[00:30:42] (03PS5) 10Paladox: WIP: DO NOT SUBMIT (Extension registration) [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87941) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [01:17:50] (03PS6) 10Paladox: WIP: DO NOT SUBMIT (Extension registration) [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87941) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [01:17:53] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: DO NOT SUBMIT (Extension registration) [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87941) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [01:20:14] (03PS7) 10Paladox: WIP: DO NOT SUBMIT (Extension registration) [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87941) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [01:21:19] (03PS8) 10Paladox: WIP: DO NOT SUBMIT Add extension.json, empty PHP entry point, remove i18n shim [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87941) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [02:58:31] 10TemplateData, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Please make me a list of commonly used templates in Wikipedia articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96323#1274726 (10jeremyb-phone) [03:24:46] 10TemplateData, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Please make me a list of commonly used templates in Wikipedia articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96323#1274735 (10Bawolff) So the final combined version of the results of my query is at https://tools.wmflabs.org/bawolff/templatedata.htm .... [03:54:17] 10TemplateData, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Please make me a list of commonly used templates in Wikipedia articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96323#1274741 (10MZMcBride) The script I used is at P631. It's pretty bad code, but it mostly gets the job done. ``` tools.mzmcbride@tools-b... [04:27:36] 10TemplateData, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Please make me a list of commonly used templates in Wikipedia articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96323#1274743 (10Bawolff) Hmm, one interesting thing. That list has: ​ 62460 Cr But select count(*) from templatelinks where tl_title = 'Cr... [04:45:18] 10TemplateData, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Please make me a list of commonly used templates in Wikipedia articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96323#1274749 (10Bawolff) >>! In T96323#1274743, @Bawolff wrote: > Hmm, one interesting thing. That list has: > ​ 62460 Cr > > But select c... [04:58:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10VisualEditor-Tables: VisualEditor: Editing tables with "pop-up" elements breaks table formatting in some cases (like with cell templates) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98696#1274750 (10dudeprgm) 3NEW [08:35:33] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI: Tooltips for OOJS UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96091#1274808 (10Nirzar) [10:01:41] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407650/ gives |date=6 Apr 1983 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98675#1274826 (10Mvolz) So, with citoid, the template is automatically selected. With imdb, the citoid type is indeed video, but this gets cast to cite web depending on how the wiki... [10:02:03] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Citing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407650/ gives |date=6 Apr 1983 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98675#1274827 (10Mvolz) [10:08:34] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Citing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407650/ gives |date=6 Apr 1983 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98675#1274830 (10Mvolz) Probably the best solution is to 1) add cite av to the config message, and then 2) allow the user to change template if they really meant c... [10:14:29] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Don't add accessdate for cite books or cite journals on enwp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98674#1274832 (10Mvolz) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_journal/doc&diff=prev&oldid=661677873 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Templa... [10:15:40] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Don't add accessdate for cite books or cite journals on enwp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98674#1274833 (10Mvolz) Done, but it says, "not required" not "please don't put this in." [10:16:03] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Don't add accessdate for cite books or cite journals on enwp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98674#1274834 (10Mvolz) 5Open>3Resolved [11:05:29] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Citing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407650/ gives |date=6 Apr 1983 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98675#1274861 (10Josve05a) How about not adding date fields for websites earlier than say 1990 or something? When was the first website created? [11:07:54] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Don't add accessdate for cite books or cite journals on enwp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98674#1274862 (10Josve05a) >>! In T98674#1274833, @Mvolz wrote: > Done, but it says, "not required" not "please don't put this in." However bots, and AWB, remove these... [11:08:49] 10Citoid, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Citing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407650/ gives |date=6 Apr 1983 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98675#1274863 (10Mvolz) That's something that template data can't handle. It can pretty much just match fields to fields and that's it. The only possible solution... [11:08:54] (03PS9) 10Paladox: Add extension.json, empty PHP entry point, remove i18n shim [extensions/Math] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/187654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87941) (owner: 10Physikerwelt) [11:11:51] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Allow editing of a citoid-automatic ref before inserting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98702#1274864 (10Josve05a) 3NEW [11:16:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Web cite" icon badly displayed in 90% zoom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98677#1274873 (10Josve05a) @matmarex This does not happen if I just use citoid in the article, but if in a "secondary" window/pop-up, such as the "edit basic ref"-window, displayed above. [11:17:36] Does citoid have it's own channel? [12:51:02] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Allow right click copy on focusable nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209970 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98589) [12:53:09] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Allow right click copy on focusable nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209970 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98589) [12:54:40] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Use getWindow in ve.selectElement [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209971 [14:13:22] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Allow right click copy on focusable nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209970 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98589) [14:29:53] 10TemplateData, 6Community-Liaison, 10WMF-Product-Strategy: Please make me a list of commonly used templates in Wikipedia articles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96323#1274944 (10MZMcBride) >>! In T96323#1274749, @Bawolff wrote: >>>! In T96323#1274743, @Bawolff wrote: >> Hmm, one interesting thing. Tha... [14:31:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Editnotices for newpage creations are shown with a broken link if MediaWiki:Helppage in the user's language is customised to a page title instead of a full URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97875#1274945 (10Krenair) a:3Krenair [14:34:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Editnotices for newpage creations are shown with a broken link if MediaWiki:Helppage in the user's language is customised to a page title instead of a full URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97875#1274953 (10Krenair) a:5Krenair>3Krinkle Just updated my copy o... [14:34:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Editnotices for newpage creations are shown with a broken link if MediaWiki:Helppage in the user's language is customised to a page title instead of a full URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97875#1274956 (10Krenair) 5Open>3Resolved [17:57:11] 10VisualEditor: Citation tool badge doesn't have the correct height for the template in it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98708#1275089 (10Florian) 3NEW [21:43:01] (03PS4) 10Esanders: Allow right click copy on focusable nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209970 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98589) [22:02:06] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI: Tooltips for OOJS UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96091#1275325 (10Esanders) What's wrong with native tooltips? [22:02:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-05-13_(1.26wmf6): Editing a ref causes the reference-window to not display fully - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98430#1275327 (10matmarex) [22:02:55] 10VisualEditor: Citation tool badge doesn't have the correct height for the template in it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98708#1275326 (10matmarex) [22:09:37] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Allow editing of a citoid-automatic ref before inserting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98702#1275329 (10matmarex) There actually was such an option in the recent mockups (T96946), not sure if it was removed intentionally or if it fell through the cracks. [22:15:33] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI: Tooltips for OOJS UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96091#1275333 (10Nirzar) The time. they show up after a delay. instant tooltip improves usability, they do a good job of answering these small questions that pop up in your head when you are using an interface. it removes ambi... [22:19:08] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Behavior of "Automatic" citation when bad input is provided is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98715#1275334 (10matmarex) 3NEW [22:19:37] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Allow editing of a citoid-automatic ref before inserting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98702#1275343 (10Nirzar) in current flow after the insert button is pressed, it inserts the citation into the article and the focus is on citation so the context menu pops up. context menu ha... [22:47:58] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI: Tooltips for OOJS UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96091#1275366 (10Ricordisamoa) Let's just use them parsimoniously, like GitHub does. If they're absolutely needed for users to understand icons, why not to use labels directly? [22:57:25] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI: Tooltips for OOJS UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96091#1275377 (10Nirzar) @ricordisamoa I totally agree, having them doesn't necessarily mean using them. but they are needed in some of the places so the answer to the question "do we need this" is still Yes :)