[00:00:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Krinkle: bin: Enable 'set -e' and 'set -u' in bash scripts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207323 
[00:00:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: bin: Remove buildi18n-json.sh, unused since 2013 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207325 
[00:00:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove obsolete bin/generateDocs.sh script [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207316 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:00:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: bin: Enable 'set -e' and 'set -u' in bash scripts [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207317 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:00:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: "Ran all three script to ensure they run error-less and and produce clean no-op branches." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207323 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:01:47] <James_F>	 Krinkle: You doing the same for MW core versions of these scripts?
[00:02:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Sharmaans: "Hello Dr. Schubotz," [extensions/MathSearch] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206465 (owner: 10Sharmaans)
[00:04:55] <Krinkle>	 Sure
[00:07:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] bin: Enable 'set -e' and 'set -u' in bash scripts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207323 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:07:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] bin: Remove buildi18n-json.sh, unused since 2013 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207325 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:10:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "(Let's kill the other one too.)" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207325 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:10:33] <Krinkle>	 Oh right
[00:10:36] <Krinkle>	 Yeah, go for it :D
[00:10:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: bin: Enable 'set -e' and 'set -u' in bash scripts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207323 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:10:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: bin: Remove buildi18n-*.sh, unused since 2013 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207325 
[00:11:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] bin: Remove buildi18n-*.sh, unused since 2013 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207325 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:13:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Follow-up a4bbe98cd: Kill emptiness hack check in bin/updateSubmodule.sh too [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207330 
[00:14:00] <James_F>	 (And that, please.)
[00:14:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: bin: Remove buildi18n-*.sh, unused since 2013 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207325 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:36:30] <gwicke>	 James_F: do you prefer to wait with wikipedias until tomorrow?
[00:36:47] <James_F>	 gwicke: I think so. Just in case.
[00:37:12] <gwicke>	 kk, lets schedule for tomorrow morning
[00:37:31] <gwicke>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/206320/
[00:40:28] <gwicke>	 {{done}}
[00:47:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] HtmlView: Move "default", "example", and "autovalue" under description [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207124 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:47:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Add example property to HTML rendering [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207123 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53049) (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:48:45] <James_F>	 gwicke: Thanks!
[00:49:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add example property to HTML rendering [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207123 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53049) (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:49:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: HtmlView: Move "default", "example", and "autovalue" under description [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207124 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[00:50:42] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Also, could you +2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207330/ please?
[00:51:30] <Krinkle>	 James_F: Unless I did it wrong in the other commit, that should be -n not -z
[00:51:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10GWicke: Revert "Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) 
[00:51:42] <Krinkle>	 -z means the variable is empty
[00:51:53] <James_F>	 Krinkle: I just copied it.
[00:51:57] <James_F>	 Krinkle: So…
[00:52:14] <Krinkle>	 I think the other was = not !=
[00:52:25] <James_F>	 Oh, right.
[00:52:38] <Krinkle>	 :)
[00:53:05] <Krinkle>	 Good catch though, I hadn't tested that one. I guess that one is broken right now
[00:53:13] <James_F>	 It is.
[00:53:16] <Krinkle>	 I tested the update-* scripts
[00:53:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: "why?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[00:54:10] <James_F>	 Krinkle: {{done}}
[00:54:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-1] Revert "Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect" (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[00:56:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10GWicke: Revert "Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect" (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[00:57:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] Follow-up a4bbe98cd: Kill emptiness hack check in bin/updateSubmodule.sh too [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207330 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[00:57:28] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Ta.
[00:58:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow-up a4bbe98cd: Kill emptiness hack check in bin/updateSubmodule.sh too [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207330 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[01:03:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10GWicke: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 
[01:03:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (owner: 10GWicke)
[01:07:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10GWicke: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) 
[01:09:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[01:10:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10GWicke: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) 
[01:10:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10GWicke: Revert "Update RESTBase pre-connect URL to hit /_preconnect" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207340 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[01:13:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 04-1] "commit message does not provide reason for reverting" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[01:14:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10GWicke: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) 
[01:16:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[01:16:59] <github>	 [13oojs.github.io] 15jdforrester created 06release-1.1.7 (+1 new commit): 02https://github.com/oojs/oojs.github.io/commit/aaa2aaba2330
[01:17:00] <github>	 13oojs.github.io/06release-1.1.7 14aaa2aab 15James D. Forrester: Publish v1.1.7 release from npm
[01:18:08] <github>	 [13oojs.github.io] 15jdforrester opened pull request #9: Publish v1.1.7 release from npm (06master...06release-1.1.7) 02https://github.com/oojs/oojs.github.io/pull/9
[01:22:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs to v1.1.7 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207350 
[01:26:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[01:26:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "PS2 is a rebase onto the OOjs release pull-through of the dependency." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[02:04:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (170bc6b) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207360 
[02:11:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] Update OOjs to v1.1.7 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207350 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:12:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (170bc6b) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207360 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:14:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs to v1.1.7 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207350 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[02:14:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (170bc6b) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207360 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[04:40:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 04-1] Add unregister method to ModelRegistry (033 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[09:36:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS14) 10Esanders: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 
[09:36:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Esanders: Separate inputting of internal and external links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207062 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93699) 
[09:36:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Esanders: Replacing current order of link suggestions [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207015 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93698) (owner: 10SuchetaG)
[10:09:18] <tnk>	 Hey, have installed VisualEditor on my mediawiki, but when pressing the "Edit" button the progress bar just hangs, inspection complains about this: Unknown dependency: oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced
[10:11:00] <tnk>	 Is it missing files in resources/lib/oojs-ui directory? 
