[00:06:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: "Value null is the wrong type for property "action.saveIntent.timing" (integer expected) " appears upon opening the Save dialog in mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109525#1629113 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:06:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Editing-Analysis, 10MobileFrontend, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): Instrument MobileFrontend to use version 13457736 of the Edit schema instead of the MobileWebEditing schema - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110272#1629110 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3... [00:07:18] Krenair: Can we mark https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109525 as fixed too? [00:07:37] no [00:07:47] VE still tries to send some events for all targets [00:10:11] OK. [03:34:00] 10Citoid: Citoid identifies non-DOI URLs as DOIs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109536#1629433 (10Jonesey95) I see that this patch has been committed. I'm looking forward to this fix being put in production, as I am fixing a few of these errors daily at en.wp. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:... [10:38:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: [Regression wmf??] Auto-switching of external links typed into the link inspector no longer working - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112158#1629945 (10Elitre) Reported since June [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55973#1373114 | AFAIK ]]. Same thing for... [11:43:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 7Design: Keyboard shortcuts dialog should be vertically scrollable, not horizontally scrollable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92723#1630082 (10Esanders) [11:43:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Keyboard shortcuts dialog should do vertical not horizontal overflow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179#1630083 (10Esanders) [11:44:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Keyboard shortcuts dialog too small for its contents - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179#1630085 (10Esanders) [11:44:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Layout breaks in keyboard shortcuts dialog if translated messages occupy slightly more space - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75552#1630086 (10Esanders) [11:44:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: Keyboard shortcuts dialog too small for its contents - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179#838360 (10Esanders) [11:47:02] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Use a 'larger' dialog and 3 columns for keyboard shortcuts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237630 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179) [11:47:06] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove command help height hack [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237631 [13:10:21] 10Citoid: Add support for ContentMine's thresher - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112260#1630328 (10Mvolz) 3NEW [13:17:05] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Wrap interal drop's insertContent in a try/catch [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237644 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092) [13:19:12] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Wrap interal drop's insertContent in a try/catch [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237644 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:51:04] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Use a 'larger' dialog and 3 columns for keyboard shortcuts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237630 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:54:27] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use a 'larger' dialog and 3 columns for keyboard shortcuts [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237630 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:59:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5Patch-For-Review: Listed items get deleted upon drag-dropping them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092#1630622 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:3Esanders [15:10:09] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: ve.ce.Surface: Wrap internal drop's insertContent in a try/catch [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237644 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:10:23] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] ve.ce.Surface: Wrap internal drop's insertContent in a try/catch [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237644 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:14:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ve.ce.Surface: Wrap internal drop's insertContent in a try/catch [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237644 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:17:27] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (e33a584) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237663 [15:17:38] Krenair: Two questions – can I grab a +2 on ^^^ and what's the plan for MF schema un-reverting? [15:46:52] ehm [15:46:53] undefined is not a function (evaluating 'performance.mark( 'mwLoadEnd' )') [15:47:08] en.wp with debug=true [15:47:14] on an edit page. [15:55:04] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (e33a584) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237663 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:57:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (e33a584) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237663 (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:20:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): Keyboard shortcuts dialog too small for its contents - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78179#1630956 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Esanders [16:20:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): Listed items get deleted upon drag-dropping them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96092#1630959 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [16:29:54] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1631006 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW [17:02:29] Elitre: Can you test something for me? [17:02:43] I'm gettng parsoid-400-error messages [17:03:36] Use this link: https://war.