[00:12:17] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 5Patch-For-Review: Enable VisualEditor on Meta-Wiki's Meta namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107003#1526258 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved Done. [00:15:42] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 04-1] [WIP] VisualEditor.hooks.php: Only do stuff if we're in a VE-namespace (034 comments) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:16:00] "return"? [00:16:28] I meant trigger [00:16:31] oh well [00:18:28] James_F, at one point you mentioned we should discuss enabling ve on a larger scale [00:18:34] Krenair: Want to take over that patch? [00:18:37] ok [00:19:19] Yup. [00:20:13] Right now for enwiki we're a few weeks away from getting to 100% of all new accounts getting VE. The next step after that is providing it to accounts that haven't been around for a while (because it won't be hugely surprising that things have changed for them since they last used their account). [00:20:55] Given that there are many more 'accounts that haven't been used in the past <3> months' than 'accounts that have', I think that instead of opting-in dormant accounts, we should opt-out active accounts and throw the default switch. [00:21:21] (Note that default switch doesn't mean IPs would get it necessarily; we'd probably want to wait a few weeks between default for old accounts and default for IPs.) [00:21:24] So, question. [00:21:39] Right now we have opt-in, visualeditor-enable [00:21:51] With 'default' we have opt-out via visualeditor-betatempdisable. [00:22:58] To avoid disrupting existing active accounts, should we (a) just set visualeditor-betatempdisable to true, (b) come up with a third item, visualeditor-autodisable, which can be unset by the user but never set again and is invisible, or (c) some other option? [00:29:00] (03PS2) 10Alex Monk: Only add tab on the server-side if we're in a VE-namespace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:30:52] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Only add tab on the server-side if we're in a VE-namespace (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:31:10] 10Citoid, 10RESTBase, 6Services, 7RESTBase-API: Set-up Citoid behind RESTBase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108646#1526308 (10mobrovac) >>! In T108646#1526139, @GWicke wrote: > Would it make sense to share citations globally whenever the content does not vary by `Accept-Language`? Yes, definitely.... [00:31:32] (03PS3) 10Alex Monk: Only add tab on the server-side if we're in a VE-namespace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:32:02] James_F, just use what $config? [00:32:15] oh [00:32:16] oops. [00:32:22] *That* $config. [00:32:24] Krenair: Two lines further down, rather than re-creating the object. [00:32:25] :-) [00:32:28] Yup. [00:32:51] I only noticed it when looking at the diff. This code is… messy. [00:33:36] (03PS4) 10Alex Monk: Only add tab on the server-side if we're in a VE-namespace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:33:48] Completely untested, btw [00:34:00] That makes two of us. :-) [00:34:38] Maybe extract to a method? [00:38:19] and then make another config object? [00:39:21] Just pass it? [00:39:29] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] "Right direction. Testing would be nice. :-) Maybe move the generic checks to a private method shared between the tab and section link meth" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:40:10] Also we should probably put something in init/init saying "keep in synch with VisualEditor.hooks.php#onSkinTemplate…" or whatever, and v.v. [00:40:12] James_F, are we just using the normal mediawiki definition of 'active' users? [00:40:37] Krenair: I was thinking of something more conservative – active in the past three months or whatever. [00:40:49] do we know how many users that'd be? [00:40:52] But we might need to adjust that based on what the community think. [00:41:01] Probably fewer than 100k. [00:41:10] Most likely 50k or fewer. [00:43:46] The "other" group is going to be ~25M accounts, so let's definitely not need to set any preferences for them. [00:44:02] I'm not a huge fan of going around and explicitly setting the opt-out preference on a ton of accounts [00:44:38] Better than opting-in by default a lot of people who'll be upset and aren't the main user group. [00:45:15] The advantage of having a distinct preference for auto-opt-outs as opposed to 'real' opt-outs is that we can target things in future differently (e.g. asking users if they want to try out VE will probably be more annoying to people who've already explicitly said 'no' than others). [00:45:35] Right [00:45:38] The main disadvantage is complexity and a new kind of self-removing preference or something odd. [00:45:38] I do like that idea [00:45:55] The code for it might be a bit of a pain [00:46:23] Yeah. [00:46:27] Not to mention the UI. [00:46:35] Buttons that disappear when you click on them. [00:46:42] A bit Alice-in-Wonderland. :-) [00:48:10] James_F, we could hide it behind the scenes [00:48:30] just pretend they've opted out explicitly and show them the appropriate preferences for that [00:48:45] True. [00:48:59] Can Special:Preferences support dynamic option values? [00:49:53] I think so...maybe [00:52:47] Okay, tomorrow's project: See if I can implement that. [00:54:49] Or rather, one of tomorrow's projects [00:54:56] "dynamic option values"? [00:55:31] you can add a preference of the 'api' type to be able to just store anything there with the action=options API, without any UI on Special:Preferences. [00:56:47] need to figure out if we can make the UI for real preferences silently take that into account though [00:57:46] I think we'd want to catch the user enabling VE explicitly through other preferences and chuck out the autodisable? [00:59:39] enwiki alone has almost 100 million user_properties records, I'm sure we can throw in another 50k [01:01:08] * James_F nods. [01:01:52] MatmaRex: As in, it shows the value of key 'foo' based on a function, rather than the value of key 'foo', because possible key 'bar' will be set and the function will thus show 'true' when foo is not set. [01:02:18] MatmaRex: It's more than just 'not showing' key 'bar'. [01:05:15] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Also, this should be tagged against T91285." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/217257 (owner: 10Divec) [01:06:22] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor blocks ctrl-0 (=default font size) in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108623#1526396 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T108623#1525404, @Raymond wrote: >>>! In T108623#1525394, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >> Yes, it's a keyboard shortcut. Like with several of these, they have spec... [01:07:05] James_F: Krenair: make 'foo' and 'bar' use 'type'=>'api', and add another field with 'type'=>'info' (=no preference associated, just a text blob), and put any UI you want into the blob (which really is HTML). that should be reasonably sane with the 'GetPreferences' hook. [01:07:36] MatmaRex: Hmm. Eww. But hmm. [01:07:49] the alternative would be to implement a HTMLFormField subclass for a custom 'type', i guess [01:08:07] but implementing a HTMLFormField subclass can drive a grown man to tears [01:08:23] So visualeditor-betatempdisable would become info, visualeditor-betatemprealdisable would be the 'real' one, and visualeditor-betatempextradisable would be the sometimes-one? [01:08:31] Sounds… exceptionally messy. [01:08:41] Maybe we shouldn't bother? [01:09:04] Even people who've opted out might want to know about VE in a few months'/years' time. [01:09:30] no, they'd both be 'api', i think, and a new one would be added with 'type'=>'info' [01:09:32] eh, hm [01:09:47] MatmaRex: But visualeditor-betatempdisable already exists (and has values set). [01:09:53] i guess you could change the 'type' dynamically. 'toggle' if you want to show the checkbox, 'api' if you want to hide it. [01:09:57] MatmaRex: Not a greenfield situation. [01:10:01] James_F: doesn't matter [01:10:10] Maaaaaybe. [01:10:20] * James_F leaves a decision on how insane this is to Krenair. [01:10:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Epic: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone default enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1526402 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:13:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: On iOS Safari in desktop, opening the software keyboard scrolls the toolbar out of view, and dismissing the keyboard brings a mostly-greyed toolbar, so the user cannot insert a spec... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95414#1526417 [01:14:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: On iOS Safari in desktop, opening the software keyboard scrolls the toolbar out of view, and dismissing the keyboard brings a mostly-greyed toolbar, so the user cannot insert a spec... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95414#1189199 [01:16:28] 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: On iOS in desktop, when typing "{{" the surface scrolls far down - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95248#1526422 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:16:45] 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: On iOS in desktop, when typing "{{" the surface scrolls far down - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95248#1184295 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Normal>3Lowest On review, this works fine on the actual mobile site. Consequently, I'm de-prioritising this, as we don't... [01:17:37] 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: In iOS on desktop, typing "{{" opens the template dialog off screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95410#1526431 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:17:46] 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: In iOS on desktop, typing "{{" opens the template dialog off screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95410#1189118 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Normal>3Lowest On review, this works fine on the actual mobile site. Consequently, I'm de-prioritising this, as we don... [01:19:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 3Reading-Web: Mobile VE - Cite dialogue fields are buggy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91849#1526455 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF Looks like this now works fine. [01:22:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Plugins, 10VisualEditor-Tables, and 2 others: Support tables (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41596#1526461 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:22:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Editing tables in Mobile - Edit mode displays broken tables - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T74819#1526459 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved Checked and seems to be working well. [01:42:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 3Reading-Web: Table design overlaps Overlay header in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103293#1526489 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF Have tested and this seems to work well now. [01:42:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 3Reading-Web: Table design overlaps Overlay header in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103293#1526492 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:5Jdforrester-WMF>3Esanders [01:45:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Epic: Make VisualEditor good enough for mobile tablet and phone default enablement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94725#1526510 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:45:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: VisualEditor Mobile: Performance issue with adding Citations in Mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72184#1526507 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF Tested and performance is more than adequate on my iPhone. [03:55:34] (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: Silence deprecation and invalid param warnings in API responses [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230727 [05:19:01] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Silence deprecation and invalid param warnings in API responses [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230727 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [06:51:21] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add support for restful crossRef api - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108175#1526676 (10Mvolz) [07:58:29] 10VisualEditor: Failure to render some broken links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107434#1526729 (10awight) @Jdforrester-WMF: Aha, thank you! Now I understand what you meant by "language link"... /me joins the ranks of those personally wronged by wikitext [09:45:13] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] "There's also mw.widgets.TitleInputWidget.js in core." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230727 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [09:45:25] 10Citoid, 6Security, 6Security-Team, 10Traffic, and 2 others: http://citoid.wikimedia.org/ should force HTTPS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108632#1526828 (10mobrovac) >>! In T108632#1526127, @BBlack wrote: > If you think we can flip the switch now, I'm all for it. I gather from this that if we fli... [09:46:20] (03CR) 10Esanders: [WIP] Delete button for node context items (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) (owner: 10Esanders) [09:47:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Silence deprecation and invalid param warnings in API responses [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230727 (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [10:06:54] (03PS1) 10Amire80: Slightly rephrase visualeditor-dialog-media-alttext-section-help [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230747 [10:07:49] (03PS2) 10Amire80: Slightly rephrase visualeditor-dialog-media-alttext-section-help [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230747 [10:41:31] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [10:48:17] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [10:50:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 5Patch-For-Review: Selecting nodes (references/images/templates) on iOS < 8 causes the on-screen keyboard to close, so they cannot be deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110#1526990 (10Esanders) Mobile styling: {F1273774} [10:57:15] (03PS4) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [10:59:18] (03PS5) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [11:03:07] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) (owner: 10Esanders) [11:18:26] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Adding Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics to FR Wikisource Special Character Toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108626#1527027 (10Aklapper) Thanks for taking the time to report this! This seems to be about WikiEditor, hence setting that project. [11:22:14] (03PS6) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [11:35:27] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Fix resizable node teardown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105364) [11:47:19] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Mobile: Typing {{ in the Web visual editor fails to show the dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108677#1527080 (10Nnemo) 3NEW [11:48:45] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Mobile: Typing {{ in the Web visual editor fails to show the dialog and gives a puzzling UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108677#1527088 (10Nnemo) [11:49:46] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 7Mobile: Typing {{ in the Web visual editor fails to show the dialog and gives a broken and puzzling UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108677#1527091 (10Nnemo) [11:54:57] (03PS7) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [11:54:59] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Store default button config in a static property [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230760 [11:55:02] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Alien context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 [11:57:46] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Alien context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:13:07] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 [12:15:38] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:28:22] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 [12:28:24] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Alien context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 [12:28:26] (03PS8) 10Esanders: Delete button for node