI, 10Living-Style-Guide, 7Design: Table of contents on LSG - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95659#1196995 (10violetto) 3NEW a:3Prtksxna [08:38:24] 10OOjs-UI, 10Living-Style-Guide, 7Design: Code snippet styling - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95660#1197002 (10violetto) 3NEW a:3Prtksxna [08:40:47] 10OOjs-UI, 10Living-Style-Guide, 7Design: Apply typography, space, and layout styles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95661#1197012 (10violetto) 3NEW a:3Prtksxna [08:41:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-15_(1.26wmf2): Can't cursor left/right while editing a nested table cell without jumping back to a table selection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95574#1197021 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved p... [08:42:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-15_(1.26wmf2): Can't cursor left/right while editing a nested table cell without jumping back to a table selection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95574#1194852 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [08:42:28] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-15_(1.26wmf2): Citation does not get added when the autofill citation dialog is open in the background - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93638#1197029 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open... [08:52:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-15_(1.26wmf2): When you open the Cite > Re-use dialog, the cursor should be placed in the search box - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91479#1197038 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Low>3Normal [08:53:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-15_(1.26wmf2): When you open the Cite > Re-use dialog, the cursor should be placed in the search box - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91479#1197041 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [08:55:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Parsoid-Nowiki: in VisualEditor linking a part of a word to a page with a different title adds an unnecessary nowiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95272#1197047 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF Indeed. This is performing exactly what the user as... [09:12:44] 10VisualEditor: Link editor autocomplete won't let me add a space at the end - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95646#1197071 (10geraki) Also in Mozilla Firefox 37.0.1 on Linux Mint. [09:15:41] 10Citoid: Citoid Syntaxerror on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95616#1197074 (10mobrovac) After conducting some pillow talk with trebuchet, everything is in its place now. The issue is not completely resolved in that zotero runs on `deployment-zotero01` while citoid is on `deployment-sca01`. [... [09:26:23] (03CR) 10Werdna: "I actually added these icons to the iconography patch directly. I don't really mind where they go, but if they go here, then I can remove " [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201639 (owner: 10Violetto) [09:31:21] (03CR) 10Esanders: WIP: Cursor holders for native cursoring to ce=false nodes (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 (owner: 10Divec) [09:35:48] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] WIP: Cursor holders for native cursoring to ce=false nodes (035 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 (owner: 10Divec) [09:50:48] 10VisualEditor: Create minimal standalone demo for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95665#1197146 (10Esanders) 3NEW a:3Esanders [09:54:23] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector: Move jQuery.i18n module to core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95666#1197189 (10Esanders) 3NEW [09:56:03] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector: Create concatenated 'distribution' version of jQuery.i18n - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667#1197196 (10Esanders) 3NEW [09:59:12] edsanders: What do you mean by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95665 ? [09:59:55] the SA demo is too complex [10:00:12] you should be able to get a VE instance with ~6 lines [10:00:26] for documentation [10:00:33] Does that mean there should be a default toolbar you don't have to change? [10:00:42] Should it load modules by auto-discovery? [10:00:45] Etc. [10:03:10] 10VisualEditor: Create minimal standalone demo for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95665#1197223 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [10:03:15] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector: Create concatenated 'distribution' version of jQuery.i18n - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667#1197226 (10Esanders) [10:03:17] 10VisualEditor: Create minimal standalone demo for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95665#1197225 (10Esanders) [10:03:48] you can use the sa.target [10:04:20] We could also put some nice docs up on visualeditor.org or whatever. [10:04:26] With the live demo. [10:12:58] Krinkle: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/203293/ needs a bit of a better message. [10:13:07] Krinkle: Will draft and ask your approval? [10:16:36] James_F: OK [10:42:12] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Provide concatenated distribution files for libraries which don't [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203308 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667) [10:42:56] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 5Patch-For-Review: Create concatenated 'distribution' version of jQuery.i18n - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667#1197302 (10Esanders) The above fix solves the problem for VE, but the functionality should be upstreamed. [10:43:25] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 5Patch-For-Review: Create concatenated 'distribution' versions of jquery.i18n and