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansellia_annulata&veaction=edit and try to add Owlfly (Mansellia annulata) (11627526944).jpg under the "image" parameter in the infobox, then try to save the page [17:03:47] I'm getting parsoidserver-http: HTTP 400 [17:16:33] hey Josve05a [17:16:40] we know [17:16:41] hi :) [17:16:44] Ok :/ [17:16:48] hi :) [17:17:01] I don't have a task handy, but we're aware. [17:17:15] thanks so much for reporting here, of course! [17:18:07] So. Annoying. And the error message(s) should be handled with more grace towards users IMO. Like "We're sorry we could not complete your request due to the following error..." RIght now all you get is a pink box with cryptic text (which *I* and you can understand) but not al users... [17:18:26] all* even [17:18:56] agree. I wonder if there's a task about that? :) [17:20:30] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286 is the task for the Parsoid error BTW. [17:20:34] 10VisualEditor, 6WMF-Design-Research: Create test plan for VE on mobile evaluation for new users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88756#1631354 (10ggellerman) a:3aripstra [17:22:08] subbu, ^^^ :) [17:23:28] ok, confirmed on that page that Josve05a .. consistently reproducible. [17:25:34] gwicke, http 400 => bad client request? [17:25:53] "Error loading data from server: 400." when I hit 'review your changes' in the save dialog [17:27:11] yes, 400 is 'bad request' [17:27:48] I am able to preview an edit on that page, fwiw [17:28:21] gwicke, do the edit that Josve05a mentions above .. adding the specific image in the infobox [17:28:22] sorry, the other page linked from the report [17:28:27] not Mansellia [17:28:40] right, that one is reproducible consistently. [17:28:58] 10Citoid: Extended deepEqual in assert.js doesn't require that strings match; some current tests fail as a result - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112305#1631421 (10Mvolz) 3NEW a:3mobrovac [17:30:27] no match for Mansellia in the RB logs [17:32:00] edsanders, Krenair anything go out y'day that might lead to a malformed req. going out? assuming that is what it is? [17:32:47] nothing in parsoid logs either. so it means it isn't even hitting our servers? [17:33:12] 10Citoid: Extended deepEqual in assert.js doesn't require that strings match; some current tests fail as a result - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112305#1631455 (10Mvolz) Should note that we probably didn't notice because some of the other functions (like checkCitation) that do string equality actually use... [17:33:28] That page works for me [17:33:39] oh, right, when you edit it like that [17:34:36] (is there a task I can subscribe too?) [17:34:44] mo [17:34:45] no* [17:34:59] Krenair, Josve05a, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286 [17:35:05] ty [17:36:22] oh, ok [17:39:17] 400 Bad Request [17:39:18] The server cannot or will not process the request due to something that is perceived to be a client error (e.g., malformed request syntax, invalid request message framing, or deceptive request routing). [17:39:18] 10VisualEditor, 6Design Research Backlog, 7Epic: Improve and streamline VisualEditor's user education features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101481#1631475 (10aripstra) [17:39:31] subbu, I can't think of anything that would do this. [17:40:34] with the layers between VE and Parsoid, I don't know where exactly that http 400 is coming from .. VRS? some other layer above? [17:41:07] we don't have log entries in restbase or kibana for these requests. [17:42:22] Krenair, are there vrs error logs somewhere that you can look at? [17:42:24] the VRS changes were in wmf21 [17:42:50] don't think so [17:43:40] This error is not necessarily coming from parsoid/restbase. [17:46:01] right. [17:46:20] that is what we need to figure out where it is coming from .. [17:52:26] Krenair, https://war.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansellia_annulata&veaction=edit on that page, I can try any trivial edit and it doesn't go through now. http 400 always. [17:52:35] can you confirm or is this just me? [17:54:31] confirmed, no edits work there [17:55:26] i am grepping parsoid logs on all wtp* for that title to see if any reqs. were logged there [17:56:12] was able to add the image to all the othe rlangs. of that subject [17:56:15] * Josve05a * [17:56:38] I can do other edits on that wiki, but not that page [17:57:39] Krenair, same here. [17:58:46] Well, that is odd... [17:59:51] to be continued .. meeting time. [18:10:52] I can't review changes there either [18:15:30] 10Citoid: Extended deepEqual in assert.js doesn't require that strings match; some current tests fail as a result - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112305#1631662 (10mobrovac) If exact string equality is sought, then something like ``` assert.ok(expected === result); ``` Should be used in test case directly... [18:26:14] 10VisualEditor, 6Analytics-Backlog, 10Analytics-Dashiki, 6Editing-Analysis, 5Patch-For-Review: Improve the edit analysis dashboard {lion} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104261#1631726 (10Milimetric) These last two improvements by Baha have been deployed. [18:26:56] 10VisualEditor, 6Analytics-Backlog, 10Analytics-Dashiki, 6Editing-Analysis, 5Patch-For-Review: Improve the edit analysis dashboard {lion} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104261#1631735 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Nice. [18:27:05] 10VisualEditor, 6Analytics-Backlog, 10Analytics-Dashiki, 6Editing-Analysis, 5Patch-For-Review: Improve the edit analysis dashboard {lion} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104261#1631736 (10Milimetric) [18:29:25] 10VisualEditor, 6Analytics-Backlog, 10Analytics-Dashiki, 6Editing-Analysis, 5Patch-For-Review: Improve the edit analysis dashboard {lion} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104261#1631748 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:33:05] 10VisualEditor, 6Analytics-Backlog, 10Analytics-Dashiki, 6Editing-Analysis, 5Patch-For-Review: Improve the edit analysis dashboard {lion} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104261#1631752 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:34:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1631765 (10ssastry) So, Josve05a reported on #mediawiki-visualeditor that https://war.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansellia_annulata&veaction=edit is one of the failing pages. @krenair and I co... [18:36:07] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1631769 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:36:17] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1631006 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Issue in RESTBase then? [18:45:04] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Remove command help height hack [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237631 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:48:20] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove command help height hack [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237631 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:58:53] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison, 7Documentation: Check and update VE Documentation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96237#1631867 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [18:58:55] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaison: Update Help:VisualEditor/User_guide#Editing_references at mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94938#1631864 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved In re Elitre's comment above: The main page is focusing on the Basic and Re-use items, with a side... [19:06:22] subbu, Krenair, gwicke: Same with https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acraephia_perspicillata?veaction=edit and File:Tree Hopper (Acraephia perspicillata) (8571597807).jpg [19:06:55] and https://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acraephia_perspicillata?veaction=edit [19:07:31] Perhaps it's due to the references? I see when i've opened the template-dialog, the reflist is on top of the article-page and looks all broken [19:15:26] Josve05a, and i can now edit https://war.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansellia_annulata&veaction=edit properly [19:15:57] thus just becomes weirder and weirder [19:15:59] mysterious "transient" error. [19:17:33] So my existing tab still fails to get a diff on this page [19:17:37] new tab is fine [19:18:05] oh. interesting. [19:18:18] i unfortunately closed that old tab .. so i cannot verify. [19:19:48] Would it be helpful if I pasted the HTML that was being sent by the old tab? [19:21:07] subbu, ^ [19:21:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Community-Tech, 3Community-Tech-Sprint: [AOI] HotCat doesn't load after saving a page in VisualEditor (must refresh/reload first) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103285#1631947 (10kaldari) [19:24:24] Krenair, can you dump the from the html of both of those tabs? [19:25:44] the current theory is that the is missing ... [19:25:53] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2015 [19:25:58] tid is missing indeed [19:27:00] gwicke, arlolra ^ [19:27:35] Krenair, and it is present in the tab where it completes successfully? [19:28:28] Soo, odd question. [19:29:27] no [19:29:28] I've got some CSS that made ol's bold in my Common.css. It broke in VE when I upgraded from 1.23 to 1.25 [19:29:39] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4cc080a07b205017fe4d [19:30:19] Unfortunately someone who *used* to be on my team wrote it. So I don't really know how it works. Can anyone help me out a bit with it? Maybe fix it up so it works agian? [19:30:20] *again [19:42:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1632062 (10GWicke) It turns out that this is triggered by really old HTML revisions (rendered and stored in early March) not having a mw:TimeUuid meta tag in the head. A newly added s... [19:48:59] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Tags: Switch 'VisualEditor' out for 'the visual editor' as elsewhere [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237736 [20:24:07] James_F, do you know why I can't use `veaction=edit` on Meta discussion pages? For example, https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research_talk:Active_editor_spike_2015_%28July_update%29&veaction=edit [20:42:29] AFAIK, you can't use that trick if VE is not enabled on a given namespace. [20:43:03] Yes, VE will only open in enabled namespaces. [20:43:13] And since you're asking about talk pages... :) [20:46:26] ZOMG I wasn't wrong for once. the world's gonna end in five mins or so. [20:54:33] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1632429 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Thanks! [20:55:58] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering: In current VRS deployment scenarios, error logging should not assume Parsoid is the source of all errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112330#1632433 (10ssastry) 3NEW [20:56:50] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering: In current VRS deployment scenarios, error logging should not assume Parsoid is the source of all errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112330#1632446 (10ssastry) [21:02:22] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering: In current VRS deployment scenarios, error logging should not assume Parsoid is the source of all errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112330#1632474 (10ssastry) For example, for T112286, VRS/VE-extension/VE should have rec... [21:02:37] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 6Language-Engineering, and 2 others: In current VRS deployment scenarios, error logging should not assume Parsoid is the source of all errors. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112330#1632477 (10ssastry) [21:09:57] 10WikiEditor: Add ability for sysadmins to fully disable WikiEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112331#1632496 (10Krenair) [21:13:07] 10WikiEditor: Add ability for sysadmins to fully disable WikiEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112331#1632539 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3declined a:3Aklapper Closing as declined; see T91872#1114447 which says there are no plans to move WikiEditor into core. [21:13:55] 10WikiEditor: Add ability for sysadmins to fully disable WikiEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112331#1632550 (10Aklapper) 5declined>3Open a:5Aklapper>3None [21:14:13] 10WikiEditor: Add ability for sysadmins to fully disable WikiEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112331#1632448 (10Aklapper) (Mid-air editing conflict: Task summary changed in meantime, hence reopened) [22:05:53] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Change error logging to not assume all VRS errors are Parsoid errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112339#1632752 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW a:3Krenair [22:13:47] (03CR) 10Ricordisamoa: [C: 04-1] "'VisualEditor' is its proper name. There will likely be other visual editors in the future." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237736 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:42:02] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "> 'VisualEditor' is its proper name. There will likely be other visual editors in the future." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/237736 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:50:31] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Change VisualEditor's error logging to not assume all VRS errors are Parsoid errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112339#1632900 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:04:17] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all logged-in users of the English Wikipedia, exempting some users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112348#1632930 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW a:3Jdforrester-WMF [23:04:24] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all logged-in users of the English Wikipedia, exempting some users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112348#1632939 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:04:26] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests, 7notice, 7user-notice: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all logged-out users of the English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90663#1632938 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:04:34] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all logged-in users of the English Wikipedia, exempting some users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112348#1632930 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:04:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all users of the English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90662#1632940 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:04:50] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all logged-in users of the English Wikipedia, exempting some users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112348#1632930 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:05:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Re-enable VisualEditor by default for all logged-in users of the English Wikipedia, exempting some users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112348#1632944 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [23:05:31] Krenair: Ping re. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108620 :-) [23:06:00] Hasn't been touched since I've been dealing with MF [23:07:47] Boo. :-( [23:08:15] Did you find that conditional loading of schema.Edit? Does it even exist, or was I being optimistic? [23:08:33] yeah [23:08:35] well [23:08:55] what it actually does it check to see if schema.Edit is loaded, and if so allows you to log an event, otherwise just returns [23:09:14] relying on WikimediaEvents to load it [23:09:35] That works. [23:14:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MobileFrontend: MobileFrontend VisualEditor edit conflict detection does not work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111894#1619241 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:14:10] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Reports of 400 and 500 errors with Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112286#1632974 (10GWicke) I have started a script to delete all renders from before April 1st, which is when the change to insert the mw:TimeUuid meta tag was deployed. [23:14:18] 10VisualEditor: Create index pages for Phlogiston reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112177#1628086 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:16:09] 10VisualEditor: Disable some parts of the editing interface from IPs and newbies because we don't trust them to use them correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110329#1632983 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5stalled>3Open [23:22:40] 10VisualEditor: Disable some parts of the editing interface from IPs and newbies because we don't trust them to use them correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110329#1632989 (10Jdforrester-WMF) I've re-titled the task, based on your comment? Is this correct? If so, I would decline it. There are no featu... [23:22:43] 10VisualEditor: Disable some parts of the editing interface from IPs and newbies because we don't trust them to use them correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110329#1632990 (10Vituzzu) Apologies but I missed commenting this further. As Supernino says those additions comes from unexperienced users and t... [23:30:28] James_F, yeah. Relying on WikimediaEvents (or equivalent) to load it is a bit suboptimal, but I can live with it [23:31:05] Kk. [23:31:14] Krenair: And /then/ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108620 ? :-) [23:32:24] sure [23:32:42] Cool. [23:32:48] * James_F cracks the whip. :-) [23:42:16] 10VisualEditor: Create index pages for Phlogiston reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112177#1633027 (10JAufrecht) 5Open>3Resolved [23:48:15] 10VisualEditor, 5WMF-deploy-2015-09-15_(1.26wmf23): Create index pages for Phlogiston reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112177#1633039 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:51:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests, 7Community-consensus-needed: Enable the visual editor in the Wikipedia namespace on the English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100067#1633043 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5stalled>3declined [23:58:20] James_F, except apparently while I've not been looking at it, some other code has sneakily decided it needs to add height:0px;