[00:02:40] If you run with ?debug=true , do you get more or different error messages? [00:11:11] nothing appearing in browser [00:11:23] log file doesn't reveal anything obvious either http://psychonautwiki.org/error.log [00:11:31] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison, 7user-notice: Advertise VisualEditor's cool new features to existing editors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101211#1384450 (10Quiddity) [00:11:34] 10VisualEditor, 6Design Research Backlog, 7Epic, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: Improve and streamline VisualEditor's user education features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101481#1384449 (10Quiddity) [00:21:15] oh well, i'll leave it for another day [02:28:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384590 (10jayvdb) p:5Normal>3High If VE is going to be rolled out to new editors, surely this must be a high priority? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia... [02:46:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384593 (10jayvdb) I see closed tasks T52356 and T64766, but no other tasks relating to CAPTCHA, either open or closed. Is this well covered by test scenarios? [02:54:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384607 (10jayvdb) [04:43:27] 10Cite: Cite: Provide a way for users to find articles which have the reference list inserted automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69700#1384642 (10MZMcBride) @Krenair or @Jackmcbarn: Any interest in taking a look at this? [05:43:21] 10WikiEditor, 7I18n: WikiEditor has 54 messages without documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103221#1384756 (10Legoktm) 3NEW [06:12:18] 10VisualEditor: Cannot select over region that includes HTML tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103223#1384771 (10Greenrd) 3NEW [06:55:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384816 (10Elitre) I haven't been successful so far in finding a way to replicate (I tested several times in these months and couldn't replicate in IE,... [07:45:55] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citoid is not able to cite 10.1016/j.entcs.2011.01.004 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98679#1384878 (10Quiddity) [07:45:57] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Elsevier journals don't seem to work in Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97042#1384879 (10Quiddity) [07:48:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384881 (10jayvdb) So the steps as an anon (should be the same?) are: 1. Edit using VE as an anon http://enwp.org/User:Elitre/Sandbox?veaction=edit 2. A... [08:04:58] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Elsevier journals don't seem to work in Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97042#1384902 (10Quiddity) Sample Elsevier DOIs (that don't work) 10.1016/j.entcs.2011.01.004 10.1016/S0140-6736(04)15715-2 10.1016/S1473-3099(10)70143-2 10.1016/S2213-8587(15)00033-9 10.1016/j.celrep.... [08:19:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA has no refresh button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103227#1384911 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [08:21:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384919 (10Quiddity) The CAPTCHA is appearing in the visible area, for me. Only the previously visible licensing info (which needs to have been read bef... [08:57:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384962 (10Elitre) >>! In T72266#1384881, @jayvdb wrote: Hey, thanks a lot for testing! > So the steps as an anon (should be the same?) are: I assume... [09:08:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384974 (10Amire80) Try it on a smaller screen. A lot of people still use 1024×768 or even smaller screens. How about putting it above the edit summary... [09:09:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1384975 (10Amire80) [09:21:09] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1384990 (10Piramidion) 3NEW [09:21:57] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1384997 (10Piramidion) [09:41:39] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385030 (10Piramidion) The same is in Polish Wikipedia. [12:16:18] 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool: Create Labs project for LanguageTool Extension to VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103111#1385128 (10yuvipanda) 5Open>3Resolved Created project with name ve-language tool :) [14:19:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: There should be a link to the template page even if template description is available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72279#1385164 (10Amire80) [14:19:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Transclusion dialogs panes should include a link to the template's definition page (for further documentation), even if there is TemplateData to document it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51772#1385165 (10Amire80) [14:42:21] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385168 (10Mvolz) There was a change to the names in the message keys. The message keys were mixed case, and they are required to be lower cased. Those messages will have to be retranslated. [14:43:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA has no refresh button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103227#1385169 (10Krenair) a:3Krenair [14:46:32] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Show reload link next to FancyCaptchas [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219583 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103227) [15:30:33] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385192 (10Piramidion) Those messages were renamed in translatewiki, there is nothing to translate. I tried to use null edits there but nothing happened. Will see tomorrow if those null edits have any effect... [16:42:10] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385199 (10Mvolz) @siebrand @edsanders, any idea why? [16:46:37] 10Citoid: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385201 (10Mvolz) @esanders @jforrester [16:52:18] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385203 (10Mvolz) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! [17:08:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Testme: VisualEditor: CAPTCHA that appears when saving is hard to find - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72266#1385217 (10Quiddity) >>! In T72266#1384974, @Amire80 wrote: > Try it on a smaller screen. A lot of people still use 1024×768 or even smaller... [17:12:41] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385225 (10Krenair) Despite https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/216970/, 8fc86399237a3bad5ebb8e59a15deefb8aebc4bb did not fix all languages... [17:22:15] Krenair: so https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229 is expected given that not all of the message keys were added to translatewiki yet? [17:22:28] i.e. do I need to do anything else? [17:22:39] It's not expected [17:22:45] all the messages got moved on translatewiki [17:23:01] (at least, the few I checked) [17:23:05] but for some reason the bot did not include them in the update to the repo [17:24:24] so it was a bot issue? [17:24:43] I think so. [17:24:53] anyone else I should CC to get it fixed? not familiar with i18n [17:25:06] unless there's some obscure behaviour in the bot which should have been overridden for this change [17:25:28] Well, you already CC'd Siebrand [17:25:41] it's possible, since it was a case change... but why would that only affect *some* languages? [17:26:40] i.e. like if the bot didn't read case changes as changes in one part of the code, but did in another, i could see how things might get moved but not make it to the gerrit change [17:26:51] but not why that would work in some langs but not others [17:26:54] If this is really UBN, perhaps also CC people like Nikerabbit? [17:28:32] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385232 (10Mvolz) @Nikerabbit, any ideas why only some languages made it to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/216970? [17:28:53] meanwhile can we add them manually or something? [17:29:25] We could run the search and replace ourselves over the affected files, I guess. [17:29:32] Then backport, scap etc. [17:30:25] Honestly I'm not convinced this is Unbreak Now [17:44:08] ok :) [17:44:28] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385235 (10Mvolz) p:5Unbreak!