context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) [12:31:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Alien context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:32:09] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:32:22] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor blocks ctrl-0 (=default font size) in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108623#1527171 (10Esanders) 5Open>3Invalid a:3Esanders [12:33:35] 10VisualEditor: VE introduces tables with weird href attributes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108506#1527174 (10Esanders) Where was the table copied from? [12:40:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Reference div overlaps Infobox div - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104540#1527181 (10Esanders) There's not much that can be done about this. The HTML box model says that they do indeed overlap, it's just the text flow algorithm that stops them colliding. Th... [12:44:58] 10VisualEditor: Enable the visual editor in the Wikipedia namespace on the English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100067#1527189 (10Esanders) +1, WP namespace is mostly policy articles, so I don't see a problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_namespace [12:48:08] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 [12:48:10] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Alien context items [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 [12:49:22] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] ve.ce.adjustLinkSelection: fixup link-bisecting selections [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/222488 (owner: 10Divec) [12:51:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:36:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10OOjs-UI, and 2 others: [Regression pre-wmf17] Link suggestions are not appearing for mobile VE because the z-index system was broken in OOUI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107619#1527226 (10Esanders) 5Open>3Resolved [14:01:55] (03CR) 10He7d3r: [C: 031] Fix resizable node teardown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105364) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:27:42] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Slightly rephrase visualeditor-dialog-media-alttext-section-help [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230747 (owner: 10Amire80) [14:31:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Slightly rephrase visualeditor-dialog-media-alttext-section-help [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230747 (owner: 10Amire80) [14:40:46] 10VisualEditor: Please generate a list of Most referenced domains on the German Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108689#1527460 (10Elitre) 3NEW [15:30:08] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Fix resizable node teardown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105364) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:30:47] edsanders: Did you want to +2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/217222/ ? [15:32:02] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Context: Store default button config in a static property [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230760 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:32:12] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Context: Store default button config in a static property [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230760 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:33:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix resizable node teardown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230755 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105364) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:07] (03PS9) 10Jforrester: MobileContext: Provide a delete button for nodes' context [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:12] (03PS10) 10Jforrester: MobileContext: Provide a delete button for nodes' context [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:17] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] MobileContext: Provide a delete button for nodes' context [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:50] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: MobileContext: Provide a fallback context item for alien nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:53] (03PS5) 10Jforrester: MobileContext: Provide a fallback context item for alien nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:58] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] MobileContext: Provide a fallback context item for alien nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:35:41] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:37:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Context: Store default button config in a static property [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230760 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:37:14] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:37:33] edsanders: Or any of Scott's stuff? [15:38:04] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: MobileContext: Provide a delete button for nodes' context [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230592 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:38:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: MobileContext: Provide a fallback context item for alien nodes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230761 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:40:35] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:42:39] Krenair: Did you get a chance to test https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/230701/ ? It'd be nice to get it out with the cut… [15:42:48] Krenair: (Or indeed before it, cherry-picked to prod.) [15:43:38] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (d3d2293) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230794 [15:43:51] edsanders: And https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230794 would be nice to merge before the cut too. [15:47:41] James_F, okay, so I reproduced the issue locally and this fixes it [15:48:14] unfortunately there's another issue locally - you start with two "Edit" or "Create" tabs and then it waits for JS to load before it renames one of them [15:50:11] James_F, although I can't reproduce that issue in production [15:53:34] James_F, let's get this commit in? [15:53:46] Krenair: Yeah. [15:53:54] Krenair: I'll +1 and you +2? [15:54:43] You already did +1 [15:54:48] Shall I merge it then? [15:54:53] Yeah. [15:54:57] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Only add tab on the server-side if we're in a VE-namespace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:56:29] Krenair: Want to +2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230794 too? [15:57:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Only add tab on the server-side if we're in a VE-namespace [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230701 (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:00:34] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (d3d2293) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230794 (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:03:00] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (d3d2293) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230794 (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:05:28] Thanks Krenair. [16:36:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 6Design Research Backlog, 7Epic: Change how link annotations work to actively enter/leave the annotation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91285#1078952 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:56:43] (03PS5) 10Alex Monk: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:59:50] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:00:34] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-04_(1.26wmf17): VisualEditor's debug bar is behind the toolbar in Flow, making it unreachable/unclickable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103712#1527924 (10Mooeypoo) 5Open>3Resolved [17:02:03] 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Graph editing in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89287#1527928 (10Mooeypoo) [17:07:49] 10MediaWiki-extensions-Graph-VE, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10Parsoid, and 2 others: Graph editing in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89287#1527948 (10Mooeypoo) Regarding the questions: - We're confident we'll complete the project goals. - We're already merging the code (large pieces o... [17:26:08] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Template placeholder: Don't show delete button if we're the only transclusion part [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230814 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95252) [17:27:12] Krenair: I thought you had a patch for that already? [17:27:34] Krenair: Oh, I see. [17:27:44] We hid one button but not the other [17:27:50] * James_F nods. [17:27:55] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Template placeholder: Don't show delete button if we're the only transclusion part [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230814 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95252) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [17:28:07] edsanders: ^^^ Quick merge before the cut? [17:28:47] Oh, damn, already happened. Oh well. [17:30:19] James_F, https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/npm/18459/console [17:30:49] Krenair: … huh. [17:31:14] It doesn't like not finding those files? [17:31:24] oh, wait [17:31:29] there's more errors below [17:35:03] wtf? [17:36:34] Bad rebase? [17:38:20] works for me locally.. [17:40:29] Ah. [17:43:07] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 04-1] "Looks like this needs to update the mock ve.ui.Surface in ve.test.utils.createSurfaceViewFromDocument to pass tests" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:47:30] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Adding Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics to FR Wikisource Special Character Toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108626#1528120 (10Ernest-Mtl) >>! In T108626#1527027, @Aklapper wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to report this! > > This seems to be about WikiEditor, hen... [17:51:42] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-1] "Dependency is not yet merged." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/204509 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:52:22] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Don't error when we try to close a reference/media dialog with inspectors still open [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/227002 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96630) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [18:21:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Can't edit table cell contents in Foxpro on Ubuntu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108712#1528348 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [18:25:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Change "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528358 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [18:31:24] 10WikiEditor, 6Wikisource: Adding Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics to FR Wikisource Special Character Toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108626#1528375 (10Krenair) Should be possible for an on-wiki admin to set up in a gadget, e.g. this adds 'a' to the 'latin' special characters page: `$( '#wpTe... [18:36:39] (03PS6) 10Esanders: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 [18:38:20] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:41:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hide on-screen keyboard when selecting nodes on all mobile platforms [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230763 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:42:09] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Change label in "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528436 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:42:46] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Change label in "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528358 (10Jdforrester-WMF) The current label was the result of much searching for something that made it clear it was different from all the others. I... [18:49:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Can't edit table cell contents in Foxpro on Ubuntu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108712#1528463 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled What is FoxPro? I assume it's a browser? The Web seems to think it's a coding environment… [18:51:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs, 7JavaScript: Infinite collapsing/uncollapsing of VisualEditor's Edit tab (?)when FlaggedRevs is also installed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108588#1528465 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled [18:53:09] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Don't error when we try to close a reference/media dialog with inspectors still open [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/227002 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96630) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [18:53:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Please don't convert interwiki links to external links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108718#1528469 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [18:53:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: "this.imageModel/referenceModel is null" appears if you close the basic reference or MediaSettings dialog while keeping an inspector open inside it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96630#1528476 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Ope... [18:55:50] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department: Investigate why visual editor users have a higher save rate in EventLogging data but didn't in the A/B test - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108241#1528481 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:56:00] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department: Define performance indicators for the VisualEditor team - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107351#1528482 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:57:39] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Change label in "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528491 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) Non-standard? Non-template? Freeform? [18:57:40] (03CR) 10Catrope: "This was a breaking change for code that subclasses sa.Target :( should have been marked as such." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230522 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:58:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Please don't convert interwiki links to external links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108718#1528496 (10Krenair) 5Open>3Invalid a:3Krenair What we actually do is show interwiki links as external links to the editor, and they can edit that. When you sa... [19:01:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't error when we try to close a reference/media dialog with inspectors still open [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/227002 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96630) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [19:03:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 10MediaWiki-Templates, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-11_(1.26wmf18): Support editing table cells whose formatting is defined by a template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85648#1528546 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:5Jdforrester-WMF>3Esanders [19:03:36] James_F, why did we blacklist Android < 3 ? [19:04:39] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Change label in "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528550 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:08:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10Parsoid: VE adds images with pointless link parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108504#1528604 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:09:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10Parsoid: VE adds images with pointless link parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108504#1522184 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:09:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Change to the sequence for bullet list from '^* ' to '^*' (dropping the whitespace requirement) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108492#1528615 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF This is the standard shortcut used in GDocs/Office/etc. [19:12:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: [Regression] Save dialog clears its contents on each open, making progressively writing the summary impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329#1528622 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:12:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: [Regression] Save dialog clears its contents on each open, making progressively writing the summary impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329#1518158 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:13:06] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add support for restful crossRef api - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108175#1528629 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:14:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Copy and paste(?) leads to VE adding non-breaking spaces inside span tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108155#1528644 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:14:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Copy and paste(?) leads to VE adding non-breaking spaces inside span tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108155#1513725 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:14:57] 10VisualEditor: VE adds improper links in Files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108154#1528651 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:14:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 10Parsoid: VE adds images with pointless link parameter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108504#1528652 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:16:15] (03CR) 10Cscott: Detect paste of wikitext or bare autolinkable text and convert it. (035 comments) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230146 (owner: 10Cscott) [19:16:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Copying of a reference lead VE to add sup tags with attributes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108153#1528661 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:19:17] 10VisualEditor: VE keeps moving comma with comment in newline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100532#1528685 (10JAufrecht) [19:20:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Loading the read view while VE is loading can create a fused page with both the read and VE versions of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99139#1528688 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:21:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Copy-paste of odd content into VE introduces tables with weird href attributes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108506#1528695 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:22:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: VisualEditor: Newly inserted inline templates do not take annotations from the surrounding text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65670#1528700 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:23:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design: Highlight that you can incrementally adjust the edit summary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71393#1528705 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:23:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design: Highlight that you can incrementally adjust the edit summary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71393#1528709 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:23:42] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor: Paste from Word to Firefox inserts garbage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75292#1528710 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled [19:24:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: In extended transclusion dialog, clicking the up/down arrow button-icons to move transclusions causes highlight to jump around - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75694#1528711 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF [19:25:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Template inside
  • creates an extra bullet with inline slug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60335#1528718 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF [19:25:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: VisualEditor: Pasting a template throws undefined getModel error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60383#1528721 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF [19:25:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor:Adding a heading after hiero includes the tags within the heading showing inconsistent heading format on Read mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60667#1528725 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled Is this still occurring? [19:26:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor:Empty tags added & tooltip shown while switching to other window when hiero insertion tool is open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60115#1528727 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled Is this still occurring? [19:26:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor:After deleting a reference list along with reference, the order of the first reference does not get deleted in FireFox 25 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60921#1528736 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled Is this still occurring? [19:27:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor:The page alignment of the articles in betalabs is appearing more towards left - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60947#1528738 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF This was the ill-advised changes to the Typography Refresh update. [19:28:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-Tables: VisualEditor:Hiero is getting copied as Empty template while copying from Chrome to FF - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60982#1528741 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled Is this still occurring? [19:29:00] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor:"TypeError :this.timings is undefined "appears while attempting to save a page which was open for a while - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T61090#1528743 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled Is this still occurring? [19:31:24] edsanders: It claims to do CE support but it doesn't actually trigger a keyboard when it's there. [19:33:25] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "> sa.Target" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230522 (owner: 10Esanders) [19:34:57] edsanders: And Alphabet sure as hell aren't going to release Android 2.3.10 or whatever with that as a fix. [19:35:05] edsanders: Yay for embedded OSes. [19:40:01] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Don't reset edit summary every time we open the save dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230848 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329) [19:40:54] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Don't reset edit summary every time we open the save dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230848 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [19:47:23] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Change label in "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528786 (10GermanJoe) Aside from the best name, would it be possible to separate this function from the other "regular" templates with a horizontal div... [19:47:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Improve awkward handling of link display text ("label") when inserting wiki page, wiki files, or external links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101417#1528788 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF We are not going to add an input box to t... [19:49:53] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Show separation between template and 'basic' citation types in the "manual" tab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108725#1528794 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW [19:50:00] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 7Design: Change label in "Basic form" to "Basic" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108713#1528358 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T108713#1528786, @GermanJoe