jquery.uls.data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667#1197311 (10Esanders) [10:44:56] (03CR) 10Krinkle: Provide concatenated distribution files for libraries which don't (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203308 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667) (owner: 10Esanders) [10:55:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Performance: ve.init.mw.ViewPageTarget.prototype.setupToolbar called twice - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91595#1197342 (10Krinkle) 5Open>3Resolved [10:59:23] Krinkle: Yay for accidental fixes. ;-) [10:59:47] Krenair: Is there a way other than mw-grep to find all wikis that have created MediaWiki:Visualeditor-quick-access-characters.json ? [11:00:28] you could run a script against the tools replica to work it out easily [11:00:33] relatively easily [11:00:48] I'm actually not so sure mwgrep would be useful here [11:01:04] unless you know how the search backend works and can modify it to do that :p [11:04:38] Ha. OK. [11:04:50] * James_F will only list the one example, then. [11:06:15] * Krenair will take a quick look for you [11:06:53] Not the end of the world. :-) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Special_characters [11:08:37] I only found enwiki [11:09:31] * James_F nods. [11:09:38] That's probably true. [11:10:04] At some point no doubt MatmaRex will set it up for plwiki. ;-) [11:13:06] (In case you're wondering about all the Wikimedia-Site-requests changes to the workboard for VE, I told Dereckson that you can handle the process etc. yourself. He's trying to organise the huge backlog a bit, so hopefully random small wiki config changes don't keep getting lost/ignored) [11:13:28] * James_F nods. [11:15:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-Performance: VisualEditor: Editing a transclusion with many templates hangs the browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71799#1197363 (10Krinkle) I can reproduce this in latest Chrome canary. The tab becomes entirely unresponsive. Looking at t... [11:16:10] James_F: ^ This is bad. [11:16:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 10MediaWiki-Language-converter, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Decide on a strategy for supporting language variants in VisualEditor (or decide to give up) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95674#1197364 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW a:3Jdforrester-WMF [11:17:00] Krinkle: Is there a sane justification for it being a template? [11:17:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Editing a transclusion with many templates hangs the browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71799#1197372 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [11:18:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 10MediaWiki-Language-converter, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Decide on a strategy for supporting language variants in VisualEditor (or decide to give up) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95674#1197375 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [11:18:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Support language variant conversion labels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49913#1197374 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [11:26:03] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Tag v0.9.8 [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203248 [11:28:47] 10VisualEditor: Spurious scrolling when creating links at the top of the screen in long articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95360#1197395 (10TheDJ) I was able to confirm this in my Safari. Interestingly enough, it only does it the very first time. [11:29:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Spurious scrolling when creating links at the top of the screen in long articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95360#1197398 (10TheDJ) [11:43:54] James_F, it's unclear what we need to do at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92596 [11:56:05] (03CR) 10TheDJ: "I'll review this this weekend." [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/197737 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93075) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [12:06:58] Krenair: What happens if mw.user isn't loaded (network breakage, etc.)? [12:33:11] James_F, probably would get undefined not a function errors [12:34:01] and so nothing logged? [12:34:25] * James_F nods. [12:39:38] or maybe just mw.user is undefined [12:57:45] (03PS3) 10Paladox: Add skin.json [skins/Vector] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203047 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87875) [12:58:32] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: Flow shows the wrong values for magic words after the comment is saved (it works on preview) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95681#1197591 (10He7d3r) [13:50:11] !log Pool integration-slave-precise-1012..integration-slave-precise-1014 [14:02:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Spurious scrolling when creating links at the top of the screen in long articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95360#1197803 (10AxelBoldt) If you close the first link inspector window, scroll down another screenful, and create a new link, the spurious scrolli... [14:13:53] Krinkle: You coming over today? Might be my last here. [14:14:24] James_F: Could do in a bit. Just about to get some groceries. [14:14:29] * James_F nods. [14:18:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Typing "{{" opens the template dialog off screen on iOS Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95410#1197894 (10Nnemo) This bug is a different issue. The opposite issue, in a way. Here, no dialog is shown, and no scrolling occurs — as far as I noticed.... [14:21:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: When I add "last1" to a citation template, automatically add the related "first1" parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95695#1197913 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [14:26:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Keep list of parameters open when I'm inserting a template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95696#1197923 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [14:35:02] 10OOjs-UI, 10UI-Standardization, 7Design: Create tag list / tokenizer / capsule controls widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88250#1197955 (10Anomie) > Phabricator's widget is a pretty good implementation to copy Except for the part where it only shows you 5 possibilities, so if you want to browse t... [14:47:16] 10Citoid: Citoid should be validating date fields - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95016#1198013 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) This might not be a good idea. What will you do for quarterly periodicals, whose correct date is "Fall 2010"? You'd have to set up a list of valid date-related keywords to accept. The lis... [14:50:29] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Get Citoid's citation template outside of ref tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95702#1198038 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [15:05:53] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Provide simplified API for getting DOM from a surface [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203343 [15:07:23] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Use new simplified conversion API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203344 [15:07:57] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Provide concatenated distribution files for libraries which don't [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203308 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667) [15:07:59] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Provide simplified API for getting DOM from a surface [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203343 [15:17:43] 10Citoid: Book ISBN links are broken in preview window because of /w/ instead of /wiki/ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95700#1198099 (10LuisVilla) [15:18:03] 10Citoid: Book ISBN links are broken in preview window because of /w/ instead of /wiki/ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95700#1198015 (10LuisVilla) Sorry, forgot to add a project, which would have made this more clear - this is through citoid. Project added. [15:23:55] 10OOjs-UI, 10UI-Standardization, 7Design: Create tag list / tokenizer / capsule controls widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88250#1198126 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T88250#1197955, @Anomie wrote: >> Phabricator's widget is a pretty good implementation to copy > > Except for the part where it only s... [15:24:54] 10OOjs-UI, 10UI-Standardization, 7Design: Create tag list / tokenizer / capsule controls widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88250#1198127 (10werdna) I needed one of these for my other job this week. [Selectize.js](https://brianreavis.github.io/selectize.js/) is an outstanding choice if we can get ov... [15:39:23] James_F: are you around for a quick question? (it's not urgent) [15:39:34] Sure. [15:39:55] great :) [15:40:00] I'm looking at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71494 [15:40:11] In https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=113669090 there were many similar `span` tags with the FR language code, even though it's of the French Wikipedia; I'm guessing it's due to the mix of French and English text. Is this the same issue, or another one? (and should I open another ticket about it?) [15:40:38] it's on* [15:41:44] Hmm. I thought that we'd fixed that issue. [15:41:50] It looks like the copy-and-paste issue. [15:41:56] Maybe we only fixed part of it. [15:42:19] Should I reopen with the comment above? [15:45:34] James_F: ^ (I prefer to ask to save you time in triage later.) [15:46:06] guillom: Probably best to make a new task. [15:46:12] guillom: It might well not be related. [15:46:20] James_F: Got it; Thank you! [15:46:26] guillom: (But comment on the old one so interested parties are alerted.) [15:46:34] I shall! [15:46:41] Thanks [15:48:42] Thank you. :-) [15:50:17] 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: added on the French Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95708#1198185 (10gpaumier) 3NEW [15:50:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-01_(1.25wmf24), and 2 others: Insufficient span tags stripping from copy-and-paste in Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71494#748882 (10gpaumier) See also: T95708 [16:02:30] hallo [16:02:50] is it right that while a page is edited in VisualEditor, wgAction equals 'view'? [16:03:38] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: LivePreview: Wrong firstHeading in preview of new pages on dewiki with German user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1198231 (10Fomafix) 3NEW [16:03:47] MatmaRex: ^ [16:04:05] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: LivePreview: Wrong firstHeading in preview of new pages on dewiki with German user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1198239 (10Fomafix) [16:04:08] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 7JavaScript, 7Tracking: Live preview (requires JavaScript) feature bugs (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41272#1198238 (10Fomafix) [16:05:03] aharoni, hmm [16:05:07] I think so [16:05:19] yes [16:05:32] (intended behavior) [16:05:38] I haven't thought of any weird cases where it isn't [16:05:41] I'd say that it's conceivable when clicking "Edit" on a page, but it doesn't seem totally right that it would be 'view' if I go directly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII?veaction=edit [16:05:54] MatmaRex: intended? [16:06:17] We do check wgAction in the desktop part of VE-MW [16:07:35] wgAction will