[01:25:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] HotCat doesn't load after saving a page in VisualEditor (must refresh/reload first) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103285#1569887 (10kaldari) [03:03:42] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: VisualEditor unable to create moved page / RESTBase doesn't purge renamed page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110152#1569952 (10Krinkle) 3NEW [03:07:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: VisualEditor unable to create moved page / RESTBase doesn't purge renamed page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110152#1569959 (10Krinkle) Also affects File pages. E.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:RCStream_example.png clicking local Create (https://www.media... [03:31:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Possible cases where scrubWikitext wasn't being passed? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110153#1569972 (10Arlolra) 3NEW [03:49:37] (03PS1) 10Krinkle: build: Fix the build by downgrading Karma and dropping Safari 5 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233661 [03:49:39] (03PS1) 10Krinkle: mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Don't make non-VE edit tab collapsible [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233662 [03:50:31] (03PS2) 10Krinkle: Fix flash of wrong Edit tab in non-VE namespaces [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233661 [03:50:32] (03PS2) 10Krinkle: mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Don't make non-VE edit tab collapsible [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233662 [03:52:09] (03CR) 10Krinkle: "Can be reproduced by viewing a MediaWiki or Template namespace page in a wiki/user/browser context that has VE enabled (but not for this n" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233661 (owner: 10Krinkle) [04:10:22] (03PS1) 10Krinkle: Fix flash of bad ve-edit tab on non-wikitext page in enabled namespacea [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233663 [04:55:44] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 04-2] "Actually, no. This isn't just used internally in our page cache." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [04:56:17] (03CR) 10Krinkle: "(Thanks to Roan for finding this use in gadgets, 2015-08-06)" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [04:56:39] (03CR) 10Krinkle: "https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P1922" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [05:53:58] (03PS1) 10Cscott: WIP: Specialized inspector for ISBN magic links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63558) [05:55:43] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: Specialized inspector for ISBN magic links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63558) (owner: 10Cscott) [10:01:48] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: VisualEditor unable to create moved page / RESTBase doesn't purge renamed page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110152#1570558 (10mobrovac) This is a known issue for #RESTBase, cf {T87393} and {T106455} [10:02:10] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: VisualEditor unable to create moved page / RESTBase doesn't purge renamed page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110152#1570561 (10mobrovac) [10:22:17] 10VisualEditor-LanguageTool: have a working online demo of VE/LanguageTool integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105303#1570601 (10Ankita-ks) @dnaber : It is a parsoid server error. I am fixing it. :) Check now and it should be working. [11:19:55] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Automatic Cite generation results in malformed URL after fed valid LeMonde.fr link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101589#1570698 (10Mvolz) [11:20:23] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Automatic Cite generation results in malformed URL after fed valid LeMonde.fr link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101589#1342943 (10Mvolz) [11:20:25] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Insertion of tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100464#1570703 (10Mvolz) [11:20:27] 10Citoid: Improve Zotero Validation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101878#1570700 (10Mvolz) 5Open>3Resolved [11:20:29] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citoid should be validating date fields - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95016#1570704 (10Mvolz) [12:12:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Intermittent VisualEditor load failures - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99026#1570783 (10Aklapper) p:5Normal>3Low [13:27:04] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Fix flash of wrong Edit tab in non-VE namespaces [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233661 (owner: 10Krinkle) [13:29:13] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix flash of wrong Edit tab in non-VE namespaces [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233661 (owner: 10Krinkle) [13:30:01] Krenair: Thx [13:30:13] Krenair: Do you know if TitleInputWidget is used anywhere outside VE? [13:30:35] I can't find use of it. Only in HTMLForm, but due to the 'title' alias (which is hard to grep for) I don't know if any HTMLForms actually use it. [13:31:00] Not that I'm aware of [13:33:26] OK. [13:33:32] Ah, VE does use the core one. That's good [13:33:35] I'll test it there then [13:36:12] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: "To be consistent, we only want to show it in edit mode?