[00:25:47] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison: Write August 2015 newsletter for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108401#1520393 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [00:27:16] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison: Send the August 2015 newsletter for VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108402#1520398 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) @Elitre, I have sent it to en.wp. It contains a link to the page on Meta, so I created that page for you, with a note that people can check back later i... [00:54:18] Krenair: BTW, in a shocking turn of events you actually got some actionable code review from Ed ;-) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/227002/ [00:54:59] hmm [00:55:23] this one slipped off the list at some point [00:57:19] Not the most urgent issue in the world. :-) [00:57:26] But a good one to get fixed. [01:31:01] (03PS2) 10Alex Monk: Don't error when we try to close a reference/media dialog with inspectors still open [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/227002 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96630) [05:07:29] 10WikiEditor: Added button groups to Wikieditor toolbar failing to appear following MW update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108437#1520839 (10Billinghurst) 3NEW [05:09:21] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Added button groups to Wikieditor toolbar failing to appear following MW update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108437#1520846 (10Billinghurst) [10:01:24] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Context emits visible events [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230294 [10:03:16] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Context emits visible events [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230294 [10:10:35] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Context emits resize events [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230294 [10:30:59] 10VisualEditor: HotCat doesn't load after saving a page in VisualEditor (must refresh/reload first) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103285#1521229 (10TheDJ) The Gadget only loads on 'document ready'. It's thus not compatible with VE, since VE redraws the categories. This should be fixed, by introducing hook... [10:31:08] 10VisualEditor: HotCat doesn't load after saving a page in VisualEditor (must refresh/reload first) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103285#1521231 (10TheDJ) [11:36:08] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Mobile fixes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230300 [11:36:10] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Mobile fixes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230300 (owner: 10Esanders) [11:42:17] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Mobile fixes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230300 [11:46:15] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Mobile fixes [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230300 [11:46:17] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Centre tools in mobile [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230302 [13:10:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Transclusion dialog should not suggest documentation sub pages as templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54448#1521415 (10ellif) I think we have simple way to filter out subpages of templates. [13:13:10] 10Citoid: Use start page and end page parameters for crossRef - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107647#1521417 (10Mvolz) [13:13:10] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citing doi's doesn't produce page numbers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108176#1521416 (10Mvolz) [13:15:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Transclusion dialog should not suggest documentation sub pages as templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54448#1521419 (10eranroz) Another option: instead of filtering, use sorting by usage (group by on templatelinks) in... [13:18:37] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citing doi's results in dates as YYYY-01-01 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108175#1521421 (10Mvolz) On cross ref it just says 1998, unfortunately http://search.crossref.org/dois?q=10.1016/s0305-0491(98)00022-4 [13:18:48] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citing doi's results in dates as YYYY-01-01 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108175#1521423 (10Mvolz) 5Open>3Invalid [13:30:36] hui [13:31:42] VE is offline on en.wp? [13:33:13] umm again FF issue, poor FF it sucks and sucks recently [13:34:05] VE works in enwiki with FF [15:03:57] eranroz: OK, its something with my FB [15:03:59] err FF [15:22:58] (03PS3) 10Cscott: Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert them. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 [15:24:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert them. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 (owner: 10Cscott) [15:32:10] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citing doi's results in dates as YYYY-01-01 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108175#1521527 (10Josve05a) Yeah, but Citoid shouldn't say 1 January then. And it says May on http://search.crossref.org/?q=10.1016%2FS0305-0491(98)00022-4&page= [15:36:55] (03PS1) 10Cscott: Allow more than one DataTransferHandler to match a given item. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230310 [15:37:22] (03PS4) 10Cscott: Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert them. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 [15:39:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert them. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 (owner: 10Cscott) [15:39:37] (03CR) 10Cscott: "This isn't strictly necessary for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 but it seems like a good idea." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230310 (owner: 10Cscott) [15:41:30] (03PS5) 10Cscott: Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert it. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 [15:43:08] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert it. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 (owner: 10Cscott) [16:31:06] (03PS6) 10Cscott: Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert it. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 [16:42:33] 10VisualEditor: `instanceof RegExp` not reliable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108481#1521600 (10cscott) 3NEW [16:58:06] (03PS2) 10Cscott: Allow more than one DataTransferHandler to match a given item. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230310 [16:58:08] (03PS3) 10Cscott: WIP: autolink URLs. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230145 [16:58:10] (03PS3) 10Cscott: WIP: support RegExp sequences; trigger sequence matcher after newline. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230144 [16:58:16] (03CR) 10Cscott: WIP: support RegExp sequences; trigger sequence matcher after newline. (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230144 (owner: 10Cscott) [16:58:29] (03CR) 10Eranroz: [C: 031] Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert it. [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 (owner: 10Cscott) [17:00:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: autolink URLs. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230145 (owner: 10Cscott) [17:00:42] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: support RegExp sequences; trigger sequence matcher after newline. [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230144 (owner: 10Cscott) [17:13:49] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citing doi's results in dates as YYYY-01-01 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108175#1521638 (10Mvolz) Hmm, maybe we should be using this part of the api instead; https://api.crossref.org/v1/works/http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/s0305-0491(98)00022-4 [20:00:57] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Context emits resize events (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230294 (owner: 10Esanders) [21:02:16] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Added button groups to Wikieditor toolbar failing to appear following MW update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108437#1521787 (10GOIII) [21:03:30] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Added button groups to Wikieditor toolbar failing to appear following MW update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108437#1520839 (10GOIII) [21:09:04] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Added button groups to Wikieditor toolbar failing to appear following MW update - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108437#1521818 (10GOIII) [21:09:55] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-1] Mobile fixes (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230300 (owner: 10Esanders) [21:16:40] Krenair: BTW, you looked at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/229567/ ? It's rather cool. [21:17:38] not yet [21:17:45] No rush. :-) [21:18:12] ooo nooo. don't add LinkInspector to wikitext [21:18:20] i hate inspectors [21:19:32] eranroz: Users like them, though. [21:19:52] eranroz: The perils of testing things on real users is that we find they might like things we don't necessarily think are wonderful. :_) [21:19:57] no they don't like link inspector [21:20:56] Our research shows otherwise. [21:22:13] in general VE requires "context switches" e.g to add template/link/image you must use dialog/inspector or something else that takes your cursor out of the text editing. this isn't desired for wikitext editing [21:22:55] for VE it must be used, because otherise it would require either some code with wikitext like annottions or keyboard shortcuts [21:23:09] which is cool for more advanced users [21:28:03] 10VisualEditor: autocorrect * to a bullet list without a space after the star - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108492#1521843 (10Amire80) 3NEW [21:30:32] 10Cite: No longer possible to triple-click to select an entire paragraph that contains a mid-way citation, in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108493#1521852 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [21:32:20] 10Cite, 7Browser-Support-Firefox: No longer possible to triple-click to select an entire paragraph that contains a mid-way citation, in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108493#1521864 (10matmarex) This seems Firefox-specific, and I think it's a Firefox bug. [21:45:37] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Rad." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 (owner: 10Cscott) [21:45:46] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Rad." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (owner: 10Esanders) [22:07:18] (03CR) 10Eranroz: "Nice patch!" (032 comments) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (owner: 10Esanders) [23:01:47] an unknown error? [23:02:49] the visual editor is not working on my site, and is giving 'an unknown error' when i go to save. [23:03:54] this is on a fresh 1.25.1, on debian stable, installed via these directions: http://demo1.faikvm.com/trac/wiki/AWIKIServer [23:06:15] familiar with your browser's dev tools? [23:06:51] certainly. [23:07:02] it's across the room from me... [23:10:12] ok, i'm getting 500's when it's talking to /wiki/api.php. Ow. [23:11:46] juri_, any error given in the response? [23:11:50] anything in your web server error logs? [23:15:20] juri_: My initial thought is incompatible versions of something, as it's the most common issue people run into. [23:18:23] interesting. [23:18:37] no libcurl, aparently. [23:24:47] Oh, yeah, that's a common issue. :-( [23:27:20] it's only used 6 times in 1.25.1 [23:27:59] Commonly-encountered. [23:37:09] a better error message would be nice. [23:37:33] "an unknown error" leads me to think client-side. [23:53:56] Fair.