[01:26:57] 10Cite, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4), 7user-notice: The error normally shown if a named is defined multiple times doesn't appear if the page is missing tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114898#1733691 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [01:28:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): [Regression pre-wmf4] Make getNodeAndOffset safe with both IMEs and slugless zero-DM-length branch nodes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115811#1733694 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3R... [01:36:59] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] User education popup for citations [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246428 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108620) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [01:37:29] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: User education popup for citations [extensions/Citoid] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246428 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108620) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [01:40:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Graph-VisualEditor: [Regression?] A on a particular page can't be edited - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115767#1733704 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [01:41:22] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7WorkType-Maintenance: Delete button on VE link inspector is not easy to use - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115727#1733709 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:41:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: [Usability] Move the delete action outside of edit for link inspector and language inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98272#1733710 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:43:00] 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: [iOS Safari on desktop site] The Web visual editor incorrectly breaks the line after the opening "(" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115819#1733712 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Lowest [01:45:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): Once the user has selected a suggestion in the link editor, hide all other link target suggestions until (?) they edit the search box - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114180#1733717 (10Jdforreste... [01:45:09] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): Once the user has selected a suggestion in the link editor, hide all other link target suggestions until (?) they edit the search box - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114180#1687191 (10Jdforreste... [01:46:39] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): No such file or directory - i18n/af.json (Errno::ENOENT) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111525#1733722 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Normal>3Unbreak! [01:47:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): No such file or directory - i18n/af.json (Errno::ENOENT) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111525#1606436 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This change has broken every single browser test on all platforms now for a week. Could you please fix it or... [02:40:48] (03Abandoned) 10Jforrester: ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Disable on all translateable pages [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234252 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [07:35:43] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "I guess we should go through Comms signoff again, as it appears something was missed. Where is that procedure documented, James?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246713 (owner: 10Amire80) [07:36:37] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Also, how is "Comms signoff unchangeable string phrasing" itself documented? There is no trace I can see that this is "protected wording"." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246713 (owner: 10Amire80) [08:10:11] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64217) (owner: 10Eranroz) [08:31:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: Be able to set an item's size in upright terms in the media edit dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64671#1734077 (10Trizek-WMF) So the message we have to spread is "don't use upright anymore" ? [10:08:38] 10VisualEditor: Use a template instead of span tags concerning language in a text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115839#1734342 (10Trizek-WMF) 3NEW [10:51:53] 10VisualEditor, 10Graph-VisualEditor: Edit graph size in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109631#1734412 (10Esanders) You can use ve.ui.DimensionsWidget in the form. You can also mixin ResizableNode so you can drag-resize like with images. [10:57:16] 10Cite, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3), 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): The error normally shown if a named is defined multiple times doesn't appear if the page is missing tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114898#1734419 (10matmarex) [11:00:00] 10Cite, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-06_(1.27.0-wmf.2), 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3), 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-27_(1.27.0-wmf.4): The error normally shown if a named is defined multiple times doesn't appear if the page is missing tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114898#1734444 (10matm... [11:00:51] 10Cite: Coded unreadable reference name in 3 media wiki messages in non-ASCII languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115809#1734451 (10matmarex) [11:05:45] Hello I have a problem with visualeditor. The visual editor was installed and parsoid was configured correctly and worked for some time. Now, after reinstalling mediawiki and running visual editor using the edit tab on my mediawiki installation, there is a blue loading bar, which is not loading till the end. May you check wiki.vocaloid.de for furth [11:05:45] er assistance? [11:06:36] By the way, I am using mediawiki 1.25.3 [11:07:07] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "It's not :(" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/234252 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [11:07:35] hi Nekura [11:09:21] Nekura: you're using incompatible versions of VisualEditor and MediaWiki. if you're running MW 1.25, you should use the 1.25 branch of VE, not master. [11:10:09] Nekura: if you downloaded it from mediawiki.org, select "1.25" at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/VisualEditor and do it again. if you're using git, do `git checkout REL1_25`. [11:10:23] (in the extensions/VisualEditor directory) [11:10:28] Oh ok thanks I will try it again! :) [11:14:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 7Epic, 7Technical-Debt: Augment ve.Range with annotation boundary side information - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113361#1734508 (10Esanders) Shouldn't this be at the LinearSelection level. Currently a Range isn't even specif... [11:19:03] 10VisualEditor: Clicking 'Insert paragraph' makes Save button active. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93643#1734538 (10Esanders) 5Open>3declined a:3Esanders Insert paragraph inserts a paragraph. VE can't really know efficiently whether the modified model state will result in a wikitext change. You cou... [11:26:45] 10VisualEditor: '' is frequently used unnecessarily in VisualEditor and put in - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106641#1734571 (10Esanders) [11:26:57] 10TemplateData, 5Patch-For-Review: TemplateData: Provide information about preferred formatting of transclusions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64217#1734574 (10Elitre) Is this a dupe of T64147 ? [11:27:53] 10VisualEditor: Provide an auto-correct feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115847#1734580 (10Esanders) 3NEW [11:28:18] 10VisualEditor: Provide an auto-correct feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115847#1734594 (10Esanders) [11:28:21] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector, 7I18n: Add a way to correct Romanian diacritics in VE before the page is saved - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106049#1457659 (10Esanders) [11:28:26] 10VisualEditor: Provide an auto-correct feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115847#1734580 (10Esanders) [11:28:28] 10VisualEditor: '' is frequently used unnecessarily in VisualEditor and put in - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106641#1473950 (10Esanders) [12:06:38] MatmaRex: I applied your recommendations, but when I download VE directly, upload it to my server and extract it, the plugin does not create a new tab to get into edit mode (currently). When downloading using GIT the error with the unfinished loading bar persisted.. May you check wiki.vocaloid.de again? [12:07:27] sorry, not at the moment [13:56:45] 10VisualEditor, 6Multimedia, 7Design: Add hover state to VE when image file in being dragged onto in for uploading - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115859#1734798 (10Prtksxna) 3NEW [14:11:12] 10VisualEditor, 6Multimedia, 7Design: Use image description as caption and insert image in content after its uploaded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115865#1734858 (10Prtksxna) 3NEW [14:11:33] 10VisualEditor, 6Multimedia, 7Design: Use image description as caption and insert image in content after its uploaded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115865#1734858 (10Prtksxna) [15:28:24] 10Cite: Create tracking category for ref used multiple times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115828#1735044 (10Krenair) [15:52:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests, 5Patch-For-Review: Delete or fix failed VisualEditor browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94162#1735110 (10JanZerebecki) Jobs still need to be manually deleted: 16:12:47 Only in output-parent: browsertests-VisualEditor-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-l... [15:59:24] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Analysis, 6Editing-Department: Investigate why visual editor users have a higher save rate in EventLogging data but didn't in the A/B test - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108241#1735122 (10Elitre) Opening the editor to copy and paste is a known workflow in VE as well. This task... [16:03:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests, 5Patch-For-Review: Delete or fix failed VisualEditor browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94162#1735127 (10zeljkofilipin) >>! In T94162#1735110, @JanZerebecki wrote: > Jobs still need to be manually deleted: > 16:12:47 Only in output-parent: browsert... [16:23:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests: Delete or fix failed VisualEditor browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94162#1735197 (10zeljkofilipin) a:5zeljkofilipin>3Amire80 [16:28:25] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): No such file or directory - i18n/af.json (Errno::ENOENT) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111525#1735212 (10zeljkofilipin) @Vikassy while resolving T94162 I have deleted all VisualEditor jobs except one (that does not have this error... [16:57:41] 10TemplateData, 10Parsoid: Add an option in TemplateData to specify whether parameters for each template should be recorded in wikitext all on one line or with each parameter on a separate line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147#1735347 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:57:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: Break lines are missing while inserting infoboxes or categories with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111674#1735346 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:00:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 7Easy: When inserting a new transclusion, drop empty suggested (but not required) parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101075#1735361 (10DLynch) Can this actually be done without potential side-effects? [Handling Parameters](https://en.wikipedia.... [17:11:01] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: Break lines are missing while inserting infoboxes or categories with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111674#1735476 (10ssastry) [17:20:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Cursoring left next to an about-grouped alien leaves the cursor inside it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114545#1735516 (10DLynch) a:5dchan>3DLynch [17:22:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Cursoring left next to an about-grouped alien leaves the cursor inside it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114545#1735522 (10Esanders) I think what we need to do is observe if the cursor ends up sandwiched between two DOM nodes which have .data('view') of the... [17:22:23] 10VisualEditor, 10Browser-Tests, 5WMF-deploy-2015-10-13_(1.27.0-wmf.3): No such file or directory - i18n/af.json (Errno::ENOENT) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111525#1735524 (10Vikassy) These 2 are different issue. Pointing to the correct issue: T90577 (this is where the problem is) [17:32:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Cursoring left next to an about-grouped alien leaves the cursor inside it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114545#1735563 (10dchan) I think the check and fixup should be in afterDocumentKeyDown, and it should check for isArrow. The more obvious approach - ma... [17:38:09] 10Cite: The group argument to the references tag should be added as a class attribute - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115894#1735579 (10jeblad) 3NEW [17:39:47] 10TemplateData, 5Patch-For-Review: TemplateData: Provide information about preferred formatting of transclusions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64217#1735593 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:39:49] 10TemplateData, 10Parsoid: Add an option in TemplateData to specify whether parameters for each template should be recorded in wikitext all on one line or with each parameter on a separate line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147#1735594 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [17:40:30] 10Cite: The group argument to the references tag should be added as a class attribute - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115894#1735599 (10jeblad) [17:41:24] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10Parsoid: Parsoid on serialisation should use the `format` field from TemplateData if available to set the whitespace formatting of new/edited transclusions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111674#1735601 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Low>... [17:44:23] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Introducing template format (033 comments) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64217) (owner: 10Eranroz) [17:50:31] eranroz: Do you want me to make tweaks to ^^^ or do you want to? [17:53:25] James_F: yes please :) [18:17:56] Kk. [18:45:14] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Introducing template format (033 comments) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64217) (owner: 10Eranroz) [18:45:22] (03PS8) 10Jforrester: Introducing template format [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147) (owner: 10Eranroz) [18:45:52] James_F: thanks! you are quick :) [18:45:55] (03PS9) 10Jforrester: Introducing template format [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147) (owner: 10Eranroz) [18:46:00] * James_F grins. [18:47:19] what I'm still not 100% sure about this patch, is the comment that Krinkle raised as this is the first parameter in TemplateData that is specific to wikitext [18:47:26] Yes. [18:47:38] Don't worry about that. [18:48:32] 10TemplateData, 10Parsoid, 5Patch-For-Review: Add an option in TemplateData to specify desired wikitext whitespace formatting of parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147#1735917 (10Krinkle) [18:48:39] Yes, we just don't have a more elegant way to tell parsoid what is the expected wikitext output [18:48:52] I think it's elegant enough. [18:54:54] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [C: 031] Introducing template format (031 comment) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147) (owner: 10Eranroz) [18:55:45] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Introducing template format (031 comment) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147) (owner: 10Eranroz) [19:12:01] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston, 3Discovery-Analysis-Sprint, 3Team-Practices-This-Week: Help requested from an R expert to help tweak phlogiston (burnup chart scripts) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110080#1735974 (10JAufrecht) I think you can close this; the new subtasks cover the specific followup wor... [19:25:36] (03CR) 10Krinkle: Introducing template format (031 comment) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147) (owner: 10Eranroz) [19:26:34] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Introducing template format (031 comment) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64147) (owner: 10Eranroz) [20:36:43] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Follow-up 97ba0da: Fix build for added language 'sgs' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247454 [20:45:25] hallo [20:45:31] a very long shot, but I'll try: [20:46:17] One of the common reasons for in the Hebrew Wikipedia is typing not-quite-valid wiki syntax in template parameters. [20:47:19] Such as typing "{{Flag|France}" in the country parameter of a football player, with a missing closing curly. Happens almost every day. [20:47:56] I hardly know how to make the handling of such a thing smarter, but thought that I should mention. [20:47:59] mooey|lecture: ^ [20:48:00] example [20:49:28] https://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%A0%D7%91%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%A6%D7%A8%D7%A4%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%9B%D7%93%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%92%D7%9C&curid=62896&diff=17601943&oldid=17600967 [21:40:34] ryasmeen: Can you +2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247454 please? :-) [21:41:56] (03CR) 10Ryasmeen: [C: 032] Follow-up 97ba0da: Fix build for added language 'sgs' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247454 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:42:12] Thanks! [21:42:17] sure :) [21:44:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow-up 97ba0da: Fix build for added language 'sgs' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247454 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:52:58] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (e25b3fe) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247469 [21:53:58] (03CR) 10Ryasmeen: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (e25b3fe) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247469 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:57:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (e25b3fe) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247469 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:41:50] 10VisualEditor: Cannot select date from calendar inside Media upload dialog when the browser window is resized in a way that it overlaps with the calendar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115939#1736645 (10Ryasmeen) 3NEW [22:46:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston: Restore VE tranches to report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115941#1736694 (10JAufrecht) 3NEW a:3JAufrecht [22:55:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media, 6Multimedia, 7Design: Provide a way during the upload stage for the user to change their mind about what file to upload once they've started it uploading - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114938#1736729 (10Ryasmeen) This is also useful for the case, where... [23:04:51] 10VisualEditor: While uploading image, clicking on "Try again" allows renaming the filename, even though it previously complained about it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115944#1736755 (10Ryasmeen) 3NEW [23:12:34] 10VisualEditor: "A file with name "$1" already exists in the shared file repository, and cannot be overwritten" shows up while trying to rename a file with single letter which is different from standard format - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115946#1736794 (10Ryasmeen) 3NEW