[00:06:17] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Collaboration-Team-Sprint-D-2015-06-30, 10Flow: Exceptions when adding external link in Flow VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103629#1394837 (10Mattflaschen) 3NEW a:3Mattflaschen [00:07:07] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Collaboration-Team-Sprint-D-2015-06-30, 10Flow: Exceptions when adding external link in Flow VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103629#1394847 (10Mattflaschen) This can also lead to the inspector being uncloseable, but I don't have exact reproduction steps for that. [00:13:14] neilpquinn, oohh wait [00:13:19] this only affected recentchanges? [00:13:25] not revisions? [00:14:29] No, it affected revisions too. [00:14:33] Sadly :( [00:14:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stephen_Dillane&diff=prev&oldid=663874417 ? [00:15:25] maybe enwiki didn't have the broken code at that point [00:17:45] Hmm. That was just me passing along what James said...I'm looking at the tag_summary table now. [00:19:07] I mean the change tag table. [00:24:56] Krenair: Yeah, you're right. I'm querying for 26 May and there seem to be plenty of tags in change_tag. [00:25:59] From May 28 SAL: [00:26:01] 18:20 logmsgbot: krenair Synchronized php-1.26wmf8/extensions/VisualEditor: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214396/ (duration: 00m 13s) [00:26:01] 18:17 logmsgbot: krenair Synchronized php-1.26wmf7/extensions/VisualEditor: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214395/ (duration: 00m 14s) [00:27:05] wmf7 would've gone to enwiki on the 27th [00:27:33] although we also copied the fix to wmf6, so that was probably broken as well [00:28:48] I can't save an edit on mediawiki.org [00:28:52] Using VisualEditor. [00:29:04] I get all the way to tapping "Save page" and get: "parsoidserver-http: HTTP 500" [00:29:06] Deskana: Sorry, we blacklisted you. [00:29:18] You know what you did. [00:29:43] But seriously though, I'll check it out. [00:29:53] I've pinged Arlo over in the Parsoid channel [00:29:59] Not sure if he's still around [00:30:17] from -operations I think they're up to something [00:30:36] Oh I see [00:30:38] Just worked for me...https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ANeil_P._Quinn-WMF%2FSandbox&type=revision&diff=1688779&oldid=1684321 [00:30:39] restbase restart [00:30:39] Rolling restart of RB [00:30:52] Unfortunately this means I've lost my changes, because VE is stuck now. :( [00:30:58] You wouldn't expect that to reproducibly 500 though [00:32:48] I'm getting a 500 every time I try to save. [00:33:22] Deskana: hi [00:33:26] Refreshed the page, it seems to work now. [00:33:27] is this a local wiki? [00:33:41] I successfully saved an edit to my sandbox [00:33:43] arlolra: It was on mediawiki.org [00:33:49] Everything seems to be working now. [00:34:15] hmm [00:34:20] ya [00:35:11] 10VisualEditor: If you encounter an error while trying to save, and dismiss the error, you can't try to save the page again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103631#1394874 (10Deskana) 3NEW [00:36:47] Deskana: likely from restbase restarts [00:36:55] the parsoid cluster seems ok [00:37:42] thanks for reporting [00:42:46] 10VisualEditor: If you encounter an error while trying to save, and dismiss the error, you can't try to save the page again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103631#1394905 (10Deskana) [00:44:09] 10VisualEditor: If you encounter an error while trying to convert to source editing, the conversion dialogue gets stuck working and is not obviously closable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103632#1394914 (10Deskana) 3NEW [00:44:11] neilpquinn: Two bugs for you to triage ^ [00:45:10] Deskana, thanks! I was getting bored :) [00:45:36] Citoid is broken for me on MediaWiki-Vagrant. [00:45:41] Anyone having similar problems? [00:46:12] marktraceur, could you expand on "broken"? [00:46:20] matt_flaschen, * sorry [00:46:36] Yep, I was just putting together a paste: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P830 [00:55:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Analytics, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 7Database, 3VisualEditor 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Backfill rctag data for VisualEditor from 2015-05-23–2015-05-28 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101270#1394944 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) @Jdforrester-WMF, I just queried enwiki's `change_tag` and `tag_s... [00:59:01] 10Citoid, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: Citoid provisioning fails with npm errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103634#1394946 (10Mattflaschen) 3NEW [01:00:38] Filed as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103634 [01:19:32] 10VisualEditor: Trying to add a link to a page on another wiki instead adds an interwiki link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103635#1394973 (10Deskana) 3NEW [01:20:05] neilpquinn: Another for you! ^ [01:33:20] 10VisualEditor: Cross-wiki links look different in read mode and edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103636#1394994 (10Deskana) 3NEW [01:33:45] 10VisualEditor: Cross-wiki links look different in read mode and edit mode, instead looking like external links when viewed in edit mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103636#1395001 (10Deskana) [02:48:56] Deskana|Away: I suspect T103635 is what's known as a "feature" ;) [02:49:29] Deskana|Away: Oh nm, it's missing a colon. Right. [03:15:32] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: MWLinkAnnotationInspector: Get