be view regardless of whatever you set veaction to [16:07:39] Doesn't seem quite right to me, but let me ask differently: [16:07:51] If I'm going directly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII?veaction=edit , what's the right way to find out that I'm actually editing? [16:08:07] on the frontend [16:08:09] aharoni: similar to using 'veaction' rather than 'action' in the URL [16:09:05] preferably one that works for both VE and wikitext [16:09:37] is there such a thing or do I have to check for both? [16:09:57] aharoni: ve && ve.init && ve.init.target && ve.init.target.active [16:10:26] this will be true only if VE is currently open [16:10:56] The horror. [16:10:57] aharoni: but if you want to check this on page load, beware of race conditions, i have no idea what order this is done in [16:11:03] It's kinda robust and awful at the same time. [16:11:19] aharoni: you need all the '&&' because ve.init might not be loaded yet [16:11:28] (and will not be until the user bonks the edit button) [16:12:01] aharoni: perhaps you actually want your script to be notified when VE is loaded/opened? [16:12:33] no, I need to do something *only* if the page is being just viewed/read/rendered [16:12:37] not created or edited [16:12:49] or previewed [16:12:55] or viewing diffs [16:12:59] or history [16:13:03] or some such [16:13:04] oh. hm.. [16:13:08] just reading an article [16:13:15] le awfulness [16:14:02] Q: Is this a known bug? When I VE-edit a page at mw.o, after I click "save", the newest diff (with my changes) is not shown. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Quiddity_%28WMF%29/sandbox [16:14:13] MatmaRex: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94845 [16:14:33] I did it for the source editor with wgAction, but apparently it's 'view' while editing in VE [16:16:45] aharoni: hmm, but do you need to not show the links when editing a page? as i understand it, you mostly want to not show them when the page doesn't exist. that would be independent of VE [16:17:04] (perhaps i am not entirely understanding the task) [16:17:31] mmmm... while editing an existing page, it's not a disaster, but not really needed [16:17:37] but when creating it's definitely not needed [16:18:44] but since you mentioned it, do you know of an easy to tell that it's being created? (I need it for another task) [16:20:10] quiddity: Yes, fixed but not backported yet. [16:20:17] thanks :) [16:22:37] $title->exists() should do the work [16:30:03] 10OOjs-UI, 10UI-Standardization, 7Design: Create tag list / tokenizer / capsule controls widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88250#1198298 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) There's also [[ https://select2.github.io/examples.html#tags | select2 ]]. Note that select2 is already being used in 2 extensions: Semanti... [16:30:41] MatmaRex: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203364 [16:32:38] ouch :) [16:34:42] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] Add an example property to parameters [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/194386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53049) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [16:36:28] 10OOjs-UI, 10UI-Standardization, 7Design: Create tag list / tokenizer / capsule controls widget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88250#1198312 (10matmarex) MediaWiki core has [[http://harvesthq.github.io/chosen/|Chosen]], which is yet another implementation of the same thing. It is used at least by some... [16:38:49] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 04-1] Provide simplified API for getting DOM from a surface (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203343 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:45:25] (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: Focus on the first input in template dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203237 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95450) [16:45:50] 10VisualEditor, 5Patch-For-Review: Citation dialogs should have cursor positioned in the first field as in Template/Media - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95450#1198342 (10Mooeypoo) a:3Mooeypoo [16:48:34] (03CR) 10Divec: WIP: Cursor holders for native cursoring to ce=false nodes (035 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 (owner: 10Divec) [16:49:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add an example property to parameters [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/194386 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53049) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [16:54:58] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10VisualEditor: LivePreview: Wrong firstHeading in preview of new pages on dewiki with German user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1198375 (10matmarex) VisualEditor has the same problem: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t... [16:55:23] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: LivePreview: Wrong firstHeading in preview of new pages on dewiki with German user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1198377 (10matmarex) [16:57:31] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: LivePreview: Wrong firstHeading in preview of new pages on dewiki with German user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1198384 (10matmarex) THERE it is: T51951. (Tip: just view the list... [16:57:45] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: LivePreview: Wrong firstHeading in preview of new pages on dewiki with German user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1198386 (10matmarex) [16:59:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Window title changed to "{{„}}{{{1|$1}}}{{“}} – Erstellen" when creating a new page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51951#1198391 (10matmarex) [17:00:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Window title changed to "{{„}}{{{1|$1}}}{{“}} – Erstellen" when