[00:02:51] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: betalabs: Existing pages for File internal links are displayed red in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97830#1300532 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) This problem can be reproduced at mediawiki.org today. [00:10:02] 10VisualEditor, 7Design: can't delete template from edit dialog in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99862#1300571 (10Ijon) 3NEW [03:52:23] 10Cite, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering, and 3 others: Use CSS to style Parsoid's Cite extension output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86782#1300693 (10santhosh) > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/207474/ for Cite implements the new ResourceLoader module ext.cite.style, which ser... [04:00:25] 10Cite, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering, and 3 others: Use CSS to style Parsoid's Cite extension output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86782#976382 (10santhosh) [09:46:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 7Design: Hard to delete template from edit dialog in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99862#1300959 (10Aklapper) [10:07:18] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department, 6Mobile-Web: Extremely high amount of errors for anonymous editors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97494#1301002 (10phuedx) [11:00:03] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser: Call to template can duplicate ref tag contents when using

- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99787#1301083 (10Aklapper) p:5Triage>3Low [11:30:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Make table cell attributes like data-sort-value editable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99890#1301146 (10Raymond) 3NEW [13:57:31] 10Cite, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering, and 3 others: Use CSS to style Parsoid's Cite extension output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86782#1301336 (10marcoil) >>! In T86782#1300693, @santhosh wrote: > Note that there are usecases where we need to display the references in two lan... [14:05:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10OOjs-UI, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 3 others: OOjs UI toolbars in MediaWiki theme now always have a box-shadow, which breaks the stupid nested toolbar we do in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98776#1301350 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:05:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10OOjs-UI, 7Easy, and 4 others: Disabled tool with label (and no icon) in BarToolGroup not displayed as disabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98651#1301351 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:05:48] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: OOJS UI: Update button spec - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98806#1301355 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:06:06] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 7Design, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: OOJS UI: Update button spec - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98806#1278068 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:06:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10OOjs-UI, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 2 others: OOjs UI toolbars in MediaWiki theme now always have a box-shadow, which breaks the stupid nested toolbar we do in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98776#1277306 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:06:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10OOjs-UI, 7Easy, and 3 others: Disabled tool with label (and no icon) in BarToolGroup not displayed as disabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98651#1273778 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:18:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: [Regression wmf6] When an invalid text is entered as external link, it is appearing on the CE with square brackets [ ] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98817#1301380 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:18:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: [Regression wmf6] In Firefox, When the link inspector autoswitches to the external link tab, the cursor is inserted before "http://" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98895#1301381 (10Jdforr... [14:18:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Styled nowiki added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98893#1301388 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [14:19:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Styled nowiki added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98893#1280158 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Parsoid-caused issue? [14:20:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: '' converted to '''' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98887#1301395 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Possibly a Parsoid issue? [14:26:42] 10VisualEditor: Link Types: easy addition of structured metadata added to hyperlinking dialog in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94295#1301418 (10Jrf) I made a video of the one remaining issue with making this work well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBjtqNap0g&feature=youtu.be The