HtmlDocument in a different way [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/220378 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103176) [03:19:09] 10VisualEditor: Trying to add a link to a page on another wiki instead adds an interwiki link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103635#1395077 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [04:04:39] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] MWLinkAnnotationInspector: Get HtmlDocument in a different way (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/220378 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103176) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [04:40:58] 10WikiEditor, 7I18n, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-06-23_(1.26wmf11): Icons do not support fallback languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87247#1395265 (10Fomafix) 5Open>3Resolved [05:39:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Space before colon rendered as when wrapped in a reference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96673#1395330 (10Arlolra) p:5Triage>3Normal [05:39:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid: Space before colon rendered as when wrapped in a reference - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96673#1395332 (10Arlolra) a:3Arlolra [06:15:51] Krenair: Yes, everything is broken, because it is terrible, because it is bad. [06:15:54] yw. [06:37:05] (03PS8) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: Use background-image instead of for toolbar icons [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186639 [06:37:08] (03CR) 10Gerrit Patch Uploader: "This commit was uploaded using the Gerrit Patch Uploader [1]." [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186639 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [06:37:23] (03CR) 10Fomafix: "rebased" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/186639 (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [07:12:59] 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool, 6Editing-Department, 6Language-Engineering, 3Google-Summer-of-Code-2015, 7I18n: Unified language proofing tools integration framework - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89107#1395463 (10NiharikaKohli) [07:14:11] 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Graph editing in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89287#1395465 (10NiharikaKohli) [10:05:00] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2015, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: VisualEditor translathon at Wikimania Mexico - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91108#1395831 (10Qgil) [10:30:38] 10Citoid, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: Citoid provisioning fails with npm errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103634#1395922 (10mobrovac) I cannot reproduce this, but it looks like in your VM either: - `/home/vagrant/tmp` is for some reason owned by root; or - `/home/vagrant` doesn't exist at all (highly unli... [11:16:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: Assist de/it/pl/pt/ru/meta-wiki communities in updating their edit-notice systems to stop hidden content showing as "1 notice" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95822#1396044 (10He7d3r) Afects English Wikipedia too, at https://en... [12:53:42] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218642 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:13:28] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218317 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:50:43] 10VisualEditor, 7Design, 3VisualEditor 2014/15 Q4 blockers: [Usability] Convert the pop-over suggestions list to be an embedded search widget in the link inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101169#1396394 (10Esanders) We need some more views with different results sets. How does this look with 0,1... [15:17:52] (03CR) 10TheDJ: [C: 04-1] "There is no reason to back port this in my opinion." [extensions/WikiEditor] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/220344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37342) (owner: 10Paladox) [15:19:04] (03CR) 10Paladox: "Should I abandon then." [extensions/WikiEditor] (REL1_25) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/220344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37342) (owner: 10Paladox) [15:24:59] James, did triaging of tasks for Q1 start yet? [15:29:26] Elitre: Next week. [15:30:05] ok. it'll be a long meeting, apparently :) [15:36:09] Elitre: No, we'll just do it until we run out of time [15:37:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: Assist dewiki/itwiki/plwiki/ptwiki/ruwiki/enwikibooks/metawiki communities in updating their edit-notice systems to stop hidden content showing as "1 notice" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95822#1396695 (10Krenair) [15:38:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: Assist dewiki/itwiki/plwiki/ptwiki/ruwiki/enwikibooks/metawiki communities in updating their edit-notice systems to stop hidden content showing as "1 notice" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95822#1396699 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Ple... [15:38:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: Assist de/it/pl/pt/ru-wiki communities in updating their edit-notice systems to stop hidden content showing as "1 notice" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95822#1396708 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [15:41:47] 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 3VisualEditor 2015/16 Q1 blockers: VisualEditor hangs on loading a specific article in IE11 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97788#1396723 (10Elitre) James, I'm afraid this is not about a single article, I can't get VE to load on any article at es.wiki,... [15:41:49] James_F, so...new task for those? [15:43:26] Krenair: Sure, but we probably won't accept it as a high priority piece of work. There were three announcements asking people to update their wikis. [15:43:35] ok [15:45:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Fix "1 notice" on the remaining wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103693#1396730 (10Krenair) 3NEW [15:45:50] James, I probably missed those announcements. If this is something wikis can fix on their own, please remind me how? [15:50:11] Elitre: Tech/News in 2014 a couple of times. Exactly how to fix it is "hard", and I don't know how to fix it. [15:53:21] hallo [15:53:22] James_F, you asked me to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/217469/1 but I'm not sure what's going on here. We're replacing a check against ['mw:Image/Thumb', 'mw:Image/Frame', 'mw:Image/Frameless', 'mw:Image'] with one against [ 'mw:Error' ] ? [15:53:58] I started maniacally tracking the appearance of in Hebrew Wikipedia. [15:54:30] Krenair: I think it inherits the check from its parent? [15:55:10] Usually there are between 10 and 30 edits with in the main space every day. [15:55:17] Yesterday and the day before it was 9. [15:55:31] Today is still at only 1 and it's not a bad , but a good intentional one. [15:57:41] I think I see 2 in the last 500 VEdits. LGTM. [15:58:12] James_F, I'm wondering if he meant getMatchRdfaTypes [15:58:22] rather than allowedRdfaTypes [15:58:23] edsanders, ^ [16:00:30] Elitre: where - in en.wikipedia? [16:00:40] no. in your wiki. [16:00:53] Elitre: huh? how do you check? [16:01:24] https://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%95%D7%97%D7%93:%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%90%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%9D&limit=500&tagfilter=visualeditor , then CTRL+F for the word nowiki ? [16:01:27] Elitre: oh, do you check all the vedits and check which have ? [16:01:43] This actually means that we have A LOT of VEdits, and it's definitely a good thing. [16:02:03] I look at all the edits that have , and most of them are also VEdits. [16:02:22] (it's impossible to have RecentChanges filtered with more than one tag.) [16:02:30] we have a nowiki tag. [16:02:43] you have over 200k VEdits, which is nice. [16:03:50] aaaaand as we're speaking there was another one, and it was vandalism :) [16:06:46] the nowiki tags were in the previous version of the article though. [16:23:58] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: "Don't you mean getMatchRdfaTypes?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/217469 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:24:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid, 3VisualEditor 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Parsoid considers template-affected content with a space between it and the template to be space-
'ed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95988#1396892 (10ssastry) This is now fixed in Parsoid master. Thi...
[16:24:45] 	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid, 3VisualEditor 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Parsoid considers template-affected content with a space between it and the template to be space-
'ed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95988#1396893 (10ssastry) 5Open>3Resolved a:3ssastry
[16:59:15] 	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team, 10Flow: VisualEditor's debug bar is behind the toolbar in Flow, making it unreachable/unclickable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103712#1397034 (10Mooeypoo) 3NEW
[17:24:22] 	 10VisualEditor: "Review changes" diff should always be displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103451#1397131 (10awight) I can believe that, but is there any data to back up this claim?
[17:34:06] 	 10VisualEditor, 10Analytics, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 7Database: Backfill rctag data for VisualEditor from 2015-05-23–2015-05-28 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101270#1397182 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) 5Open>3declined
[17:35:48] 	 So we decided not to do that, neilpquinn?
[17:37:27] 	 Krenair: It turned out the data /was/ in the DBs, just not in the RC table.
[17:37:45] 	 Krenair: Given they'll roll off reality in a few days, we decided it wasn't needed.
[17:37:53] 	 Right
[17:37:57] 	 10VisualEditor, 10Analytics, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 7Database: Backfill rctag data for VisualEditor from 2015-05-23–2015-05-28 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101270#1397195 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) It looks like T100439 affected tags in the `recentchanges` table, but not in `change_tag` or `tag_summ...
[17:38:02] 	 So it is just recentchange stuff, not revisions
[17:38:06] 	 Yeah.
[17:38:16] 	 Okay, that's why I was confused about this yesterday
[17:38:42] * James_F nods.
[17:38:49] 	 Sorry for that.
[17:39:14] * neilpquinn now knows how to write in 3rd person.
[17:39:46] 	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 3VisualEditor 2014/15 Q4 blockers: Opening the link inspector with text selected only auto-populates search results for that text on the first open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97723#1397205 (10Krenair) a:5Jdforrester-WMF>3Krenair
[18:17:48] 	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: HTML5's