>3High [17:45:04] when I triaged I was in my phone in the car freaking out, haha. Wasn't sure if it broke all languages or not. Although I'd argue that's still a substantial number... [17:51:38] 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool: Weekly Reports for LanguageTool Extension for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101695#1385236 (10Ankita-ks) [18:12:59] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385239 (10Nikerabbit) Hi from midsummer holidays ;) Our scripts only exports languages which have recently had changes to avoid unnecessary work. Message renaming is not detected as a change. "Full... [18:20:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Add support for (the equivalent of?) editintro and preload - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51622#1385241 (10Quiddity) [18:22:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Magically support Extension:InputBox's content for BLP warning notices on enwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56029#585531 (10Quiddity) >>! In T56029#945042, @Cenarium wrote: > > Adding support in VE for preload / editintro is still worthy on its... [18:22:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Magically support Extension:InputBox's content for BLP warning notices on enwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56029#1385249 (10Quiddity) [18:22:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Add support for (the equivalent of?) editintro and preload - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51622#555851 (10Quiddity) [18:22:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: Add support for (the equivalent of?) editintro and preload - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51622#555851 (10Quiddity) I've merged the above, and copied the details into the description above. [18:23:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Magically support Extension:InputBox's content for BLP warning notices on enwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56029#585531 (10Quiddity) [18:24:56] This patch ("Add per-category editnotices") needs some reviewers. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/189178/ [18:25:38] I'm not sure who generally looks at that subset of things. Please add! [18:28:21] 10Citoid: Write IO tests for selectFormatFcn() method - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1067#1385255 (10Mvolz) p:5Normal>3Low [18:30:42] 10Citoid: Add crossref metadata request to lib/Scraper.js - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103238#1385256 (10Mvolz) 3NEW [18:31:13] 10Citoid, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Technical-Debt: Create a cleaner import and export of natively scraped and zotero scraped citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95295#1385265 (10Mvolz) [18:31:16] 10Citoid: Add crossref metadata request to lib/Scraper.js - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103238#1385264 (10Mvolz) [18:32:18] 10Citoid, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Technical-Debt: Create a cleaner import and export of natively scraped and zotero scraped citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95295#1185899 (10Mvolz) [18:32:19] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: Find doi in link to doi.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95981#1385266 (10Mvolz) [18:32:29] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385268 (10Krenair) I figured it would be something like that. Should we open a separate ticket to make that be considered a change? @Raymond, would you be able to run the full export to the Citoid r... [18:33:23] 10Citoid, 7Technical-Debt: Create a cleaner import and export of natively scraped and zotero scraped citations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95295#1385270 (10Mvolz) p:5Normal>3High a:3Mvolz [18:36:05] 10Citoid: Add crossref metadata request to lib/Scraper.js - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103238#1385274 (10Mvolz) p:5Triage>3High [18:40:41] 10Citoid: Improve Zotero Validation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101878#1385278 (10Mvolz) p:5Triage>3High [18:41:10] 10Citoid, 7I18n: Citoid messages in VE suddenly became untranslated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229#1385279 (10Nikerabbit) Yes you can file a task or even a fix if you dare (scripts/export.php around line 150). I can do export for citoid tonight if I don't forget. [18:52:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: VisualEditor: Where VisualEditor is the primary editor, redlinks in read mode should open VE (not wikitext editor) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55441#1385281 (10Tgr) >>! In T55441#1327857, @Krenair wrote:... [19:08:32] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Enable science direct translator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97042#1385291 (10Mvolz) [19:08:53] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Enable science direct translator (if working) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97042#1231551 (10Mvolz) a:3Mvolz [19:17:24] 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Weekly reports for "Enable VisualEditor support in Graph extension" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101119#1385296 (10ferdbold) [19:17:37] 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph-VE: Weekly reports for "Enable VisualEditor support in Graph extension" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101119#1330046 (10ferdbold) [19:46:40] (03PS4) 10Mvolz: Allow structured citoid fields to be flattened [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218946 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97044) [19:46:55] (03PS5) 10Mvolz: Allow structured citoid fields to be flattened [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218946 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97044) [19:48:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: "Options" item in the hamburger menu doesn't add any value - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71451#1385323 (10Quiddity) >>! In T71451#743488, @gerritbot wrote: > Change 153737 abandoned by Jforrester: > Remove "Options" tool fro... [19:49:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: VisualEditor: Banish the TOC and section edit link controls from the main page settings page, and show the display title one instead - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74397#1385325 (10Quiddity) [20:13:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: VisualEditor: Add support for (the equivalent of?) editintro and preload - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51622#1385351 (10TheDJ) nominating this as Q1 blocker, since this is closely tied to the current BLP practices on engli... [20:14:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Design: VisualEditor: Alternative way of editing categories, at the bottom of the page, similar to HotCat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52239#1385364 (10Quiddity) [20:17:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Design: VisualEditor: Alternative way of editing categories, at the bottom of the page, similar to HotCat - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52239#1385378 (10Quiddity) [20:47:31] (03PS2) 10Nikerabbit: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229) (owner: 10L10n-bot) [20:47:46] (03CR) 10Nikerabbit: [C: 032] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229) (owner: 10L10n-bot) [20:48:03] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219595 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103229) (owner: 10L10n-bot)