[10:17:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS15) 10Esanders: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 
[10:17:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Esanders: Separate inputting of internal and external links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207062 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93699) 
[10:17:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Esanders: Replacing current order of link suggestions [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207015 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93698) (owner: 10SuchetaG)
[10:17:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Esanders: Only pull description from wikibase [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207411 
[10:21:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Separate inputting of internal and external links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207062 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93699) (owner: 10Esanders)
[13:40:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS16) 10Esanders: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 
[13:40:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Esanders: Follow redirects in the link inspector API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207440 
[14:12:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207062 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93699) (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:48:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Replacing current order of link suggestions [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207015 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93698) (owner: 10SuchetaG)
[14:50:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Replacing current order of link suggestions [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207015 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93698) (owner: 10SuchetaG)
[14:51:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "Let's do the insert-internal-with-http-as-external fix later." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207062 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93699) (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:51:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Only pull description from wikibase [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207411 (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:53:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Separate inputting of internal and external links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207062 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93699) (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:53:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Only pull description from wikibase [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207411 (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:53:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Follow redirects in the link inspector API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207440 (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:55:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow redirects in the link inspector API [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207440 (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:59:10] <James_F>	 edsanders: You working on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694 ?
[14:59:48] <James_F>	 (Sorry.)
[15:04:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Jforrester: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 (owner: 10Esanders)
[15:07:13] <edsanders>	 No, nirzar is
[15:07:45] <edsanders>	 at least that's what I told Trevor yesterday before I went out
[15:07:48] <James_F>	 edsanders: On the CSS and the hooking into the code? Or just replacing the assets?
[15:07:56] <James_F>	 edsanders: What's wrong with my tweaked assets at least for now?
[15:08:07] <edsanders>	 redesigning them to look good at 24x24 & 48x48
[15:08:43] <James_F>	 Could we put them in as-is now and replace the images later?
[15:08:48] <edsanders>	 ok
[15:08:51] * James_F just wants to get this mostly out the door.
[15:09:41] * edsanders is responsible for the quality of the code the team generates
[15:09:48] <James_F>	 Yes.
[15:09:56] <James_F>	 Which is why it's so high.
[15:16:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Esanders: Convert 'external' links to internal pages pasted into the search field [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201627 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94334) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[15:47:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Convert 'external' links to internal pages pasted into the search field [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/201627 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94334) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[15:49:08] <Krinkle>	 James_F: jscs has been unleashed
[15:49:28] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Woo. Full stack done?
[15:49:30] <Krinkle>	 and an associated grunt-jscs release
[15:49:33] <Krinkle>	 Yep
[15:49:34] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Time to write some patches?
[15:49:38] <Krinkle>	 Yeah :D
[15:49:53] <Krinkle>	 grunt-jscs v1.8.0 / node-jscs v1.13.0
[15:50:00] * James_F nods.
[15:50:14] <Krinkle>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816
[15:50:18] <Krinkle>	 I'll do a few to start with
[15:50:33] <James_F>	 Want me to take a couple?
[15:54:30] <Krinkle>	 James_F: Also updating karma-coverage (which fixes the bug where text-summary needs dir but shouldn't), and karma-chrome-launcher (which fixes the CHROME_BIN)
[15:55:09] <Krinkle>	 Both patches I submitted in February I think, but they made it :)
[15:56:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Bump various devDependencies [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207468 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816) 
[15:57:10] <James_F>	 Krinkle: ^^^ Like that? :-)
[15:58:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Krinkle: build: Bump dependencies [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207470 
[15:59:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Krinkle: build: Bump dependencies [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207470 
[15:59:15] <Krinkle>	 Right
[15:59:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: build: Bump various devDependencies [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207471 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816) 
[15:59:56] <Krinkle>	 James_F: Be sure to include the Gruntfile fixup as well
[16:00:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] build: Bump dependencies [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207470 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[16:01:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bump dependencies [unicodejs] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207470 (owner: 10Krinkle)
[16:02:17] <Krinkle>	 Looks like QUnit 1.18 has a new diff
[16:02:18] <Krinkle>	 finally
[16:02:21] <Krinkle>	 haven't seen this one yet
[16:04:32] <Krinkle>	 projects that support node.js should stay on 1.17 since node-qunit (third party) doesn't support 1.18 due to a bug
[16:04:46] <Krinkle>	 But VE is fine :)
[16:19:50] <gwicke>	 James_F, RoanKattouw_away, edsanders: see discussion in ops
[16:20:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Restored) 10Esanders: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:20:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Marcoil: WIP: T86782: Load module ext.cite.style [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207483 
[16:20:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: "@Physikerwelt please review. seems global has problems. so by using GLOBAL[''] fixed problem." [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206804 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88946) (owner: 10Paladox)
[16:21:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: T86782: Load module ext.cite.style [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207483 (owner: 10Marcoil)
[16:24:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[16:24:56] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw_away: So as we suspected, Apple did indeed not fix the off-by-one error in their JS JIT compiler in iOS 8.3 so jQuery update it is.. 
[16:26:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207345 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10GWicke)
[16:32:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Marcoil: WIP: T86782: Horrible hack to make the new Cite CSS appear in VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207487 
[16:33:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: T86782: Horrible hack to make the new Cite CSS appear in VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207487 (owner: 10Marcoil)
[16:37:52] <Krinkle>	 James_F: Could you merge the master patch for the jQuery update so that it makes it into the new wmf4?
[16:42:01] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Could you get the wmf3 one on the SWAT window or done out-of-order?
[16:43:07] <Krinkle>	 James_F: Already on SWAT for this evening
[16:43:15] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Ta.
[16:43:24] <Krinkle>	 thx
[16:43:32] <James_F>	 We should bump VE and OOjs UI too.
[16:44:13] <James_F>	 edsanders: Code doesn't need to be unabandoned to be tested with. :-)
[16:45:42] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 10Parsoid, 5Patch-For-Review: Use CSS to style Parsoid's Cite extension output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86782#1245994 (10marcoil) Preliminary patches are available in gerrit. They are all considered WIP, but pushing them to get early feedback on the general approach.  * https://gerrit.wik...
[16:47:13] <Krenair>	 Oh, that checkbox for tag editing/revdel thing relates to one of my first MediaWiki patches...
[16:47:24] <Krenair>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/6904/
[16:47:30] <edsanders>	 James_F, I want it to be hung off the end of other commits so other people testing it have it
[16:47:35] <James_F>	 Krenair: :-)
[16:47:39] <James_F>	 edsanders: Sure.
[16:47:52] <Krenair>	 Of course, I didn't cause the bug
[16:48:00] <Krenair>	 That's a newer thing
[16:48:07] <James_F>	 Indeed.
[16:48:14] <James_F>	 I'm sceptical it's a regression.
[16:48:18] <James_F>	 Because I never saw it working.