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233624 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109646) (owner: 10Esanders) [13:38:46] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Don't make non-VE edit tab collapsible [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233662 (owner: 10Krinkle) [13:39:57] Krinkle: TitleInputWidget is used in hashar's patches for Special:MovePage [13:40:38] Krinkle, Krenair: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185591 [13:41:01] Krinkle, Krenair: sorry, that's MatmaRex's patch, not hashar's. Misremembered. [13:41:08] I was about to say... :) [13:43:27] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: Fix flash of bad ve-edit tab on non-wikitext page in enabled namespacea (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233663 (owner: 10Krinkle) [13:44:35] cscott, so when do you think parsoid's v3 api will be in production and when can we start using it? [13:45:12] (03PS2) 10Krinkle: Fix flash of bad ve-edit tab on non-wikitext page in enabled namespacea [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233663 [13:47:08] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Don't make non-VE edit tab collapsible [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233662 (owner: 10Krinkle) [13:47:09] (really, i had a temporarily malfunction in my real-name-to-irc-nick mapper, which is why I'm a proud member of [[Category:Eponymous Wikipedians]]...) [13:48:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix flash of bad ve-edit tab on non-wikitext page in enabled namespacea [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233663 (owner: 10Krinkle) [14:06:08] 10Citoid: 10.1086/378695 returns citation with same author listed twice - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109431#1571044 (10Mvolz) [14:45:57] (03PS2) 10Cscott: WIP: Specialized inspector for ISBN magic links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63558) [14:46:13] 10Cite: Punctuation and footnotes skip to the next line without a preceding word - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109592#1571147 (10matmarex) [14:46:28] 10Cite, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-25_(1.26wmf20): Misplaced line breaks with references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110057#1571148 (10matmarex) [14:46:38] 10Cite: Punctuation and footnotes skip to the next line without a preceding word - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109592#1553286 (10matmarex) [14:46:39] 10Cite, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-25_(1.26wmf20): Misplaced line breaks with references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110057#1568047 (10matmarex) [15:05:09] (03CR) 10Esanders: "I've left edit requests on all the gadget talk pages. Users who have copied it to their user space were given the warning that it was like" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:07:18] (03CR) 10Esanders: "Also fixed the gadget guide: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_gadgets" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:07:29] edsanders: WFM. Shall we merge after the cut? [15:07:47] edsanders: Also, did you want https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/232877/ to make it? I need to do a pull-through… [15:14:12] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "I updated my VisualEditor signature gadget: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Matma_Rex/visualeditor-signature.js&diff=133" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:14:27] edsanders: There's a timeline here… ;-) [15:14:44] -1 you broke the demo language selector [15:14:57] Meh. I did> [15:15:18] Thought I tested that. [15:15:23] yeah - the demo hides the language code input [15:15:34] but now that's just one field [15:15:38] Oh, is that what it's trying to do? Why? [15:15:40] we should probably add another config [15:15:52] Sure. [15:15:54] because you can't pick an arbitrary language code [15:16:14] Fair. [15:16:20] Well, you can, it just won't work. [15:16:21] "config.showCodeInput Allows user to enter a language code as free text" [15:16:48] Maybe instead we should have an optional isValid() function for it? [15:16:52] Which is more VE-style. [15:17:04] Instead of hiding the input. [15:18:13] you can always validate the output later, but this would be useful and would make it mergeable [15:18:24] Meh. [15:33:20] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: LanguageInspector: Make the widget use one line for language [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/232877 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110127) [15:33:24] edsanders: There. [15:37:21] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Tech/News warning is https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2015/36&diff=13312798&oldid=13291843" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229442 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:39:41] (03PS5) 10Dduvall: WIP: [BrowserTest] Load i18n messages from MediaWiki to browser tests [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/225288 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90577) (owner: 10Vikassy) [15:39:46] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: [BrowserTest] Load i18n messages from MediaWiki to browser tests [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/225288 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90577) (owner: 10Vikassy) [15:44:12] Krinkle: Hmm. Do you have a moment to talk about VE tabs? [15:44:13] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] LanguageInspector: Make the widget use one line for language [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/232877 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110127) (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:44:18] Thanks, Ed. [15:44:21] James_F: Short moment [15:44:54] What's up [15:45:00] Krinkle: The next config we want to move enwiki to (after discussion) is default-on, anon-off. This used to be fine because of the blocking JS, but now it's async won't this flash on every pageview for anons? [15:45:24] Krinkle: If yes, thoughts on how to support this config sanely? [15:45:37] James_F: Define "default-on, anon-off" [15:45:55] Will the MediaWiki runtime for anonymous users (used to populate varnish) know that VE is not enabled? [15:46:02] server-side [15:46:33] It'll be in config. [15:46:37] So it knows [15:46:44] that should be fine [15:46:51] "wmgVisualEditorDisableForAnons" [15:47:00] (03CR) 10Esanders: "There's never been an