creating a new page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51951#1198397 (10matmarex) This is still a problem, currently only visible when creating a new page because https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit... [17:01:46] (03PS9) 10Divec: Cursor holders for native cursoring to ce=false nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201874 [17:04:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Window title changed to "{{„}}{{{1|$1}}}{{“}} – Erstellen" when creating a new page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51951#1198404 (10matmarex) (No "Parse error at position 0" since T54479 was fixed.) [17:12:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Add a "Change template" option - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95718#1198422 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [17:18:22] mooeypoo: hello, i was going through vega but the first task for the project is to make the graph viewable in VE, it would be helpful if you could provide some starting pointers for it i wanted to start working on it, thanks [17:19:20] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Prevent JS breakage on cached pages that refer to _mwq - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94369#1198441 (10Krinkle) I noticed this too. However it's already been 10 days and it wasn't deployed for more than a few days, so only a small fraction of the Varnish cache contains this righ... [17:19:28] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Prevent JS breakage on cached pages that refer to _mwq - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94369#1198442 (10Krinkle) p:5Triage>3Lowest [17:20:16] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 5MW-1.25-release, 7Wikimedia-log-errors: ResourceLoader timestamp for user modules should not be computed for logged-in users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94810#1198447 (10Krinkle) [17:20:31] rits, I didn't yet look at the vega code enough to set a specific way to do it yet. How does vega work in view mode? It has a javascript interpreter, I'm assuming, that's attached to the page and searches for the tags ? [17:21:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: added on the French Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95708#1198451 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal a:3Esanders [17:22:39] yes mainly works on javascript, i am not clear about the graph tag search still of vega that how it does that [17:24:10] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 5MW-1.25-release, 7Wikimedia-log-errors: User modules constantly invalidate their cache timestamp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94810#1198467 (10Krinkle) [17:25:46] mooeypoo:^ [17:27:39] rits, you'll need to go through the code and try to see which part you need for actually generating the graph itself. This part we will need to embed in VE as part of the Graph extension ,so we'll need to make sure it loads from within VE, which will probably be best done by a module. [17:28:22] James_F, mooeypoo: just wanted to share some joy: https://twitter.com/WhatToTranslate/status/586578502893219840 [17:28:34] aharoni: Nice! [17:29:01] mooeypoo: yes i was following the Math extension as its done the same way in VE, am i right [17:29:05] aharoni, yep just saw it and retweeted! :) [17:29:20] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 7Performance: Remove render-blocking JavaScript - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95152#1198481 (10Krinkle) [17:29:28] * aharoni is wondering whether Jerusalem pubs are serving beer and champagne tonight [17:29:50] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Support loading legacy "site" and "user" modules with mw.loader - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T32358#1198491 (10Krinkle) p:5High>3Normal [17:30:00] rits, yes, exactly. The Math extension is a little complicated, but it has the same idea -- the specific scripts for showing the math are separated into modules, then we load them in the VE side of the modules and use them in the VE side of the extension -- if that makes sense. [17:30:20] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Support loading ResourceLoader modules into Web Workers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T57642#1198494 (10Krinkle) p:5Normal>3Low [17:31:10] mooeypoo: yes it does i will go through its work flow then to understand its working [17:32:17] rits, search for "ResourceLoader" in mediawiki.org [17:32:25] (my copy/paste isn't working for some extremely annoying reason) [17:32:28] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Wrong output of duplicate stylesheet links for site module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31720#1198521 (10Krinkle) p:5Normal>3Low [17:32:47] mooeypoo: ok [17:33:08] rits, that might help understanding the idae of the modules [17:33:13] and how they work for the extensions [17:33:48] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Wrong output of duplicate stylesheet links for site module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T31720#1198532 (10Krinkle) 5Open>3stalled >>! In T31720#325801, @brion wrote: > That patch looks a bit off -- it just collapses an array of four empty arrays into an array of one empty a... [17:34:05] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10Librarization, 7Technical-Debt: CSSMin library calls global function wfExpandUrl() - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88914#1198537 (10Krinkle) [17:34:08] mooeypoo: ok i am going through it, thanks :) [17:34:36] np! let me know if you get stuck; the documentation could use some tweaking, it's not always perfect [17:35:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: {{Italic title}} produced two invisible-template icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95720#1198540 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [17:35:50] mooeypoo: yes i will, you