[16:48:19] <James_F>	 Did you?
[16:49:16] <Krenair>	 I doubt it ever worked
[16:49:24] <James_F>	 Yeah.
[16:49:28] <Krenair>	 because it didn't modify https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/6904/1/includes/logging/LogEventsList.php
[16:49:35] <James_F>	 Who wrote this tag editing thing, anyway?
[16:49:41] <Krenair>	 (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/203061/9 didn't, I mean)
[16:49:45] <James_F>	 Maybe we should revert the feature.
[16:49:45] <Krenair>	 TTO
[16:49:49] <Krenair>	 ... why?
[16:50:04] <James_F>	 Well, if it doesn't work, it seems poor form to taunt users with it.
[16:50:33] <Krenair>	 Why can't we simply fix the bug?
[16:50:56] <James_F>	 Why can't people implementing features make them work? 
[16:51:03] <Krenair>	 It does work for some users
[16:51:14] <James_F>	 Sysops and others who can delete pages.
[16:51:26] <James_F>	 Which isn't the best advert for equality. :-)
[16:51:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Esanders: Show different icons for different result types [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207120 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[16:51:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS17) 10Esanders: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 
[16:53:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Show different icons for different result types [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207120 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[16:53:51] <James_F>	 edsanders: Want to +2?
[16:54:20] <edsanders>	 I'd like code review
[16:55:11] <James_F>	 Krenair: Could you? We'd like to get it in before the cut.
[16:55:27] <Krenair>	 oh, the wmf4 cut?
[16:55:29] <James_F>	 (Sorry for the rush.)
[16:55:30] <James_F>	 Yeah.
[16:55:32] <Krenair>	 looking
[16:55:36] <James_F>	 Thanks.
[16:57:56] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: Icons for redirects, disambig, red link suggestions; default icon when there is no image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694#1246025 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:59:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Show different icons for different result types [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207120 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[16:59:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS18) 10Esanders: [NEVER MERGE] Local hack for testing link inspector [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206390 
[16:59:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Esanders: Make static methods static in linkCache [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207492 
[17:01:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show different icons for different result types [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207120 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[17:02:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:06:48] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Doesn't show wrong interlanguage interwiki link, so it can't be fixed either - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97547#1246056 (10Elitre) 3NEW
[17:08:23] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Mobile-Web: Extremely high amount of errors for anonymous editors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97494#1246083 (10Jdlrobson)
[17:13:27] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 5MW-1.25-release, 7Performance, 7Wikimedia-log-errors: User modules constantly invalidate their cache timestamp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94810#1246093 (10Krinkle) >>! In T94810#1199543, @Krinkle wrote: > I assume the reason these timestamps are computed from a startu...
[17:17:12] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: Icons for redirects, disambig, red link suggestions; default icon when there is no image - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93694#1246098 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved
[17:17:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: New search interface for link dialogue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76397#1246099 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[17:17:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 031] "Untested, looks good." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207492 (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:17:36] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-29_(1.26wmf4): New search interface for link dialogue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76397#1246101 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved
[17:19:23] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Any chance you could respond to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52707 in the next 30 minutes? It's going to be the third week in a row that it's discussed at the weekly triage at 11:00…
[17:20:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Divec: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[17:23:32] <Krinkle>	 James_F: OK
[17:27:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review, and 3 others: On second edit attempt between loads, VisualEditor fails to load, complaining about revID mis-match - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97069#1246134 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved...
[17:29:53] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 3 others: New search interface for link dialogue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76397#1246146 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[17:40:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 7Technical-Debt: Separate ve.init and ve.platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52707#1246176 (10Krinkle)
[17:40:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 7Technical-Debt: Separate ve.init and ve.platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52707#588553 (10Krinkle)
[17:41:26] <Krinkle>	 James_F: I've done a quick update. As it stands it doesn't seem high priority, but it depends on how important the blocked tasks are.
[17:41:31] * James_F nods.
[17:41:44] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Thank you.
[17:42:08] <Krinkle>	 James_F: I'm not sure what you wanted to be rewritten though, so not sure if t's what you wnated.
[17:42:49] <Krinkle>	 I'll add a Goal section to clarify intent
[17:42:55] <James_F>	 Krinkle: I think it's fine. ISTR that Roan dictated the blocked task at me when he was in a rush. Thanks.
[17:48:43] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 7Technical-Debt: Separate ve.init and ve.platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52707#1246196 (10Krinkle)
[17:54:37] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10TemplateData: Citoid and bot disagree about use of language parameter in cite book - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97256#1246214 (10Rdicerb) Adding @Qgil, @Whatamidoing-WMF, @Elitre and @Quiddity to see how this can perhaps be made into a bot developer engagement process. May require different...
[17:56:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:01:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove OOUI content icons [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207507 
[18:03:58] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: 2px gap between the 3 .oo-ui-iconElement and their associated indicator-down arrows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97555#1246269 (10Quiddity) 3NEW
[18:04:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Divec: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:05:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Divec: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:06:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove OOUI content icons [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207507 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:07:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Divec: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:08:05] <Roux_>	 Hi :) Please excuse the noob question, I've been searching for about 15 mins now and figure one of you can help me faster! "Is there a way to install this as a beta feature on a custom mediawiki project and, if so, could you please point me in the right direction?" Thank you!
[18:08:48] <RoanKattouw>	 Roux_: There are installation instructions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor
[18:09:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Installing VE is a bit less straightforward than installing a typical extension, but it can certainly be done; a bunch of people here run VE on their development machines
[18:09:37] <RoanKattouw>	 If you run into any problems, don't hesitate to ask here
[18:11:21] <Roux_>	 Bless you! I honestly thought I was already on the extension page, haven't seen one this big -- I'll let you know if there's any trouble. Thanks :)
[18:11:56] <wikibugs>	 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 5MW-1.25-release, 7Performance, 7Wikimedia-log-errors: User modules constantly invalidate their cache timestamp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94810#1246302 (10Krinkle) It's primarily:  1. Desktop views from logged-in users  This makes sense as OutputPage has to generate u...
[18:14:22] <gwicke>	 Krenair, RoanKattouw: the _preconnect removal will need to be deployed before we can load from RB again
[18:14:44] <Krenair>	 you want me to do it now?