open button in the context but you can click on the link. This just reverts the previous commit which removed it fro" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233624 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109646) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:47:02] As long as the code in the edit tabs matches the javascript it should be fine [15:47:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: LanguageInspector: Make the widget use one line for language [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/232877 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110127) (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:47:18] The only thing is that during the transition there will be a flash for a tail of unpopular articles for 30 days [15:47:24] So… test for $wgVisualEditorDisableForAnons === 1 && $user->getId() === 0 [15:47:25] ? [15:47:28] But the server-side should produce the correct result presumably [15:47:39] It already does that for user preferences for logged-in users. [15:47:51] And anons are just one large logged-in user from that point of view. [15:47:56] The current test for enablement is: [15:48:10] (not) !$skin->getUser()->getOption( 'visualeditor-enable' ) || $skin->getUser()->getOption( 'visualeditor-betatempdisable' ) [15:48:18] Nothing about the anon thing, I think? [15:48:41] I'll extend that. [15:49:04] James_F: Possibly separate from this but I'd recommend we preprocess some of these more centrally. You don't want the leaf-branch code spread everywhere needing to be aware of three preferences and 2 config vars. [15:49:12] Or whatever we have right now. [15:49:16] Indeed. [15:49:31] Maybe we can skew the preferences based on the config vars [15:49:45] I think we were doing that already at some point. [15:51:18] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Use new internal link builder [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233727 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64816) [15:54:33] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Hooks: Don't show the tab just to hide it if [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233728 [15:55:06] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Hooks: Don't show the tab just to hide it when 'DisableForAnons' is true [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233728 [15:56:17] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (bf76dd7) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233729 [15:56:27] edsanders: ^^^ [15:56:49] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (bf76dd7) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233729 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:56:51] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "Yay for code re-use." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233727 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64816) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:59:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-25_(1.26wmf20): Put the LanguageInspector's language and language code fields be on a single line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110127#1571411 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [16:00:08] 10VisualEditor, 3Discovery-Analysis-Sprint: Get R expert to help tweak report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110080#1571416 (10JAufrecht) [16:00:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (bf76dd7) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233729 (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:01:16] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use new internal link builder [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233727 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64816) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:03:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-25_(1.26wmf20): Without space after links, typing more text corrupts link - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109996#1571427 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:05:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: The first time the (citoid-enabled) Cite dialog is open, don't default to Re-use - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110134#1571436 (10Esanders) Remembering the last tab used was requested here T103582. We should think carefully about the best experience fo... [16:07:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Technical-Debt: VisualEditor: Create infrastructure for creating annotations/nodes from the UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64816#1571438 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:18:14] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Use mw.Title to localise file: prefix on new images [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233736 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110104) [16:19:29] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Use mw.Title to localise file: prefix on new images [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233736 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110104) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:20:10] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] "Fine, although [[]] and {{}} aren't in parentheses" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233201 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:22:03] 10VisualEditor: Highlights not hidden when mouse out on gallery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110195#1571485 (10Esanders) 3NEW a:3Esanders [16:22:14] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Fix focusable mouseout [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/232773 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110195) [16:23:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use mw.Title to localise file: prefix on new images [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233736 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110104) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:23:17] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix pattern for matching wikitext headings [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233201 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:24:13] (03PS1) 10Divec: WIP POC: Fix wrapping glich with temporary block style [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233740 [16:25:04] (03CR) 10Divec: "Please, convince me there's a better way!" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233740 (owner: 10Divec) [16:25:07] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] "missed a bit of dead code" (031 comment) [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233406 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109988) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [16:27:22] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP POC: Fix wrapping glich with temporary block style [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233740 (owner: 10Divec) [17:04:02] James_F, standup? [17:05:27] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "Is there a reason this is still WIP? Didn't we finish this during wikimania?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/225288 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90577) (owner: 10Vikassy) [17:14:38] 10TemplateData: When a parameter is present but empty, use the "example" templatedata field instead of "autovalue" field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110207#1572127 (10Trizek-WMF) 3NEW [17:23:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Technical-Debt: VisualEditor: Create infrastructure for creating annotations/nodes from the UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64816#1572289 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:27:25] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: bin/listRecentCommits.sh: Don't try to loop over OOUI commits [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233755 [17:32:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 7I18n, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-25_(1.26wmf20): Use the local word for "File:" instead of using the English name - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110104#1572403 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:37:34] 10TemplateData: When a parameter is present but empty, use the "example" templatedata field instead of "default" field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110207#1572427 (10NicoV) [17:39:11] 10TemplateData: When a parameter is present but empty, use the "example" templatedata field instead of "default" field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110207#1572127 (10NicoV) [17:51:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Possible cases where scrubWikitext wasn't being passed? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110153#1572489 (10GWicke) > But that can't happen, right? If it happened, then I'd expect it to happen consistently. [17:53:30] 10VisualEditor, 6WMF-Design-Research, 7Epic: Improve and streamline VisualEditor's user education features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101481#1572496 (10harej-NIOSH) As part of my work with the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (part of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Pr... [17:53:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: When a parameter is present but empty, use the "example" templatedata field instead of "default" field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110207#1572504 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [17:53:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: When a parameter is present but empty, use the "example" templatedata field instead of "default" field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110207#1572127 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:31:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] HotCat doesn't load after saving a page in VisualEditor (must refresh/reload first) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103285#1572658 (10kaldari) From the Community Tech sprint kick-off meeting: Support: Medium/Low (compared to other AOI task... [18:32:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Community-Tech: [AOI] HotCat doesn't load after saving a page in VisualEditor (must refresh/reload first) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103285#1572659 (10kaldari) p:5Normal>3Low [18:34:07] Krinkle_, James_F: There wouldn't be a FOUC for anons, would there? Right now, anons don't get VE. After your deployment, anons don't get VE. Nothing changes except the method by which we come to the conclusion that anons don't get VE [18:34:22] When we switch anons from not getting VE to getting VE, that's when FOUCs will start occurring [18:59:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5Patch-For-Review: Highlights not hidden when mouse out on gallery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110195#1572717 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [18:59:55] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: VisualEditor unable to create moved page / RESTBase doesn't purge renamed page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110152#1572724 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [19:01:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-25_(1.26wmf20), 7user-notice: Autolink typed ISBN/PMID/RFCs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109498#1572729 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:02:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, and 3 others: Increase width of inspectors on desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101290#1572730 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:02:13] 10VisualEditor, 6Discovery, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Search, and 4 others: Prefix search API doesn't return "index" field when "redirects" is enabled. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92796#1572731 (10Deskana) 5Open>3Resolved [19:03:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Possible cases where scrubWikitext wasn't being passed? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110153#1572735 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [19:03:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: The first time the (citoid-enabled) Cite dialog is open, don't default to Re-use - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110134#1572741 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF This is per {T103582}. [19:05:27] 10VisualEditor, 6Discovery, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Search, and 4 others: Prefix search API doesn't return "index" field when "redirects" is enabled. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92796#1572772 (10Deskana) This needs documentation for how API consumers can update their clients. This is tracked... [19:05:42] 10VisualEditor: VE adding between tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109558#1572775 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF This should now be fixed. Closing in anticipation. [19:06:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Cursor appears over the drop down menu for text styling in Mobile VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109529#1572778 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:06:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: "Value null is the wrong type for property "action.saveIntent.timing" (integer expected) " appears upon opening the Save dialog in mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109525#1572783 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:07:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: When using the mobile site with desktop browsers, consider providing a visible or larger area for CE when editing an empty page/creating a new page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109508#1572786 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:08:38] 10VisualEditor: The Escape key should close VisualEditor context menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108872#1572791 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:08:59] 10VisualEditor: The Escape key should close VisualEditor context menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108872#1532712 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined We never do not show the context menu for the current cursor position if the surface is active. [19:10:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 7Design: Provide a 'delete' button on focusable nodes in desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99862#1572800 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:10:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 7Design: Provide a 'delete' button on focusable nodes in desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99862#1300571 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:10:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design: Trigger spam blacklist upon opening a page in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99803#1572805 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:11:03] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Citoid should not add website name (punknews.org) as a first name - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99091#1572809 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:12:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Complex transclusion won't let you insert if a placeholder template-inserter is present (as well as some valid content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98778#1572816 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:13:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10VisualEditor-Tables: VisualEditor: Editing tables with "pop-up" elements breaks table formatting in some cases (like with cell templates) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98696#1572830 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved p:5Triage>3Normal a:3... [19:14:17] 10VisualEditor: Cannot enter more than one line in "preformatted" block - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98092#1572839 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:14:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Adding newlines at start/end of preformatted text is broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60773#1572840 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:15:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: When adding unknown template, impossible to add parameter '2', if parameter '2=' has been added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98065#1572842 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:15:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Documentation, 7Epic: Update VisualEditor's docs on errors/troubleshooting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97946#1572844 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:16:22] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Regression: [Regression] Subpage breadcrumbs not shown after saving the page with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97700#1572848 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:16:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Regression: [Regression] Subpage breadcrumbs not shown after saving the page with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97700#1250379 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:18:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Faulty syntax langlinks meant to be interwikis can't be fixed as they turn into meta items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97547#1572856 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Lowest [19:18:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Pasting text in Chrome causes the page to scroll down, until the cursor is on the bottom line of the screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97359#1572862 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:19:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste: Pasting text in Chrome causes the page to