wrote: > Aside from the best name, would it be possible to separate this function from t... [20:06:56] RoanKattouw_away: Could I get your input on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108481 ? Ed suggests Declined, but you're a stakeholder on JS compatibility of VE too. :-) [20:07:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Copy-paste of odd content into VE introduces tables with weird href attributes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108506#1528888 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled [20:08:20] 10VisualEditor: Lines concatenanted and losing breaks (grouped together) after edit on fr.wp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108550#1528894 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This looks like an issue with pasting wikitext, and Parsoid's aggressive anti-``'ing code? [20:08:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Lines concatenanted and losing breaks (grouped together) after edit on fr.wp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108550#1528897 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:08:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Lines concatenanted and losing breaks (grouped together) after edit on fr.wp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108550#1528899 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled Parsoid team, any ideas? [20:10:02] it looks like parsoid tries to implement RL for wikitext in the above bug :) [20:12:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Can't edit table cell contents in Foxpro on Ubuntu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108712#1528931 (10WereSpielChequers) Firefox after autocorrect, either that or somebody needs coffee. I have now succeeded on one occasion, possibly whoever was doing those typos was m... [20:16:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Can't edit table cell contents in Firefox on Ubuntu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108712#1528968 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [20:16:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Can't edit table cell contents in Firefox on Ubuntu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108712#1528348 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) I've corrected it. Were those tables built out of templates, by any chance? [20:32:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Design: Come up with a way to move/remove/duplicate focusable nodes in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101113#1529038 (10Esanders) Remove is provided by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/230592/ [20:34:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Design: Come up with a way to move/remove/duplicate focusable nodes in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101113#1529043 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:34:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-11_(1.26wmf18): Selecting nodes (references/images/templates) on iOS < 8 causes the on-screen keyboard to close, so they cannot be deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110#1529042 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:34:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-11_(1.26wmf18): Selecting nodes (references/images/templates) on iOS < 8 causes the on-screen keyboard to close, so they cannot be deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62110#661409 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:34:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Design: Come up with a way to move/remove/duplicate focusable nodes in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101113#1329945 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:37:26] 10VisualEditor: `instanceof RegExp` not reliable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108481#1529078 (10Catrope) >>! In T108481#1524847, @Esanders wrote: > This problem (RegExp !== frame.contentWindow.RegExp) is not specific to RegExp. If we were going to be context neutral we'd need to fix all uses of instanceo... [20:38:06] 10VisualEditor: `instanceof RegExp` not reliable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108481#1529084 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF Okie-dokie. [20:44:05] James_F, what should happen to a user's autodisable pref when they explicitly enable VE? [20:44:14] just gets set to false? deleted entirely? [20:44:23] Krenair: It should go null (and never get set again). [20:44:54] Default setting will be false, right, so won't it get cleaned up magically to null when it gets set to false? [20:46:45] 10VisualEditor: Create third version of VE burnup report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107482#1529118 (10JAufrecht) [20:48:22] James_F, is that to do with Android version of Android Browser version? [20:48:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Copy-paste of odd content into VE introduces tables with weird href attributes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108506#1529139 (10Lfstevens) Table was copied from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Solar_variation&oldid=673551856 [20:48:58] edsanders: I thought they weren't separable until Android 3? [20:49:16] but it has versions numbers we can reliably detect? [20:49:28] Can we? [20:49:43] Ask Roan. He was the one that put this in. Or Inez. Or maybe Trevor. [20:49:49] It was a long time ago we found this issue. [20:50:20] * edsanders checks user agent strings [20:54:49] James_F, what is the canonical repo for jQuery client? [20:58:21] edsanders: https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery-client [20:58:34] edsanders: Note that Krinkle_ merged a breaking change for version 2.0.0 and we've not yet moved to it. [20:58:45] (Edge and IE are no longer regarded as the same.) [21:01:43] Everything was going so well until I had to consider the BetaFeatures extension. [21:08:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Can't edit table cell contents in Firefox on Ubuntu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108712#1529199 (10WereSpielChequers) Not sure and won't be able to check easily for a couple of days till I get back to a PC. If you look at my last 100 or so main space edits and exc... [21:08:37] 10VisualEditor: Reach Service Level Understanding between VE and Scrum of Scrums - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107334#1529200 (10JAufrecht) [21:15:07] BetaFeatures is the worst [21:18:19] edsanders, hi [21:18:34] ankita-ks, hi [21:18:40] I am almost done with the language proofing tool implementation [21:18:45] great [21:18:51] There is this thing I am stuck with [21:19:26] I am trying to insert a drop down widget where the 'replace' textInputWidget usually is in FindAndReplace [21:19:58] I started with something basic : v [21:20:00] https://doc.wikimedia.org/oojs-ui/master/js/#!/api/OO.ui.DropdownWidget [21:20:23] ok [21:20:31] But when I click on the drop down widget, I can not see any options [21:20:39] I can see them in the DOM [21:21:07] I changed the css properties and set it to oo-ui-dropDownWidget from oo-ui-textInputWidget [21:21:25] Could you help me figure out what am I doing wrong? [21:21:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10jQuery-Client, 7Browser-Support-Firefox: VisualEditor not available on Firefox for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101483#1529263 (10Esanders) [21:23:43] so are you creating a new dialog that is similar to find and replace? [21:24:08] yes, it is almost exactly similar to FindAndReplace [21:34:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10jQuery-Client, 7Browser-Support-Firefox: VisualEditor not available on Firefox for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101483#1529377 (10Esanders) This is a bug with jQuery client: Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Mobile; rv:13.0) Gecko/13.0 Firefox/13.0 s... [21:34:56] what have you written to create a dropdown widget? [21:35:12] Krinkle_, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101483 [21:37:22] edsanders : https://gist.github.com/ankita-kumari/f7c08557c006b0c1573f#file-ext-languagetooldialog-js-L91 [21:38:30] that should work - the documentation you linked to shows it working [21:39:55] I don't think DropdownWidget has a .setValue() method, does it? [21:40:05] or .getValue() [21:40:11] https://gist.github.com/ankita-kumari/f7c08557c006b0c1573f#file-ext-languagetooldialog-js-L634 [21:40:29] no [21:41:48] getSelectedItem().getData() [21:42:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Improve awkward handling of link display text ("label") when inserting wiki page, wiki files, or external links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101417#1529451 (10G.Hagedorn) So you basically say that your usability research shows that google docs have it totall... [21:59:32] edsanders : sorry, I was afk [21:59:51] No, it does not have getValue exactly [21:59:55] I will change that [21:59:58] but even so [22:00:09] The dropdown should load, or shouldn't it? [22:01:08] RoanKattouw, that function is called only when a button is clicked. [22:01:52] But the dropdown loads before that. [22:02:56] Hmm [22:03:08] And you see the options in the DOM, but they're not visible when you click the dropdown? [22:03:13] Maybe there's a CSS issue of some sort then [22:03:14] yes, exactly [22:03:22] yes, i thought so too [22:03:45] But as far as I understand I made the relevant css changes [22:03:52] But I could've missed something [22:05:23] you shouldn't have to make any CSS changes [22:06:35] except change oo-ui-textInputWidget to oo-ui-dropDownWidget, no? [22:06:45] it could be that the options are being clipped off the bottom [22:06:45] you may have to change the $overlay [22:08:00] where do I do that? [22:11:25] 10VisualEditor: Make Cycle Time Chart for VE Backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106356#1529630 (10JAufrecht) [22:11:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 10MediaWiki-Templates, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-11_(1.26wmf18): Support editing table cells whose formatting is defined by a template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85648#1529633 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:12:13] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 7Mobile: In the mobile Web visual editor, trying to edit the template call fails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91880#1529635 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:12:30] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf22] The icon for Citations are getting overlapped with text inside the Autofill Citation dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92688#1529636 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:12:42] 10VisualEditor: If you encounter an error while trying to save, and dismiss the error, you can't try to save the page again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103631#1529638 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:12:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Google-Chrome: VisualEditor Mobile: Cannot add any citation in Mobile VE using Chrome as there is no Insert button appearing for the dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107543#1529639 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:13:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: sizing of footnote tags (e.g. [12]) inconsistent. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52095#1529640 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:13:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Provide some way of opening external links within templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52966#1529642 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:13:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Browser-Support-Firefox, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Page text sometimes pops up through the Media insertion dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53450#1529644 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:13:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Move-dragging a media item shows the copy cursor on Mac/Safari - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53696#1529653 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:13:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Save page button does not work if user includes reflist template while there is already reference list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59326#1529655 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:13:49] 10VisualEditor: Create third version of VE burnup report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107482#1529656 (10JAufrecht) [22:14:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor:Reflist is appearing as bullet list if while inserting reflist the cursor is at the end of an empty bulleted item - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59691#1529657 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor:The format of the text does not change if the cursor is at the end of the text though the options are highlighted in the menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59759#1529658 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: Cut and Paste of references occasionally fails - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60552#1529659 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 7Browser-Support-Firefox, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Pasting formulæ isn't working in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60767#1529660 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:26] 10VisualEditor, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: adding a reference duplicates infobox on da.wp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T61600#1529661 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:33] 10VisualEditor, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor isn't able to handle header and row templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62598#1529662 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor:Trying to add an image as a bullet list item removes the bullet but the Bullet list option remains selected in the menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64354#1529663 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:14:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Browser-Support-Firefox, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: In Firefox, the context menu's background sometimes does not appear for items inside a media caption (but the icons appear still) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66332#1529665 (10Jdforreste... [22:14:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Browser-Support-Firefox, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: Save dialog looks glitched after pressing the final save button on Firefox 29 on Windows 7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67435#1529666 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:15:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Support editing {{int:name}} blocks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67644#1529673 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:15:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: When providing a list of potential links, show redirects' destinations, not just that they are redirects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67890#1529674 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:15:43] 10VisualEditor, 7Technical-Debt, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: ResourcesTest::testUnsatisfiableDependencies: The module 'mobile.editor.ve' must not have target 'desktop' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70956#1529676 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:15:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 5VisualEditor pre-2015 work: VisualEditor: Please show the file name in the media dialog, and make it easy to copy it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71726#1529678 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:16:02] 10VisualEditor, 7Mobile: test2 Mobile - many Console error when switching between VE and Edit Source - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86273#1529679 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:16:17] 10VisualEditor, 5Patch-For-Review, 3Reading-Web-Sprint-52-Zoolander: Revisit box-sizing: border-box for everything in MobileFrontend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86366#1529681 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:16:23] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor hangs while opening - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97346#1529682 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [22:32:33] Krenair: Do you need to consider the BF extension? [22:32:39] I'm not sure. [22:32:45] Krenair: This is to be used for wikis without it being