[18:16:53] <gwicke>	 Krenair: as in deploy the cherry-pick?
[18:17:28] <gwicke>	 it's not crazy urgent as we rolled back the config change
[18:17:34] <Krenair>	 is there a backport etc. or do we need to make one?
[18:17:37] <gwicke>	 so swat could work
[18:17:50] <gwicke>	 yes, would need a backport
[18:18:05] <gwicke>	 it's a simple patch fortunately
[18:18:07] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Link editor should guard against using interlanguage links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95850#1246331 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:18:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Link editor should guard against using interlanguage links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95850#1246333 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low
[18:19:13] <gwicke>	 Krenair: if you could handle the patches that'd be great
[18:20:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 031] "Happy to merge now; check whether my comments are OK." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:21:03] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Incorrect pasting of multi lined plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96006#1246337 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:24:08] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10Graphoid, 6Mobile-Apps, 6Services, and 3 others: SCA services should not use a proxy for our domains - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97530#1246355 (10mobrovac) p:5Unbreak!>3Normal @akosiaris reverted the LVS IP block in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207489 until we come up with a...
[18:29:13] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Fix the jump when opening the mobile inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96289#1246370 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:34:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor fails to load, complaining about revID mis-match - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97558#1246405 (10Quiddity) 3NEW
[18:34:37] <quiddity>	 James_F, ^
[18:37:52] <RoanKattouw>	 Duplicate?
[18:39:08] <RoanKattouw>	 Oh
[18:39:11] <RoanKattouw>	 I think I understand what that is
[18:39:42] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor fails to load, complaining about revID mis-match - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97558#1246417 (10Catrope) This is because we're trying to use the new RESTbase endpoint thing in beta and it doesn't seem to work there.
[18:40:48] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Mobile-Web: Extremely high amount of errors for anonymous editors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97494#1246419 (10Anomie) >>! In T97494#1246071, @Jdlrobson wrote: > this.get( { action: 'tokens', type: type, assert: assert } );  What are your values for "type" and "assert" there? In parti...
[18:41:38] <James_F>	 quiddity: Dupe but not good.
[18:41:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Add unregister method to ModelRegistry [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:42:38] <RoanKattouw>	 Argh
[18:42:40] <RoanKattouw>	 Guess what
[18:42:43] <RoanKattouw>	 The correct URL is https://restbase-beta.wmflabs.org/en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/v1/
[18:42:45] <RoanKattouw>	 But that 502s
[18:43:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207507 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:44:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add unregister method to ModelRegistry [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206374 (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:45:48] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: Is the bug "Beta Cluster config for RB sucks"?
[18:45:53] <RoanKattouw>	 grumble grumble
[18:46:28] <RoanKattouw>	 I'm fixing it best I can
[18:46:34] <James_F>	 RoanKattouw: *hugs*
[18:46:36] <RoanKattouw>	 Working around the fact that everything under the sun is broken in labs
[18:46:48] <James_F>	 :-)
[18:48:04] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-Links, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Copying link makes it relative to edited page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95136#1246431 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[18:48:12] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 6Mobile-Web, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 7Technical-Debt: Move VisualEditor code from MobileFrontend to VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96186#1246432 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[18:48:27] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: nowiki around several lines, apparently for only 1 space at the beginning of a line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96093#1246433 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low
[18:51:19] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Cursoring over an MWLinkNode takes you two characters to the right/left, not one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96307#1246445 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:51:27] <wikibugs>	 10WikiEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: action.abort.type in Schema:Edit not populated for Wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95938#1246446 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:51:36] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Link with <nowiki/> as only label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95730#1246447 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:53:59] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 7Technical-Debt: Separate ve.init and ve.platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52707#1246450 (10Jdforrester-WMF) In the public weekly triage on 2015-04-29, we discussed this task. We decided that this task, though important, does not block furt...
[18:54:04] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 7Technical-Debt: Separate ve.init and ve.platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52707#1246451 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:56:13] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor: Safari on iPad converts numbers that resemble phone numbers to href=tel: links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55315#1246464 (10Jdforr...
[18:56:19] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Cannot save any edit in mobile VE for Nexus 7(Android 4.4.2) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68756#1246465 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[18:56:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Frozen link inspector and "Uncaught Error..." when a link is repeatedly inserted after clicking in the same place in a blank paragraph in insert mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91318#1246467 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:00:03] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Release VisualEditor-MediaWiki as "1.0" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84936#1246489 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:00:05] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Cursor not moving past "ग्र" and other multiple code-unit grapheme clusters on left arrow key press - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53846#1246486 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF Have tested quite a lot and this seems fine.
[19:00:07] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Tracking: VisualEditor multilingual input / i18n issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35077#1246490 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:01:21] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7I18n: VisualEditor: Add support for adding dir/lang attributes to paragraphs and similar arbitrary elements (div, p, lists etc.) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43009#1246494 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:01:34] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Provide a language inspector to handle <div lang='xx' dir='yyy'> blocks and similar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62187#1246497 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:01:36] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7I18n: VisualEditor: Add support for adding dir/lang attributes to paragraphs and similar arbitrary elements (div, p, lists etc.) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43009#429948 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:07:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor: Safari on iPad converts numbers that resemble phone numbers to href=tel: links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55315#1246520 (10Jdforr...
[19:07:35] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Tracking: Broken browser plugins cause cruft to be injected into the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54327#1246523 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:07:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1246522 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:08:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 7user-notice: Page edited with VE corrupted on save with wikitext of page from another wiki with same oldid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97155#1246525 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved
[19:09:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Perform 25% sampling on the client side as well [extensions/WikiEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207529 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95919) 
[19:09:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Perform 25% sampling on the client side as well [extensions/WikiEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207529 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95919) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:10:41] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: I think jQuery is trying to be smarter than it should be...I'm constructing a button thusly: this.$button = $( '<button>' ).button().appendTo( this.$div ); and then a short while later it's a jQuery object with length 0 and prevObject set to the button element. I have no idea why...
[19:10:59] <wikibugs>	 10WikiEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: editSessionID is duplicated in Edit:Schema for Wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95919#1246528 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This issue (not sampling for clients) is now fixed in wmf4 and will be SWATed to wmf3 this afternoon.  Is th...