are always there thanks :) [17:37:13] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Get Citoid's citation template outside of ref tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95702#1198560 (10Mvolz) [17:40:06] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Get Citoid's citation template outside of ref tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95702#1198584 (10Mooeypoo) Interesting. It's doable, of course, but, I'm not sure that adding another button is the best UI. This should go through design and... [17:41:35] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: Flow shows the wrong values for magic words after the comment is saved (it works on preview) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95681#1198589 (10EBernhardson) p:5Triage>3Normal [17:44:34] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: OutputPage::addModuleStyles() should throw an exception if the listed modules have dependencies - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92458#1198628 (10Krinkle) [17:45:53] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 7Performance, 7Varnish: Investigate variance in load.php response times (www.webpagetest.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91198#1198641 (10Krinkle) [17:46:41] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: ResourceLoader: Remove obsolete closures from files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50886#1198650 (10Krinkle) [17:53:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Place page meta-data in expected order - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52882#1198693 (10gpaumier) There's also an inconsistency in how VE inserts `{{DEFAULTSORT}}` and categories. If you edit the page's properties to add a `{{DEFAULTSORT}}`, appl... [17:53:36] 10VisualEditor: Save dialog's edit summary field is in monospace font - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95590#1198694 (10matmarex) [17:56:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Save dialog's edit summary field is in monospace font - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95590#1198715 (10matmarex) Affects all pages. OOjs UI regression, fixed by 36ab1107a91cadfc8ce20053a514408c13aa3ff5, which is deployed on betalabs but not production wikis yet. [17:57:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Save dialog's edit summary field is in monospace font - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95590#1198719 (10matmarex) [17:57:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Spurious scrolling when creating links at the top of the screen in long articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95360#1198725 (10Etonkovidova) It's confirmed in Chrome/FF(Mac) production and 1.26wmf1 (4a3d85d). I also noticed that spurious scroll up during o... [17:57:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Spurious scrolling when creating links at the top of the screen in long articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95360#1198726 (10Etonkovidova) p:5Triage>3Normal [17:57:53] 5OOjs-UI-0.9.5, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-08_(1.26wmf1): Some form fields use monospace font ('Insert template' text-area boxes, 'Save' dialog edit summary) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94450#1198727 (10matmarex) [17:58:14] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10MediaWiki-Database, 7Performance: MessageBlobStore::clear queries take 40+ seconds - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89550#1198730 (10Krinkle) Where do these calls primarily come from? Do they occur while browsing the wiki? On write actions via index.php? In api.php? In load... [17:58:17] eugh, why didn't we backport that. [17:58:21] really ugly. [18:05:27] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Continuous-Integration, 10Flow, and 2 others: Create Jenkins builds for Editing across repositories (MobileFrontend, VisualEditor etc) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90647#1198773 (10Jdlrobson) [18:06:22] MatmaRex: Which one? [18:06:35] Krinkle: monospace font in all textareas [18:06:37] in OOUI [18:06:42] Aye [18:07:14] (two dupes filed and people complaining on wikis) [18:07:44] 10VisualEditor: betalabs displays oo-ui-icon-help icon as mirrored right-to-left - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95636#1198802 (10matmarex) Augh, this is because I'm a dummy. [18:08:55] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Get Citoid's citation template outside of ref tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95702#1198810 (10Jdforrester-WMF) It's "doable" now: Open the citation as a reference (double-click), cut the template, paste it into the editor. But… I'm no... [18:09:44] 10OOjs-UI, 10VisualEditor: betalabs displays oo-ui-icon-help icon as mirrored right-to-left in Hebrew - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95636#1198833 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex [18:09:55] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: colorize-svg: Generate language-specific rules for images even if equal to default ones [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203378 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95636) [18:10:50] (03PS2) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: colorize-svg: Generate language-specific rules for images even if equal to default ones [oojs/ui] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203378 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95636) [18:11:11] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Provide concatenated distribution files for libraries which don't [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203308 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95667) [18:11:13] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Provide simplified API for getting DOM from a surface [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203343 [18:11:58] 10OOjs-UI: OOjs UI: Toolbar