used for VE… [22:32:46] I was planning to ask you when you came back :) [22:32:52] * James_F is now back. :-0 [22:33:39] This is to be used for wikis where VE doesn't add itself to BF? [22:34:06] Yes. [22:34:11] Three states of overall config: [22:34:18] 1) VE on by default. [22:34:24] 2) VE off by default, in BF. [22:34:36] 3) (This one) VE on by default, but semi-off for some users. [22:35:12] (There's also 1a) which is VE on by default but not for anons, which we'll also be in, but you don't care.) [22:35:34] edsanders : where can I change the overlay? [22:35:46] James_F, okay, great [22:35:55] James_F, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99139 - were you able to reproduce this? [22:36:00] ankita-ks, I believe the $overlay config option [22:36:18] Krenair: No, but neilpquinn says he reproduced a week ago or so. [22:36:40] Ew. [22:36:43] I just really broke it. [22:36:49] Broke VE? [22:36:51] In a different way - Edit and then Read half way through [22:36:59] But it ended up with a blank page instead [22:37:03] Oh dear. [22:37:15] It's possible the symptoms have changed due to the new RL async stuff, maybe? [22:37:20] not sure with DropdownWidget [22:37:31] you should ask MatmaRex [22:37:45] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs UI to v0.12.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230933 [22:38:19] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Update OOjs UI to v0.12.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230933 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:38:25] Krenair, I just tried a couple times and got the blank page once too, in addition to the fused page I originally reported. :/ [22:38:28] Wow. [22:38:31] That was quick. :-) [22:38:37] Thanks, Ed. [22:39:02] Oh, I thought you were complimenting my reproduction :'( [22:39:20] neilpquinn: Sorry. [22:40:07] MatmaRex : could you spare a minute? :) [22:40:20] DropdownWidget doesn't seem to have an $overlay option, for some reason. [22:40:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Loading the read view while VE is loading can create a fused page with both the read and VE versions of the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99139#1529725 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) Just reproduced another couple of times. [22:40:55] oh. interesting. Any idea what else I could look at? [22:41:05] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Don't reset edit summary every time we open the save dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230848 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [22:41:29] let's just say I am trying to replace the replace textInputWidget in findAndReplace with a dropDown widget [22:42:05] But when I click on the dropdown, nothing happens, i.e., I do not see the options unfold [22:42:46] hmm. [22:42:56] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update OOjs UI to v0.12.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230933 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:43:28] Eurgh. [22:43:31] Dratted CI. [22:43:50] ankita-ks, what are the options in your dropdown? [22:44:05] 10VisualEditor: Make Cycle Time Chart for VE Backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106356#1529738 (10JAufrecht) [22:44:23] (03CR) 10Esanders: "recheck" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230933 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:44:36] currently I have used the example provided in the documentation. But eventually, I would want it to be updated based on the suggestions for each error [22:44:58] The dropDown should display all the suggestions for a particular error [22:45:14] edsanders: You need to just re-+2, not recheck. [22:45:37] edsanders: It won't merge even C+2 / V+2 unless you re-trigger gate-and-submit. [22:45:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't reset edit summary every time we open the save dialog [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230848 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [22:46:26] you could use a fixed height select widget [22:46:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: [Regression] Save dialog clears its contents on each open, making progressively writing the summary impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108329#1529741 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Krenair [22:47:29] edsanders : is it any one of these : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OOjs_UI/Widgets/Selects_and_Options ? [22:47:39] ankita-ks: edsanders: eh, yeah, it seems to be clipped to the toolbar dialog's dimensions when you do that. [22:48:02] MatmaRex, yes - it will be overflow hidden [22:48:09] so you get to see like 2px of the dropdown. [22:48:29] ankita-ks, no just a plain SelectWidget [22:49:40] it's documented as abstract because it doesn't have complete styling [22:49:44] Could you give me an example of something it has been used in? [22:49:50] but you can give it a scrollable container [22:51:01] edsanders : https://doc.wikimedia.org/VisualEditor/master/#!/api/OO.ui.SelectWidget [22:51:07] yes [22:51:22] Okay, this looks interesting. [22:51:58] I will try it out. What do you think about ButtonSelectWidget? [22:52:49] Between SelectWidget and ButtonSelectWidget, what would you recommend? [22:53:00] edsanders , MatmaRex ? [22:53:11] 10VisualEditor: Make Cycle Time Chart for VE Backlog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106356#1529775 (10JAufrecht) 5Open>3Resolved [22:53:26] ButtonSelectWidget contains buttons [22:53:39] which you might not want [22:53:49] there's ComboBoxWidget too [22:53:57] edsanders: Re-+2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/230933/ ? [22:54:21] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Update OOjs UI to v0.12.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230933 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:54:22] edsanders : why? [22:54:32] Ta. [22:54:37] because they're buttons? [22:54:50] 10VisualEditor: Create third version of VE burnup report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107482#1529782 (10Deskana) Removed. [22:54:53] MatmaRex : wouldn't that have the same problem as DropDownWidget? [22:54:55] if you have a list of results, you wouldn't usually render those as buttons [22:55:06] ankita-ks: no, ComboBoxWidget supports the $overlay option. [22:55:13] oh okay [22:55:14] DropdownWidget could too, it just needs to be implemented. [22:55:37] can you file a bug about that, actually? it should have it. [22:55:43] (we just never needed it before, i guess) [22:56:01] MatmaRex : I will do that. And also check out ComboBoxWidget [22:56:04] Thanks! [22:56:20] edsanders: hmm, what is the right overlay to use here, actually? this.$overlay (in FindAndReplaceDialog) doesn't give the desired results. $('body') does, but the font size is wrong. [22:56:43] the surface's global overlay? [22:56:52] I think that's what we do in linkInspector et al. [22:57:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs UI to v0.12.3 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230933 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:58:41] eurgh, so the construction would have to be in #getSetupProcess or later [22:59:30] 10VisualEditor: Create third version of VE burnup report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107482#1529788 (10JAufrecht) [22:59:59] hm [23:00:49] i guess we need to generalize the stuff, make a OverlaidElement, with setOverlayElement, all that [23:55:08] oh, I should upload the autodisable thing [23:56:36] 10VisualEditor, 7Research consulting: Investigate the effect of HTTPS-only on edits to the Chinese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108770#1529998 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) 3NEW a:3Neil_P._Quinn_WMF [23:56:58] Krenair: Perhaps. :-) [23:57:24] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: [WIP] autodisable preference [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230949 [23:57:43] 10VisualEditor, 7Research consulting: Investigate the effect of HTTPS-only on edits to the Chinese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108770#1530011 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [23:59:11] 10VisualEditor: Measure and document results of changes to VE team processes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103197#1530015 (10JAufrecht) [23:59:30] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] autodisable preference [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230949 (owner: 10Alex Monk)