[19:11:13] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor: Pasting of MediaWiki article title H1 should paste as a <p> instead of an <h1> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72519#1246529 (10Jdforrester-WMF) In the public weekly triage on 2015-04-29, we discussed this t...
[19:11:27] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Category added before the end of the article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96496#1246531 (10Jdforrester-WMF) In the public weekly triage on 2015-04-29, we discussed this task. We decided that this task is not the right approach as stated, so we re...
[19:12:20] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 7Design: Re-consider the nature of cut-and-paste related to headings and other block-level formatting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97561#1246543 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW
[19:12:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor: Pasting of MediaWiki article title H1 should paste as a <p> instead of an <h1> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72519#1246552 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:12:36] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 7Design: Re-consider the nature of cut-and-paste related to headings and other block-level formatting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97561#1246553 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:12:52] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Category added before the end of the article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96496#1246556 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:12:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Place page meta-data in expected order - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52882#1246557 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:14:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Perform 25% sampling on the client side as well [extensions/WikiEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207529 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95919) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[19:18:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "(Though they'll be back when these icons are upstreamed.)" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207507 (owner: 10Esanders)
[19:19:01] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10TemplateData: Citoid and bot disagree about use of language parameter in cite book - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97256#1246610 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) There's actually nothing "wrong" here.  Bots and scripts like AWB clean up formatting all the time, and this edit would have been made anyway, t...
[19:25:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove OOUI content icons [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207507 (owner: 10Esanders)
[19:27:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Pasting of MediaWiki article title H1 should paste as a <p> instead of an <h1> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72519#1246660 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:28:02] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-Links, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Copying link makes it relative to edited page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95136#1246662 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:28:23] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Find doi in link to doi.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95981#1246664 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:28:29] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Ensure DOI, PMID, and PMCID are in the resultant citation when they're the requested format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95434#1246665 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:28:39] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: Empty annotations cannot be deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96528#1246666 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:28:59] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Fix the jump when opening the mobile inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96289#1246668 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:30:56] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 6Mobile-Web, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: Rewrite the edit summary screen of VisualEditorOverlay in OOjs UI  - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96188#1246675 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:32:42] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 6Mobile-Web, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: VisualEditorOverlay should be written as an OO.ui.ProcessDialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88559#1246680 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:33:18] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 6Mobile-Web, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Rewrite VisualEditorOverlay header using OOjs UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96187#1246682 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:33:21] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Allow formatting editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67586#1246686 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Normal>3High
[19:34:32] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Tapping at the end of each link, does copy-paste of preceding link text in Nexus 7(Android 4.4.2) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68755#1246693 (10Jdforrester-W...
[19:34:34] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: OK, apparently it decided to start working now.
[19:34:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Tapping at the end of each link, does copy-paste of preceding link text in Nexus 7(Android 4.4.2) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68755#703421 (10Jdforrester-WM...
[19:34:37] <marktraceur>	 So never mind.
[19:34:49] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Chrome for mobile keyboard doesn't fire useful key events for backspace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69262#1246697 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:35:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: [Regression wmf4] Link suggestions are appearing in a broken way inside Link Inspector in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74402#1246698 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved
[19:35:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1246700 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:35:39] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The context menu for Citations are not appearing after tapping on it when the keyboard is closed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74406#1246701 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:35:43] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The context menu for Citations are not appearing after tapping on it when the keyboard is closed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74406#1246702 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:35:58] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: For long drop down menus the options are not at all accessible when the screen is set to landscape in iOS device - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69340#1246704 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:36:11] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: [Regression wmf15] Pressing backspace to delete  the link target inside link inspector closes the inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70195#1246706 (10Jdfo...
[19:36:18] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: [Regression wmf15] Pressing backspace to delete  the link target inside link inspector closes the inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70195#1246707 (10Jdfo...
[19:36:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The tapping on Mobile VE is extremely inconsistent compared to standard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67413#1246715 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:37:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The Citation icon does not get highlighted upon clicking or tapping on it in Mobile VE using desktop Safari and iOS ... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74410#1246726
[19:37:42] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Cannot overwrite a text entered in CE in mobile VE using desktop Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74409#1246728 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:37:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Cursor appears over the toolbar in iPad Mini and Nexus 7 for Mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67325#1246739 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:38:11] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: When the context menu appears in mobile, the button alignment for "Next" and "Page Settings" option at the top right gets a bit lower - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74570#1246742 (10Jdforrester...
[19:38:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: For the first time in each edit session in Nexus 7 (Android 4.4.2), Link Inspector gets auto-zoomed in, which looks like partial rendering of the UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68759#1246743...
[19:38:22] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The link text is not appearing in the link target field inside the link inspector for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70585#1246744 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:38:33] <Krinkle>	 marktraceur: What did?
[19:38:34] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Cannot type the reference name inside Re-use existing reference dialog unless select a reference from that dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70824#1246746 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-test...
[19:38:45] <James_F>	 Krinkle: jQuery.
[19:39:00] <Krinkle>	 oh, see the previous msg now
[19:39:04] <James_F>	 :-(
[19:39:06] <James_F>	 Err.
[19:39:07] <James_F>	 :-)
[19:39:07] <Krinkle>	 some change a bunch of bugs in between :P
[19:39:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Text cannot be pasted into link inspector search field from mobile browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70018#1246749 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:39:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Tapping on Return while cursor is at the end of a text, deletes that text in Nexus 7 (Android 4.4.2) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68758#1246750 (10Jdforreste...
[19:39:34] <James_F>	 :-)
[19:39:40] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Tapping at the end of each link duplicates the preceding link text in Nexus 7 (Android 4.4.2) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68754#1246751 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:39:47] <marktraceur>	 Thanks James_F
[19:40:00] <marktraceur>	 Yeah, now it's just my own bugs remaining I think... :P
[19:40:26] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: In android, while trying to apply a link on a selected text, strips off the first letter of the text in the link inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70244#1246753 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Need...
[19:40:43] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Switching tabs in mobile safari often causes page to refresh causing data loss of sess... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70017#1246754
[19:40:53] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: Selecting templates on iOS < 8 causes the on-screen keyboard to close, so they cannot be deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110#1246755 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:41:04] <James_F>	 marktraceur: "Just".