scroll down, until the cursor is on the bottom line of the screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97359#1240219 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:19:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-Performance, and 2 others: Pasting content results in scroll flickering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89623#1572865 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:20:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Calculated highlights for focusable nodes sometimes extend outside the bounds of the node (CSS positioning with overflow: hidden) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96667#1572868 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:21:08] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: editing Hebrew Wikipedia's "two columns" template in VisualEditor shows the first parameter's value as a parameter name - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96521#1572871 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:21:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: editing Hebrew Wikipedia's "two columns" template in VisualEditor shows the first parameter's value as a parameter name - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96521#1218861 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Is this a Parsoid issue, presumably? [19:21:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: editing Hebrew Wikipedia's "two columns" template in VisualEditor shows the first parameter's value as a parameter name - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96521#1572876 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:21:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Initialisation, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Error during editor initialization leaves it in half-loaded unrecoverable state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96437#1572882 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High a:3Krenair [19:24:23] hallo [19:24:34] James_F: I don't understand the last comment at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108872 at all. [19:24:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel: "offset was inside an ignoreChildren node" appears while trying to extend the selection over a reflist which has a slug before it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96109#1572890 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved p:5Triage>3Normal a:3Esanders [19:25:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel: "offset was inside an ignoreChildren node" appears while trying to extend the selection over a reflist which has a slug before it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96109#1208425 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:25:45] 10VisualEditor: Almost impossible to remove bulleted list without highlighting it with cursor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95991#1572903 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low Shift-Tab also works… [19:27:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: If an external link contains a period, VisualEditor displays two links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95846#1572911 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved p:5Triage>3Normal a:3Esanders [19:27:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: If an external link contains a period, VisualEditor displays two links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95846#1201635 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Now seemingly fixed. [19:28:27] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Make adding page numbers to {{cite book}} more efficient - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96000#1572920 (10Jdforrester-WMF) > Second-favorite process (necessary for ISBNs or other URLs): You know it's {{cite book}}, so request a page number when I submit it. So… add "page" to the... [19:28:32] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Make adding page numbers to {{cite book}} more efficient - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96000#1572921 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled [19:29:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Parsoid: Reference list is shown on top of page after editing infobox with references inside - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95851#1572922 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:30:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Parsoid: Reference list is shown on top of page after editing infobox with references inside - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95851#1201694 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This is caused because Parsoid emits a references list for anything they parse which has a refe... [19:31:14] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10Parsoid: Reference list is shown on top of page after editing infobox with references inside - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95851#1572926 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled [19:33:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: editing Hebrew Wikipedia's "two columns" template in VisualEditor shows the first parameter's value as a parameter name - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96521#1572932 (10Arlolra) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Arlolra > Is this a Parsoid issue, pre... [19:33:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Making an image Frameless with out any wrap option deletes the content of the caption - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68808#1572935 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Normal>3Low [19:34:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables, 10Parsoid: Reference inside template call inside table cell not visible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107652#1572948 (10ssastry) 5Open>3Resolved [19:40:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Possible cases where scrubWikitext wasn't being passed? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110153#1572967 (10ssastry) [19:47:29] aharoni: There is no state ever in which VisualEditor is active and the cursor is at a position but we don't show the context. It's a fundamental part of the design. [19:47:45] RoanKattouw_away: Yeah, anons still won't get VE, but James is concerned because we're changing the default for logged in users. [19:48:09] RoanKattouw_away: And his concerns are justified because our current code checks only the two user preferences, not the DisableAnons wg conf. [19:48:19] RoanKattouw_away: The js code does, but the server-side code does not I think. [19:48:39] I already found 4 obvious issues in teh server-side code yesterday (patches in gerrit now, most or all merged). [19:48:53] There are at least half a dozen more inconsistencies between them. [19:49:17] James_F: I don't understand how is it related to the problem that I am describing. A context bubble is shown. I want to close it. My natural inclination is to press Escape. Instead of closing the context, it closes the whole editor. [19:50:13] aharoni: You want to close it. I'm saying the answer is "no, you cannot close it". [19:51:39] James_F: RoanKattouw_away: (So yes, if we were to flip the default preference to on and set anon=false, I suspect tabs would wrongly start rendering for anons, and flash until JS removes them). The code James theorised a few hours ago look right, we'll need something like that. We can use init init js as inspiration. [19:52:01] Kk. [19:52:31] aharoni: I am working on a patch for this exact problem [19:52:35] Because someone reported it against Flow [19:52:52] I got as far as writing the patch, but instead of testing it I went to lunch [19:52:58] * RoanKattouw tests [19:57:22] aharoni: Actually, sorry, I misunderstood. I'm fixing a different Escape-related issue [19:57:39] James's response is right. Contexts are not closeable [20:11:44] (03CR) 10Cscott: "Before I go further with this -- am I on the right track?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/63558) (owner: 10Cscott) [20:11:53] RoanKattouw, Krinkle, James_F, edsanders: ^ (ISBN inspector) [20:12:34] cscott: You're certainly not tagging it against the right task. :-) [20:12:52] Oh, I see, you're missing the 'T'. [20:15:13] cscott, looks about right to me [20:15:44] (03PS3) 10Cscott: WIP: Specialized inspector for ISBN magic links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63558) [20:15:50] James_F: sorry, fixed it. [20:16:14] the UX is a little weird, since backspacing erases the entire magic link. you have to go into the link inspector to make edits. [20:16:43] it would be a little nicer to let you make edits in place some how, but not quite sure how to make that work. [20:17:57] also, since i added a new node type for magic links, if you create one "manually" (say, by creating a link to Special:Booksources/xyz with link text ISBN xyz) it doesn't get the magic link UI. [20:18:17] maybe i could fix that by a little bit more fooling around with the link inspector. [20:19:26] (03CR) 10Jforrester: WIP: Specialized inspector for ISBN magic links (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63558) (owner: 10Cscott) [20:19:50] cscott: I think that's OK. [20:20:02] cscott: There's such a thing as taking it too far. [20:20:48] yeah, just checking to make sure that none of you VE gurus see the WIP patch and say "oh, but if you used the FooBar class instead of making a new node type, then magical unicorns would materialize" [20:21:49] :-) [20:25:39] I hope no unicorns materialize near your ISBN links, that sounds bad [20:26:28] RoanKattouw: Not if they're magical. [20:26:35] right :) [20:29:21] 10VisualEditor: Create an article/essay version of the charts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110081#1573105 (10JAufrecht) p:5Normal>3Low [20:29:53] 10VisualEditor, 10Security-Reviews: Add edges to Phabricator task data dump transaction history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104920#1573106 (10JAufrecht) a:5csteipp>3chasemp [20:34:20] cscott, making it editable is a good enough first step [20:34:41] cscott, I assume you are aware of the roundtrip bug with these autolinks [20:35:23] specifically that typing "ISBN123" or "http://google.com" into VE as plain text doesn't get nowiki'd, so they become links when you next edit the page. [20:37:42] edsanders: that bug has been fixed in parsoid. within the last week or so. [20:37:56] ah, they get nowiki'd now? [20:37:59] yes. [20:38:12] nice [20:38:17] that's why i pitched in to help on the VE side -- we started getting lots of "bug" reports once we fixed that. [20:38:29] and we could either re-break it in parsoid, or fix it on the VE side. [20:38:35] being a masochist, i chose the latter. [20:39:31] well be careful, as they say: if the wind changes your face will stick like that [20:39:44] (that means we'll steal you for the VE team) [20:39:46] (the first set of fixes landed about two weeks ago, shortly before i started hacking on autolink in VE. but it turned out that my first nowiki fix was incomplete, and so we were still neglecting to add lots of nowikis. the actual complete fix is the one that went out late last week.) [20:40:11] i have to make flow speak the parsoid v3 protocol soon. [20:40:17] i'm more scared of dabbling in that brook. [20:41:41] what's the v3 protocol? [20:43:51] it's just a slight tweak to parsoid's v2 protocol to make it more like the RESTBase API. that means we can share more code and not have silly URL translation bits and bobs hanging out everywhere. [20:55:28] James_F, RoanKattouw - Can I somehow express my disagreement with the notion that an element that obscures a part of the text is not closeable? Is it really intentional? Am I the only one complaining about it? [20:55:47] You can, it is, you are. [20:55:49] It is closeable in the sense that you can move your cursor somewhere else [20:56:05] It follows your cursor (or disappears based on the context of where your cursor is) [21:07:13] (03PS3) 10Alex Monk: Move MWReferenceSourceSelectWidget into Citoid [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233406 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109988) [21:07:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move MWReferenceSourceSelectWidget into Citoid [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233406 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109988) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [21:10:38] (03PS4) 10Alex Monk: Move MWReferenceSourceSelectWidget into Citoid [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233406 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109988) [21:21:35] [13grunt-banana-checker] 15jdforrester 04force-pushed 06optout from 140be798c to 14f487f68: 02https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/commits/optout [21:21:35] 13grunt-banana-checker/06optout 147d4dbe4 15James D. Forrester: Fail if the target directory doesn't exist Fixes #17 [21:21:35] 13grunt-banana-checker/06optout 14f487f68 15James D. Forrester: Allow individual checks to be disabled in config... [21:21:54] [13grunt-banana-checker] 15Krinkle 04force-pushed 06optout from 14f487f68 to 14c43d701: 02https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/commits/optout [21:21:54] 13grunt-banana-checker/06optout 14d61b310 15James D. Forrester: Fail if the target directory doesn't exist Fixes #17 [21:21:54] 13grunt-banana-checker/06optout 14c43d701 15James D. Forrester: Allow individual checks to be disabled in config [21:29:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Regression: [Regression] Subpage breadcrumbs not shown after saving the page with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97700#1573331 (10Krenair) When you save the API calls $this->getOutput()->getSubtitle() to get the new text for that, but it's returni... [21:30:23] [13grunt-banana-checker] 15Krinkle created 06tmp (+2 new commits): 02https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/compare/7d4dbe451161^...f487f683c7ef [21:30:23] 13grunt-banana-checker/06tmp 147d4dbe4 15James D. Forrester: Fail if the target directory doesn't exist Fixes #17 [21:30:23] 13grunt-banana-checker/06tmp 14f487f68 15James D. Forrester: Allow individual checks to be disabled in config... [21:30:48] [13grunt-banana-checker] 15Krinkle 04deleted 06tmp at 14f487f68: 02https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/commit/f487f68 [21:34:29] wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker#79 (optout - f487f68 : James D. Forrester): The build has errored. [21:34:29] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/compare/0be798cf82a0...f487f683c7ef [21:34:29] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/builds/77228800 [21:35:39] wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker#80 (optout - c43d701 : James D. Forrester): The build has errored. [21:35:39] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/compare/f487f683c7ef...c43d70112e9f [21:35:39] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/builds/77228858 [21:37:19] wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker#83 (optout - f487f68 : James D. Forrester): The build has errored. [21:37:19] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/compare/c43d70112e9f...f487f683c7ef [21:37:19] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/builds/77230318 [21:38:21] wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker#84 (master - 21619cc : Timo Tijhof): The build passed. [21:38:21] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/compare/ed93f3b54e9c...21619cc0bea6 [21:38:21] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/builds/77230519 [21:38:29] wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker#85 (translationchecking - c2dadaf : James D. Forrester): The build passed. [21:38:29] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/compare/491976d49424...c2dadaf58857 [21:38:29] Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/grunt-banana-checker/builds/77230893 [21:43:48] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs to v1.1.9 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233862 [21:54:57] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Hooks: Don't show the tab just to hide it when 'DisableForAnons' is true [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233728 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:58:18] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hooks: Don't show the tab just to hide it when 'DisableForAnons' is true [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233728 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:58:28] Thanks, Krenair. [21:58:58] I did a lot of poking around the code and diffs for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97700 [21:59:09] didn't find anything particularly useful though :( [22:00:00] * James_F nods. [22:00:21] Did someone "fix" Vector or something? [22:05:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Initialisation, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Error during editor initialization leaves it in half-loaded unrecoverable state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96437#1573505 (10Krenair) I made Target's loadSuccess function call loadFail and return (like it does for "Revision IDs... [22:40:01] (03CR) 10Esanders: WIP: Specialized inspector for ISBN magic links (031 comment) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/233669 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63558) (owner: 10Cscott) [23:28:33] 10VisualEditor: '' is frequently used unnecessarily in VisualEditor and put in - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106641#1573694 (10CR) Perfect :) I would say yes, in most of the cases modern neapolitan in literature suggests space between apostrophes... and/or the use of the typographic apostrophe (... [23:30:31] 10VisualEditor: Create VE Product Burnup chart - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102272#1573700 (10chasemp) [23:30:33] 10VisualEditor, 10Security-Reviews: Add edges to Phabricator task data dump transaction history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104920#1573698 (10chasemp) 5Open>3Resolved should be in the next days copy