groups should support sub-groups as items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74159#1198868 (10matmarex) [18:12:00] 10OOjs-UI: ToolGroupTool not outlined while expanded but not hovered - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95274#1198867 (10matmarex) [18:12:37] 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Link with as only label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95730#1198872 (10gpaumier) 3NEW [18:12:52] 10OOjs-UI: ToolGroupTool not outlined while expanded but not hovered - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95274#1198885 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3Lowest I don't think this is worth fixing in ToolGroupTool, but hopefully will be corrected when toolbar group nesting (T74159) is properly implemented. [18:17:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Creating a link after scrolling moves text in VE edit window unpredictably - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95360#1198929 (10AxelBoldt) [18:24:29] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Create minimal demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/203380 [18:24:39] kirstenMA, so this patch here ^^^ [18:24:46] creates a very minimal demo for getting VE running [18:24:58] once that has been merged you can update your code and try it out [18:25:30] you'll need to run 'npm install' and 'grunt build' but I assume you have that working from your OOUI setup? [18:25:31] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: Flow shows different values for magic words after the comment is saved (compared to VE preview) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95681#1198994 (10Mattflaschen) [18:26:36] but basically lines 11-21: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/203380/1/demos/ve/demo.minimal.js [18:26:37] thanks, edsanders. Yes, I was doing that all with ooui setup. [18:26:45] is all the JS you need to get VE going [18:26:57] great! [18:27:18] line 24 "target.getSurface().getHtml()" is what gets you your HTML back out of VE [18:27:39] okay [18:27:56] I'm thinking about trying to simplify the setup side of it, but I'll let you know [18:28:02] okay. [18:28:05] thank you [18:29:00] if you have gerrit set up you can play around with that code before it is merged [18:29:07] using git review -d 203380 [18:29:22] or you can just use the instructions on the patch page: [18:29:25] git fetch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/VisualEditor/VisualEditor refs/changes/80/203380/1 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD [18:29:43] (doesn't require gerrit/git review to have been setup) [18:30:50] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 7Technical-Debt: Introduce MediaWiki:Mainpage.css - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78418#1199049 (10Jdlrobson) [18:30:50] that command will point your local copy to that particular patch. To reset it to the master branch just run 'git checkout master' [18:30:59] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 7JavaScript: ResourceLoader does not load the module for the Charinsert gadget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88887#1199050 (10Krinkle) >>! In T88887#1023702, @Ciencia_Al_Poder wrote: >>(..) It would make sense if the gadget is loaded before mediawi... [18:31:27] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 7Technical-Debt: Introduce MediaWiki:Mainpage.css - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78418#844728 (10Jdlrobson) Should I create an RFC for this? [18:31:42] okay. I'll give it a shot [18:38:47] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: LivePreview: Page heading for "Creating" should support parser functions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1199077 (10Krinkle) [18:38:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Place page meta-data in expected order - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52882#1199078 (10He7d3r) [18:39:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Window title for "Creating" should support parser functions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51951#1199084 (10Krinkle) [18:40:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Window title for "Creating" should support parser functions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51951#545415 (10Krinkle) This and T95711 are wontfix. These localisation messages should not use parser functions. This was never intentionally supported and whatever local... [18:40:49] 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: LivePreview: Page heading for "Creating" should support parser functions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95711#1199098 (10Krinkle) This and T51951 are wontfix. These localisation messages should not use parser functions. This was never intentionally su... [18:41:18] edsanders: got it! Thanks for the instructions. [19:03:46] TrevorParscal, are you around? [19:13:43] James_F: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=476048& [19:13:43] :P [19:13:46] Affects VE too [19:21:11] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph, 10Parsoid, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 3 others: Outreachy and GSoC 2015 Proposal for Graph editing in Visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93788#1199282 (10Rits) [19:26:01] mooeypoo: in a very long meeting.... [19:29:54] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 7Wikimedia-log-errors: PHP Notice: Uninitialized string offset: includes/libs/JavaScriptMinifier.php on line 571 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75556#1199315 (10Krinkle) [19:39:08] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10MediaWiki-Installer, 5MW-1.25-release, 5Patch-For-Review: Update.php should purge ResourceLoader cache (fixes stale links after moving a wiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37472#1199355 (10Krinkle) a:3Krinkle [19:42:43] 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader: Force