[19:41:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend-Feature-requests, 6WMF-Design-Research, and 2 others: Provide VisualEditor regardless of device size - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85630#1246772 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:41:24] <marktraceur>	 James_F: Well that's the problem I suppose
[19:41:26] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GuidedTour, 7Design, and 4 others: Create a guided tour for VisualEditor using GuidedTour guiders - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89074#1246773 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:41:48] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 6WMF-Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Provide design guidance for minimal VisualEditor header on phones - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93325#1246779 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:5KHammerstein>3Nirzar
[19:42:04] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile:CE is getting zoomed in on rotating the screen orientation in iPad Mini - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70883#1246782 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Needs re-testing.
[19:42:20] <James_F>	 :-)
[19:46:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Incorrect pasting of multi lined plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96006#1246798 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low
[19:46:28] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: Wait, appendTo() isn't chainable? Did I know this and forget?
[19:47:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Parsoid considers template-affected content with a space between it and the template to be space-<pre>'ed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95988#1246809 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[19:48:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: On non-current revisions inside VE, the "read" tab takes you to the read-for-the-old-id rather than read-for-the-current-id state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95985#1246816 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:51:50] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid: Some charsets characters not converted into UTF-8 correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95833#1246828 (10mobrovac)
[19:52:26] <Krinkle>	 marktraceur: Of course it's chainable
[19:52:45] <Krinkle>	 But if the target is not 1, it may result in clones
[19:52:49] <Krinkle>	 appendTo is an anti-pattern
[19:52:54] <Krinkle>	 use $target.append( .. ) instead
[19:52:59] <Krinkle>	 Unless you're sure
[19:53:08] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid: Some charsets characters not converted into UTF-8 correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95833#1246831 (10mobrovac) 5Open>3Resolved The fix has been deployed, so resolving. Please check (in prod or beta, but also citoid.wmflabs.org) and reopen the issue if it persists (or other instances of...
[19:53:10] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: On non-current revisions inside VE, the "read" tab takes you to the read-for-the-old-id rather than read-for-the-current-id state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95985#1246834 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal
[19:53:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: On non-current revisions inside VE, the "read" tab takes you to the read-for-the-old-id rather than read-for-the-current-id state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95985#1205631 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Not sure what the consist...
[19:53:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: On non-current revisions inside VE, the "read" tab takes you to the read-for-the-old-id rather than read-for-the-current-id state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95985#1246838 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:54:48] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Internal link split into several internal links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96004#1246840 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF These //should// all now be fixed, thanks to a number of fixes in Parsoid and VisualEditor. Co...
[19:55:25] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: OK then...
[19:55:43] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: I mean, until today I was 100% sure how it worked
[19:55:46] <marktraceur>	 But apparently I was wrong
[19:57:58] <Krinkle>	 marktraceur: So what's going on exactly
[19:58:26] <Krinkle>	 if you do $('p').append('x') that will append html string x to each paragraph 
[19:58:48] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: I'm doing this.$button = $( 'button' ).appendTo( this.$div );
[19:58:55] <Krinkle>	 $('<span>x</span>').append('p') will detach all paragraphs and add them to your span
[19:59:05] <marktraceur>	 And that borks this.$button to be an empty jQuery object for some reason.
[19:59:19] <Krinkle>	 $('<span>x</span>').appendTo('p') will (like the first one) append x to each <p>, but leave you with a collection that holds a reference to all clones, so that you can do smething with them.
[19:59:44] <Krinkle>	 and if the target is empty, you're level with 0 items.
[20:00:10] <marktraceur>	 I know, but for some reason, that's not how this is working...unless somehow the div is empty or a collection of several divs
[20:00:29] <marktraceur>	 Nope. It's not...well, I guess that uses an appendTo as well. Got some debugging to run through.
[20:01:11] <marktraceur>	 Aha. Potential weirdness.
[20:02:12] <marktraceur>	 Found the bastard
[20:02:23] <marktraceur>	 There was some undefined div that got shoved into an appendTo chain
[20:02:51] <Krinkle>	 that'll do it
[20:03:34] <Krinkle>	 This is why appendTo is an anti-pattern. Unless it's a separate statement with the intent to get a reference to the clones (which is a good reason and the only way to do it), in general you'll want to use append() instead and keep your chain sane.
[20:06:21] <marktraceur>	 It makes sense to me because you can create the parents first and have one chained statement per element
[20:06:34] <marktraceur>	 But to each their own, shrug
[20:14:50] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Parsoid: 503 "Bad Status" error when loading Edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52480#1246896 (10jhobs) I notice this bug is closed, but I just received this error on Office Wiki. Please see attached screenshot for reference.  http://gyazo.com/babb64d76205e0bea78748d52dd09e95  {F158695}
[20:16:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Parsoid: 503 "Bad Status" error when loading Edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52480#1246904 (10jhobs) Note that after a few minutes (and multiple page refreshes) it seems to have resolved itself, but at the very least this is not a very user-friendly error report.
[20:30:13] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-29_(1.26wmf4): Some charsets characters not converted into UTF-8 correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95833#1246951 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[20:30:22] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-29_(1.26wmf4): Some charsets characters not converted into UTF-8 correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95833#1201461 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[20:38:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: Cannot save any edit in mobile VE for Nexus 7(Android 4.4.2) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68756#1246978 (10Ryasmeen) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Ryasmeen Check...
[20:38:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1246981 (10Ryasmeen)
[20:44:13] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: For the first time in each edit session in Nexus 7 (Android 4.4.2), Link Inspector gets auto-zoomed in, which looks like partial rendering of the UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68759#1247007...
[20:44:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1247010 (10Ryasmeen)
[20:53:35] <wikibugs>	 10WikiEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: editSessionID is duplicated in Edit:Schema for Wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95919#1247044 (10Halfak) @Jdforrester-WMF  what are you referring to re. sampling?   > Is there anything else to do here?  I suppose that this...
[20:58:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: On non-current revisions inside VE, the "read" tab takes you to the read-for-the-old-id rather than read-for-the-current-id state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95985#1247066 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) I think that in all cas...
