[02:18:28] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department: Obviate the need for wikis' wrapper and functionality-replacement templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95543#1791650 (10Alsee) This approach is hopeless and counterproductive. The whole point of templates is that the community constantly revises them and constantl... [02:20:56] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 6Multimedia: Make enwiki's Template:Gallery redundant by implementing all its features in wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95531#1791652 (10Alsee) This approach is hopeless and counterproductive. The whole point of templates is that the... [03:48:44] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7WorkType-NewFunctionality: Warnings on data loss are not applied in Flow when VE or wikitext is used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97292#1791686 (10Quiddity) [03:53:01] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7I18n: visualeditor-wikitext-warning must be different for Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103971#1791695 (10Quiddity) [03:53:10] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 6Multimedia: Make enwiki's Template:Gallery redundant by implementing all its features in wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95531#1791698 (10Esanders) I disagree. Basic image usage doesn't use templates in 99% of cases, so we should be a... [03:53:35] 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7I18n: Better warn of detected wikitext on Flow VE mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116900#1761361 (10Quiddity) [04:23:08] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 6Multimedia: Make enwiki's Template:Gallery redundant by implementing all its features in wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95531#1791709 (10TTO) Hmm... * The enwiki Template:Gallery (now Module:Gallery) has barely changed in the past c... [04:55:02] 10VisualEditor: Table pasting problem in visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117859#1791721 (10NehalDaveND) {F2928260} before table constant pasted like this image.... Please do as like this..... [08:18:40] 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Gallery, 6Multimedia: Make enwiki's Template:Gallery redundant by implementing all its features in wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95531#1791774 (10Alsee) Maybe "wrap" was a poor choice of word? I meant... if Gallery accepts different parameter... [09:24:46] 10Cite, 6Editing-Department, 7Design: Cite: Support multi-column and alternative list-style for tag (like enwiki {{reflist}}) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53260#1791794 (10Alsee) >For VisualEditor, we are continuously-bitten by tags that are embedded within generated con... [12:13:15] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should keep functional the links under page title (inside contentSub) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118116#1791906 (10He7d3r) 3NEW [13:43:00] 10VisualEditor: moving from source editing to VisualEditor on an empty newly-created page gives an HTTP 400 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118118#1791935 (10Amire80) 3NEW [13:43:42] 10VisualEditor: moving from source editing to VisualEditor on an empty newly-created page gives an HTTP 400 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118118#1791943 (10Amire80) [15:46:00] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-InputBox: The "create" InputBox always uses the source editor and not the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118123#1792009 (10Amire80) 3NEW [16:16:15] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-InputBox: The "create" InputBox always uses the source editor and not the VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118123#1792036 (10matmarex) T89341? [17:15:27] (03PS5) 10Esanders: Surface drop: Show branch node drop markers for file drop [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115859) [17:21:43] (03CR) 10Esanders: Move binarySearch to OOJS (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246844 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:48:30] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Provide a tool to insert a signature in namespaces that need it [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251834 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53154) [17:52:29] (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 [17:54:58] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:55:59] (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Um, what? This test failure sure looks bogus." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:05:28] 10VisualEditor: an unnecessary warning is shown when saving a page in mobile VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116537#1792219 (10Amire80) I could just reproduce it. I couldn't take a screenshot, because apparently my phone doesn't allow screenshot while a dialog is shown. Are you testing on Fire... [19:41:45] 10VisualEditor: an unnecessary warning is shown when saving a page in mobile VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116537#1792250 (10Krenair) I use Chrome on Android [20:10:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10RESTBase, 6Services, 7RESTBase-API: VE should send If-Match header to the VRS to send on to RESTbase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113728#1792289 (10Krenair) I think we send an If-Match header containing the provided ETag now, yes. I don't know which par... [20:10:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10RESTBase, 6Services, 7RESTBase-API: VE should send If-Match header to the VRS to send on to RESTbase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113728#1792291 (10Krenair) Oh... Actually, that probably only works when you access restbase directly, not in any other con... [20:22:38] 10VisualEditor: an unnecessary warning is shown when saving a page in mobile VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116537#1792294 (10Amire80) It doesn't happen on Chrome, but it does happen in Firefox. [20:22:53] 10VisualEditor: an unnecessary warning is shown when saving a page in mobile VisualEditor using Firefox for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116537#1792295 (10Amire80) [20:25:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10RESTBase, 6Services, 7RESTBase-API: VE should send If-Match header to the VRS to send on to RESTbase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113728#1792298 (10GWicke) @krenair, `mw:TimeUuid` is something RESTBase injects into the Parsoid HTML it returns, as a fall... [20:27:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10RESTBase, 6Services, 7RESTBase-API: VE should send If-Match header to the VRS to send on to RESTbase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113728#1792299 (10GWicke) [20:30:12] 10VisualEditor: Captchas for external links not working in visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118135#1792300 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [20:31:13] 10VisualEditor: Captchas for external links not working in visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118135#1792307 (10Krenair) [20:33:23] (03PS1) 10Alex Monk: Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251843 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) [20:35:26] quiddity, I have a potential fix for that (certainly seems to fix it for me) [20:35:38] should I apply it and see if that fixes it for people? [20:36:37] Krenair, possibly? It does seem to be a fairly urgent problem... [20:37:33] i saw it mentioned in -en-helpers, and went digging [20:38:13] are they still in there? [20:39:12] Krenair, oh, it was a while ago. There are many reports compiled at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback#Captchas_not_accepted.3F though [20:39:55] and i reproduced, with both anon and new-account, so, it seems bad. [20:48:59] (see -operations, I deployed the fix and it seems okay now) [20:50:55] tested and confirmed, with both logged-out and new-account. Thanks again, Krenair. :) [20:51:27] * quiddity goes back to cleaning his apt, instead of half-working... [21:21:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1792341 (10Risker) There is no benefit to this from the editorial perspective. This is a desi... [23:10:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1792429 (10APerson) I guess I see why this change would be beneficial (especially to new user...