larger issue o... [14:42:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Styled nowiki added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98893#1301462 (10ssastry) This is newly inserted content. Parsoid received empty content, i.e . and the only way to serialize that would be to insert a there. So,... [14:43:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Styled nowiki added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98893#1301469 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T98893#1301462, @ssastry wrote: > This is newly inserted content. Parsoid received empty content, i.e . and the only way to serializ... [14:48:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers: '' converted to '''' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98887#1301486 (10ssastry) Looking at that diff, it looks like there were a number of other cases of dirtying there .. quotes were normalized, etc. This quote issue is a... [14:58:35] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-05-20_(1.26wmf7): Some citing messages are untranslatable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99712#1301519 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [14:58:48] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-05-20_(1.26wmf7): Some citing messages are untranslatable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99712#1297401 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3matmarex [15:00:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: Text in VE's re-use citation menu should wrap - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99267#1301539 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [15:01:01] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, and 5 others: Run test of having VisualEditor on for some newly-created accounts on the English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90666#1301541 (10Krenair) This is now live. [15:01:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5Patch-For-Review: Right-clicking on focusable nodes should not give useless "copy image" options - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98650#1301542 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [15:02:32] James_F: I4m having trouble connecting to the hangout. Is it working for you? [15:02:43] guillom: Not great, but yes. [15:02:48] sgrmbl [15:02:58] doesn't work from my laptop ot the room A/V [15:03:22] guillom: Hmm. I've invited you in case that helps? [15:04:33] guillom: Any luck? [15:04:45] James_F: Nope, it just continues to say "please wait" and then it gives up [15:04:53] James_F: Don't wait for me [15:05:02] OK. [15:08:44] RoanKattouw: you around? [15:11:15] gwicke: He's in Paris on leave, sorry. [15:12:31] kk, was hoping to sync up with him re that Saturday session on Parsoid HTML [15:12:50] and/or edsanders|away [15:13:55] * tommorris accidentally clicked on this channel when meaning to click on another one and was wondering why wikimedians had invaded an unrealted project. ;-) [15:14:48] tommorris: Ha. [15:14:57] gwicke: Ed's also in Paris, sorry. :-( [15:32:57] James_F: do you know when they'll arrive in Lyon? [15:34:41] gwicke: Friday early afternoon. [15:35:40] kk, will send a mail & share slides then, should give them enough time to prepare [15:36:03] thx! [15:36:35] :-) [15:40:59] I have a VE question. When editing the contents of a template property, how do I use inline formatting like bold? [15:44:38] tommorris: The text boxes for template parameters are raw wikitext right now. [15:44:45] tommorris: So '''foo'''. :-( [15:44:57] tommorris: The next big thing in that area is to turn those into rich text surfaces. [15:44:59] ah okay. that's fine. [15:45:10] still making my first VE edit on en.wv [15:46:03] * James_F nods. [15:53:21] one more thing - interwiki links. possible? [15:58:15] yes, as if you're doing an internal link [15:58:26] you just have to know the prefix :/ [16:08:26] tommorris: And if you paste a URL that matches an interwiki, it'll just magically convert for you. [16:09:27] James_F: clever [16:14:36] hello [16:15:11] the addition of on en.wp hasn't already been fixed, I guess? [16:17:21] (I think I understand why it was added to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=JJCC&curid=42299479&diff=663421567&oldid=663420819 , but still.) [16:21:10] Elitre: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95708 and related tasks were considered fixed. [16:33:30] Elitre: It's entirely possible the user did it deliberately… [16:33:44] Elitre: The bug adding it on copy-and-paste is fixed, yes [16:40:35] * guillom is adding TemplateData using the TemplateData editor for the first time. [16:40:47] guillom: Having fun? [16:40:51] It's so enjoyable. [16:41:22] James_F: Then again y'all lowered my expectations by a lot by having me do it by editing JSON by hand months ago :) [16:41:22] :-) [16:41:35] guillom: That's the plan. Under-promise, over-deliver. ;-) [16:41:39] héhé [16:43:36] 10VisualEditor: Unable to click on links in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99924#1301805 (10Glaisher) 3NEW [16:46:18] I'd be surprised if that weren't a duplicate [16:55:44] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 3Editing Department 2014/15 Q4 blockers, 5WMF-deploy-2015-05-20_(1.26wmf7): Some citing messages are untranslatable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99712#1301817 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [16:57:11] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Remove name, type, description, homepage from composer.json [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211675 (owner: 10Legoktm) [16:58:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove name, type, description, homepage from composer.json [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/211675 (owner: 10Legoktm) [16:59:17] thanks [17:13:01] legoktm: Thank you. :-) [17:13:21] legoktm: Anything you need to me to +2 whilst I'm at it? [17:15:29] * legoktm looks at open changes [17:16:31] James_F: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211342/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/210389/, I was hoping Krinkle|detached would look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/208877/ but I think he removed himself as a reviewer... [17:18:37] legoktm: Florian makes a good point on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/210389/1/maintenance/convertExtensionToRegistration.php but otherwise +2 from me – want to make it? [17:19:51] James_F: oh, I missed that. Let me add a comment [17:22:25] James_F: updated [17:24:13] Ta. [17:27:57] James_F: thanks. Any thoughts on the banana-checker one? [17:28:56] I've been waiting on Krinkle for that. [17:29:05] Oh, wait. [17:29:41] That one, yes. [17:29:45] +2'ed. [17:30:38] er, you didn't press +2? :P [17:30:55] I didn't? [17:31:22] Better. [17:31:37] thanks :) [17:32:21] I'll work on updating the other ones based on that [17:36:54] * James_F nods. [17:51:43] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: Don't ask for saving changes while nothing was changed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99893#1302095 (10Mattflaschen) You're using VE for that example, right (maybe because it's the default)? [17:55:31] 10Cite, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering, and 3 others: Use CSS to style Parsoid's Cite extension output - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86782#1302112 (10ssastry) Thanks Santhosh for flagging that use case. >>! In T86782#1301336, @marcoil wrote: >>>! In T86782#1300693, @santhosh wr... [18:17:14] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: Don't ask for saving changes while nothing was changed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99893#1302157 (10Glaisher) Yep, this seems to be happening only when VE is enabled. Even if I switch to wikitext editor, while VE is enabled by default, this seems to occur. [18:35:41] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Graph editing in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89287#1302197 (10ferdbold) [18:37:45] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Community bonding evaluation for "Enable VisualEditor support in Graph extension" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97502#1302198 (10ferdbold) [18:38:48] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Enable VisualEditor support in Graph extension (GSoC 2015 Proposal) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93585#1302209 (10ferdbold) [18:41:10] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Enable basic Vega display in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99936#1302212 (10ferdbold) 3NEW a:3ferdbold [18:42:13] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Graph editing in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89287#1302221 (10Yurik) Heads up: http://vega.github.io/ - Vega team has posted a number of great editing tools (alpha/beta quality). We don't want to re-do... [18:42:16] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Integrate basic editor dialog displaying raw JSON - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99937#1302222 (10ferdbold) 3NEW a:3ferdbold [18:43:20] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Reload Vega display on change - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99938#1302232 (10ferdbold) 3NEW a:3ferdbold [18:43:55] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Reload Vega display on change - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99938#1302243 (10ferdbold) [18:43:57] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Integrate basic editor dialog displaying raw JSON - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99937#1302244 (10ferdbold) [18:45:29] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Switch between basic graph types - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99939#1302246 (10ferdbold) 3NEW a:3ferdbold [18:45:53] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Integrate basic editor dialog displaying raw JSON - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99937#1302222 (10ferdbold) [18:45:56] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Switch between basic graph types - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99939#1302256 (10ferdbold) [18:47:13] 10Mediawiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Graph editing in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89287#1302258 (10ferdbold) I've seen Lyra so far, didn't know about Polestar and Voyager. I will definitely check this out, thanks! [19:26:23] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Interface: Edit summary box should be a multiline input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99944#1302369 (10awight) 3NEW [19:29:39] Hello everyone! I need help with the visual editor extension.. [19:29:46] Error message: parsoidserver-http-bad-status: 500: error: Failed to parse the JSON response for Config Request path: /localhost/Hauptseite ParserError: Failed to parse the JSON response for Config Request at ApiRequest._handleBody (/usr/lib/parsoid/src/lib/mediawiki.ApiRequest.js:207:11) at ApiRequest._requestCB (/usr/lib/parsoid/src/lib/mediawiki.ApiRequest.js:171:8) at Request.self.callback (/usr/lib/pa [19:29:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302391 (10awight) [19:29:56] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Interface: Edit summary box should be a multiline input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99944#1302369 (10awight) [19:31:20] anyone? [19:32:11] maybe someone can validate my localsettings and my settings.js? [19:32:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302396 (10awight) @Deskana, I'm curious why you say that, > We want users to be fairly brief with their edit summaries [19:34:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302397 (10Deskana) >>! In T54133#1302396, @awight wrote: > @Deskana, I'm curious why you say that, >> We want users to be fairly brief with their edit... [19:38:09] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Interface: Edit summary box should be a multiline input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99944#1302369 (10awight) [19:38:58] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Interface: Edit summary box should be a multiline input - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99944#1302369 (10awight) [19:47:37] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30383021/visualeditor-server-http-bad-status-500 [19:47:41] James_F: Did last Tuesday's RESTBase outage affect VE? [19:47:51] guillom: Yes. [19:48:03] Thanks :) [19:48:05] guillom: It would have made editing impossible for some minutes. :-( [19:48:18] Anyone able to tell me why it is not working? [19:48:30] James_F: I was going to write "30 minutes" based on the incident report. Is that incorrect? [19:48:40] I don't know. [19:48:44] ok :) [19:48:48] Then I'll use that. [19:50:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302437 (10awight) Okay, I understand where that's coming from. On the other hand, sometimes it's really helpful to have a brief summary sentence, the... [19:50:28] nekura: Best to ask in #mediawiki-parsoid, but it looks like your Parsoid config file isn't valid? [19:52:05] James_F: I did it exactly like on this guide... and parsoid was added to the sources.list file and installed using apt-get [19:52:35] nekura: I've not manually installed Parsoid for years, sorry. :-( [19:53:26] Still thank you. I will ask them on their channel :) [19:58:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302457 (10Deskana) >>! In T54133#1302437, @awight wrote: > Okay, I understand where that's coming from. On the other hand, sometimes it's really help... [20:34:27] 10VisualEditor, 7Easy: Change MediaWiki:Visualeditor-feedback-tool to say "Leave feedback about this software" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91804#1302481 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal @Jdforrester-WMF, can we get this done soon, please [[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia... [20:40:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302492 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) The last thing I heard is that making the edit summaries any bigger required redesigning //the database// (yes, //that// d... [20:42:07] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Interface: VisualEditor "Edit" button should be sticky on the browser window while scrolling. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99950#1302494 (10awight) 3NEW [20:44:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302510 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) I've said this in several places, but I repeat it here: I don't care what size or shape the edit summary box is on my com... [20:57:43] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser: Call to template can duplicate ref tag contents when using

- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99787#1302535 (10Jackmcbarn) This is indeed new, caused by I0e136f952302b65f1abeeac5273bd842867e1dac. I don't consider this a big deal though, since something that contains a referen... [21:04:54] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-Parser: Call to template can duplicate ref tag contents when using

- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99787#1302547 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) >>! In T99787#1302535, @Jackmcbarn wrote: > caused by I0e136f952302b65f1abeeac5273bd842867e1dac. That's rECIT944b24542827f827cdfb8646f1c2e87aeb92... [21:42:16] 10Citoid, 10Security-Reviews, 6Security-Team: Security review of Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98096#1302646 (10csteipp) [22:32:01] 10VisualEditor: Harmonize some warning messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99963#1302801 (10Elitre) 3NEW [23:25:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54133#1302870 (10Quiddity) >>! In T54133#1302510, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote: > I care whether it **behaves like** the wikitext edit summary in terms of interac... [23:28:16] 10VisualEditor: Surface VE's incremental edit summary capability - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71393#1302876 (10Quiddity) See also (merge one into other?) {T52961} [23:30:16] 10VisualEditor, 6WMF-Design-Research: Create test plan for VE on mobile evaluation for new users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88756#1019607 (10aripstra) Working on this is contingent on Editing team priorities.