[20:59:15] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1247071 (10Ryasmeen)
[20:59:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The link text is not appearing in the link target field inside the link inspector for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70585#1247068 (10Ryasmeen) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Ryasmeen This i...
[20:59:48] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: On non-current revisions inside VE, the "read" tab takes you to the read-for-the-old-id rather than read-for-the-current-id state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95985#1247075 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF)
[20:59:49] <mooeypoo>	 edsanders, do you know how I can, if at all, change an icon color ? I tried setting fill: #xxx value but that doesn't seem to work
[21:00:27] <edsanders>	 in OOUI?
[21:01:12] <mooeypoo>	 edsanders, well, I'm ooui'fying the icons in Flow
[21:01:26] <mooeypoo>	 so I'm using ooui icons, but some should change color when you hover
[21:01:52] <edsanders>	 the icons colours are auto built - you want to speak to MatmaRex or TrevorParscal
[21:01:53] <mooeypoo>	 can't manage to do that. Flow's using "wikiglyph" which changes color with color: property
[21:02:17] <mooeypoo>	 gotcha. I read online that you can switch svg colors with fill: but i don't think that works for background-image
[21:02:21] <mooeypoo>	 thanks
[21:02:48] <RoanKattouw>	 mooeypoo: OOUI doesn't allow arbitrary coloring like a font does
[21:02:55] <RoanKattouw>	 Instead, there's something called variants
[21:03:06] <mooeypoo>	 RoanKattouw, but isn't it svgs ?
[21:03:23] <RoanKattouw>	 Every icon has an inverted variant (white on black instead of black on white) and some icons have destructive (red) or constructive (green) or progressive (blue) variants
[21:03:34] <RoanKattouw>	 mooeypoo: Yes, and the variants are generated by trivial modification of the SVG
[21:03:34] <mooeypoo>	 I see
[21:03:37] <RoanKattouw>	 autogenerated
[21:03:49] <mooeypoo>	 okay, we'll need those variants, then
[21:03:59] <mooeypoo>	 I'm looking into that
[21:04:03] <edsanders>	 mooeypoo, see icons.json in OOUI
[21:04:39] <RoanKattouw>	 So you can declare that you want a destructive icon to exist, and then you can use mw-ui-icon-foobar-destructive or mw-ui-icon-foobar-variant-destructive or whatever it is
[21:05:45] <mooeypoo>	 (BRB, oit is here)
[21:06:01] <RoanKattouw>	 mooeypoo: But if what you need is icons to be gray instead of full black or whatever, you can use opacity
[21:11:24] <mooeypoo>	 RoanKattouw, yeah I used opacity, but I need to figure out how to change the icon class when it's hovered-- hopefully not in javascript
[21:11:33] <RoanKattouw>	 Ooh
[21:11:38] <RoanKattouw>	 Ugh
[21:11:41] <mooeypoo>	 yes.
[21:11:46] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah you need JS for that :S
[21:11:54] <mooeypoo>	 well, boo.
[21:12:01] <mooeypoo>	 Also, handlebars.
[21:12:46] <RoanKattouw>	 Trevor's in a meeting now (which I'm also in) but we'll have to ask him later how this works for buttons in OOUI's MW theme
[21:12:54] <RoanKattouw>	 Because I think those (in some cases) change color on hover
[21:13:11] <mooeypoo>	 I .. could.. cheat...
[21:13:42] <RoanKattouw>	 Well in OOUI this is all hooked into FlaggedElement
[21:13:46] <mooeypoo>	 mw-ui-icon-iconName:hover { background-image: url( 'iconName-destructive' )
[21:13:51] <mooeypoo>	 or something
[21:14:03] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah :( but that's ugly
[21:14:07] <James_F>	 mooeypoo: Eww.
[21:14:11] <mooeypoo>	 yes, well, the ideal would be to change the entire thing to ooui *widgets*
[21:14:13] <James_F>	 (Also, this should be in -collaboration.)
[21:14:14] <RoanKattouw>	 Because then Flow needs to know about where OOUI stores its icons
[21:14:14] <mooeypoo>	 that do this for us
[21:20:38] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: Toolbars should support position:bottom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97582#1247114 (10Esanders) 3NEW
[21:28:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Physikerwelt: "I already said everything I have to say." [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/206804 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88946) (owner: 10Paladox)
[21:29:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Link tool remains selected if closed without inserting anything - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97583#1247139 (10Esanders) 3NEW
[21:29:20] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow, 10UI-Standardization: Migrate Flow components to OO UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97442#1247147 (10Ricordisamoa)
[21:34:28] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI: Add icons with variants to icon demo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97584#1247154 (10matmarex) 3NEW a:3matmarex
[21:35:04] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI: Add icons with variants to icon demo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97584#1247163 (10Jdforrester-WMF) +1
[21:35:27] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI: Link OOUI JS and PHP demos, somehow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97585#1247166 (10matmarex) 3NEW a:3matmarex
[21:48:41] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Link tool remains selected if closed without inserting anything - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97583#1247245 (10Esanders) This only happens if you click the tool, not if you press ctrl+k
[21:59:56] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10TemplateData: Citoid and bot disagree about use of language parameter in cite book - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97256#1247275 (10Quiddity) As Mvolz says, it is difficult to resolve this without making it a programmatic exception (which might complicate things a lot). I.e.  In Luis' [[https:...
[22:00:51] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10TemplateData: Citoid and bot disagree about use of language parameter in cite book - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97256#1247277 (10Rdicerb) Possible to notify the community so they're aware, at least?
[22:45:05] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI: In MediaWiki theme, button height should be controlled only by 'padding' and label 'line-height' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94750#1247446 (10matmarex)
[22:45:08] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI: ButtonElements with no label, icon and indicator should still have consistent height - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93290#1247445 (10matmarex)
[22:45:26] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI: In MediaWiki theme, button height should be controlled only by 'padding' and label 'line-height' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94750#1171805 (10matmarex)
[22:45:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: 2px gap between the 3 .oo-ui-iconElement and their associated indicator-down arrows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97555#1247449 (10matmarex)
[22:45:49] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: 2px gap between the 3 .oo-ui-iconElement and their associated indicator-down arrows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97555#1246269 (10matmarex) Fairly sure this would get fixed if we did T94750.
[22:46:27] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: 2px gap between the 3 .oo-ui-iconElement and their associated indicator-down arrows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97555#1247468 (10matmarex) Oh hmm, or maybe not, since this is about toolbars and toolbars are special.
[22:46:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: 2px gap between the 3 .oo-ui-iconElement and their associated indicator-down arrows in toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97555#1247479 (10matmarex)
[22:49:50] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Use consistent error state for text input widgets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97516#1247552 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3Low a:3matmarex
[22:53:03] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Use consistent error state for text input widgets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97516#1247586 (10Jdforrester-WMF) I like the one in the template dialog best. But eh.
[22:53:51] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI, 10UI-Standardization: Validation styles for OOjs-UI inputs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92262#1247595 (10matmarex) > Awaiting input, Active or Focus state is used with input is awaiting the user  Exists already:  {F158757,size=full}  > Error, Destructive Intention should be used if user cann...
[22:53:54] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Remove the 2px un-clickable gap between the 3 .oo-ui-iconElement and their associated indicator-down arrows in the toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97555#1247591 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low
[22:56:05] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 5Patch-For-Review: [Regression pre-wmf3] Inspectors inside Media Settings>caption and Basic reference dialog are appearing too big - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96628#1247604 (10matmarex) This will be fixed by the set of patches available for review at T91152.
[22:57:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Use consistent error state for text input widgets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97516#1247627 (10matmarex) That is what we're implementing for the MediaWiki theme in T97403 (except for the blue/red border on focus, which is clearly a bug, present since the last design change of input widge...
[23:01:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Automatically use "smart quotes" and convert other typing to more advance characters (as an option) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40724#1247634 (10matmarex) a:5matmarex>3None I actually can't promise that I'll implement this soon, so I'm...
[23:02:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update jQuery from v1.11.2 to v1.11.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207665 
[23:03:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] Update jQuery from v1.11.2 to v1.11.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207665 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[23:04:28] <James_F>	 Krenair: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207468/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207471/ too?
[23:04:50] <Krenair>	 Was that for Krinkle?
[23:05:09] <Krinkle>	 what was that for?
[23:05:20] <Krinkle>	 what*
[23:05:44] <James_F>	 Bah.
[23:05:47] <James_F>	 Yes.
[23:05:48] <James_F>	 Sorry.
[23:05:50] * James_F sighs.
[23:05:53] <James_F>	 Krenair: I suck.
[23:06:06] <James_F>	 Krinkle: Mind +2ing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207468/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207471/ too?
[23:06:07] * Krenair renames to NotKrinkle :p
[23:06:12] <James_F>	 Krenair: :-)
[23:06:23] <Krinkle>	 Oh..
[23:06:25] <James_F>	 Krenair: The "no*" prefix is unique, yes. :-)
[23:06:37] <gwicke>	 Krenair: did you prepare patches for the _preconnect issue?
[23:07:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] build: Bump various devDependencies [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207471 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[23:07:23] <James_F>	 Ta.
[23:07:38] <Krenair>	 gwicke, oh, we need to do that still
[23:07:41] <Krenair>	 RoanKattouw, ^ fyi
[23:07:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 032] build: Bump various devDependencies [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207468 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[23:08:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) 
[23:08:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update jQuery from v1.11.2 to v1.11.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207665 (owner: 10Jforrester)
[23:08:31] <gwicke>	 Krenair: cool, I'll prepare a config patch then
[23:08:49] <Krenair>	 It's already part of wmf24
[23:08:59] <Krenair>	 wmf4, even
[23:09:03] <Krenair>	 so we just need to get it backported to wmf3
[23:09:26] <gwicke>	 wmf3 is the main one that we care about, because of the volume
[23:10:22] <RoanKattouw>	 I'm about to do the SWAT
[23:10:47] <Krenair>	 can we have https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207667/ ?
[23:14:40] <gwicke>	 Krenair: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207671/
[23:14:44] <gwicke>	  /cc RoanKattouw 
[23:15:48] <Krenair>	 gwicke, you need to use "Bug: " for gerritbot to link on the task, I think
[23:16:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bump various devDependencies [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207471 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[23:17:34] <RoanKattouw>	 Yes you do
[23:17:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bump various devDependencies [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207468 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90816) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[23:17:39] <RoanKattouw>	 Krenair: Add it to the wiki page
[23:17:53] <Krenair>	 do you want me to merge and upload the submodule update?
[23:18:05] <gwicke>	 RoanKattouw, Krenair: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deployments&type=revision&diff=156599&oldid=156595
[23:18:24] <James_F>	 Krenair: Please do.
[23:18:25] <RoanKattouw>	 Krenair: Yes please
[23:18:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:20:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10GWicke: [C: 032] Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:20:33] <gwicke>	 lets see if Jenkins is twice as fast now
[23:20:38] <James_F>	 :-)
[23:21:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Pre-fetch RESTBase DNS and negotiate TLS" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.26wmf3) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:21:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-29_(1.26wmf4), 5WMF-deploy-2015-05-06_(1.26wmf5): Remove _preconnect logic for VisualEditor->RESTBase connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500#1247698 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolve...
[23:22:08] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-04-29_(1.26wmf4), 5WMF-deploy-2015-05-06_(1.26wmf5): Remove _preconnect logic for VisualEditor->RESTBase connections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97500#1243994 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[23:22:28] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Category added before the end of the article - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96496#1247704 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[23:22:56] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: The link text is not appearing in the link target field inside the link inspector for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70585#730172 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[23:23:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: VisualEditor Mobile: For the first time in each edit session in Nexus 7 (Android 4.4.2), Link Inspector gets auto-zoomed in, which looks like partial rendering of the UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68759#703875 (...
[23:23:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Link with <nowiki/> as only label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95730#1247714 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[23:25:11] <Krenair>	 James_F, RoanKattouw, gwicke: Updated gwicke's deployment listing with the submodule update instead
[23:25:27] <gwicke>	 Krenair: thanks!
[23:48:18] <wikibugs>	 10OOjs-UI, 7Technical-Debt: Variant definitions should be shared by a theme, not written at the top of each icon pack JSON file - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97608#1247810 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW