[06:07:06] <wikibugs>	 10Cite: Changing text of Mediawiki:Cite error ref no key - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115810#1792559 (10darthbhyrava) a:3darthbhyrava Can I submit a patch for this? As in, the suggested edit is simple, but is it acceptable or should be provide another message?
[06:26:34] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 5Patch-For-Review: Changing text of Mediawiki:Cite error ref no key - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115810#1792591 (10darthbhyrava) Up for review. If there are any changes to the message suggested, I'd gladly update my commit. :)
[07:18:21] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: moving from source editing to VisualEditor on an empty newly-created page gives an HTTP 400 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118118#1792614 (10Aklapper)
[07:46:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10DLynch: Close inspectors before executing a ve.ui.Tool command [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250646 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76717) 
[07:58:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10DLynch: Add ve.Scheduler [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250904 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117620) 
[08:01:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add ve.Scheduler [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250904 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117620) (owner: 10DLynch)
[08:02:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10DLynch: Add ve.Scheduler [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250904 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117620) 
[08:13:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10DLynch: Close inspectors before executing a ve.ui.Tool command [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250646 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76717) 
[08:14:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 032] Add ve.Scheduler [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250904 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117620) (owner: 10DLynch)
[08:18:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add ve.Scheduler [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250904 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117620) (owner: 10DLynch)
[08:24:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 031] "Seems like the right way to do this" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250646 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76717) (owner: 10DLynch)
[10:00:34] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1792739 (10TheDJ) 3NEW
[10:12:13] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1792767 (10Aklapper)
[11:55:08] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: moving from source editing to VisualEditor on an empty newly-created page gives an HTTP 400 error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118118#1793047 (10TTO)
[12:18:04] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-History-or-Diffs, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing: Say "Your edit has been saved" instead of "The page has been restored" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117662#1793078 (10Nnemo) >>! In T117662#1781741, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: > The introduction of a different text was explicitly re...
[12:53:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1793178 (10Krenair)
[14:43:24] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 7Browser-Tests: Delete or fix failed VisualEditor browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94162#1793441 (10zeljkofilipin)
[15:02:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1793494 (10TheDJ) Wouldn't it be handier to set this ticket as "blocked by" instead of duplicate ? Separating the higher level user story from...
[15:16:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Divec: WIP: Diff richtext to build model changes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247800 
[15:17:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251843 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[15:17:15] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: [Regression wmf.5] Getting 400 error while trying to switch from wikitext editor for section editing to VisualEditor when clicked on "discard changes" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780#1793559 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved p:5Triage>3High a:3Kr...
[15:20:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Divec: WIP: Build model transactions from richtext DOM diff [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/249077 
[15:22:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251843 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[15:22:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "…" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251843 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[15:23:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: Build model transactions from richtext DOM diff [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/249077 (owner: 10Divec)
[15:26:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251843 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[15:28:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251969 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) 
[15:28:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251969 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:28:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Drop any beforeunload handlers when loading from existing wikitext [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251717 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117769) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:30:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Jforrester: Revert "Use mw.loader.using instead of weird hacks to load OOjs UI on action=edit" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251733 (owner: 10Ori.livneh)
[15:32:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251969 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:32:39] <James_F>	 Eurgh.
[15:33:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Unset 'action' query parameter from veEditUri, which should always point to VE [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251969 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117780) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:33:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop any beforeunload handlers when loading from existing wikitext [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251717 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117769) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:40:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: WikiEditor integration: Only add VE switch button if VE is available [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251651 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117968) 
[15:40:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "PS2: Rebase onto If86701ed." [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251651 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117968) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:43:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-2] "This violates one of the principal rules of VE design (the toolbar's tools should always be present, but disabled if inappropriate in this" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251834 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53154) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:45:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WikiEditor integration: Only add VE switch button if VE is available [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251651 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117968) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:47:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] "…" [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251651 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117968) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:50:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: WikiEditor integration: Only add VE switch button if VE is available [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251651 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117968) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[15:50:57] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, and 3 others: API requests fail to load captcha information for some requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118052#1793704 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[15:51:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, and 3 others: API requests fail to load captcha information for some requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118052#1790295 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:38:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Flow, 3Collaboration-Team-Current: Cannot paste category into editor in VE mode (master, beta, mw.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118191#1793855 (10Mattflaschen)
[16:43:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: "References list" should be an item in the Cite menu, not in the Insert one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118193#1793862 (10Elitre) 3NEW
[16:44:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: "References list" should be an item in the Cite menu, not in the Insert one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118193#1793870 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Why? It's not a citation.
[16:44:23] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: "References list" should be an item in the Cite menu, not in the Insert one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118193#1793871 (10Elitre)
[16:45:17] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: "References list" should be an item in the Cite menu, not in the Insert one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118193#1793862 (10Elitre) Because it has to do with adding citations, I guess.
[16:46:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10UI-Standardization, 7Design: Come up with a better re-usable UI concept for a button to switch editor-mode; the current one is confusing, and hard to discover - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116417#1793877 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T116417#1770006,...
[16:51:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[16:51:50] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 5WMF-deploy-2015-11-03_(1.27.0-wmf.5), 5WMF-deploy-2015-11-10_(1.27.0-wmf.6): Switching from WE to VE and saving, then navigating a different page causes an unsaved changes warning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117769#1793896 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[16:53:49] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Performance, 5WMF-deploy-2015-11-03_(1.27.0-wmf.5), 5WMF-deploy-2015-11-10_(1.27.0-wmf.6): Half a megabyte of JavaScript / CSS loading on view pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118088#1793900 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5High>3Unbreak!
[16:55:03] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests, 5Patch-For-Review: Enable Visual Editor in draft namespace in Persian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118060#1793913 (10Krenair) 5Open>3Resolved
[16:56:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added Rakefile [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) 
[16:58:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1793940 (10Mattflaschen) I would prefer it be faster too as a developer, but debug mode is not for normal usage.  Also, this is...
[16:58:23] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1793942 (10Mattflaschen)
[17:01:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Added Rakefile [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[17:02:54] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Table pasting problem in visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117859#1793952 (10Elitre)
[17:02:56] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1793954 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Per @Krinkle, you should not ever use debug mode and it's going away. Or something.
[17:03:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1793956 (10Mattflaschen) We might be able to not load (though a lot is accessible through keyboard shortcuts even though it app...
[17:03:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1793963 (10Krenair) Not if they end up being fixed by the same change...
[17:06:36] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Table pasting problem in visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117859#1793964 (10NehalDaveND) @Elitre Thank you. Can you tell me this is a solvable problem or it is very long processed hard problem ?
[17:11:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Zfilipin: Added Rakefile [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) 
[17:13:45] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-CopyPaste, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Table pasting problem in visual Editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117859#1793980 (10Elitre) I don't know, I don't have MS Word and therefore can't try to reproduce, and I don't recall about recent changes that meant VE lost the abilit...
[17:22:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Still needs to audit all the uses of 'msie' to add 'edge' except where proven unnecessary." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/221171 (owner: 10Paladox)
[17:23:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] "Good to merge once the rake CI job is enabled." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[17:34:00] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794046 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T102398#1792341, @Risker wrote: > There is no benefit to t...
[17:36:32] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794055 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T102398#1792429, @APerson wrote: > I guess I see why this...
[17:37:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "check experimental" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[17:45:29] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1794096 (10matmarex) 5duplicate>3Open This is //so// not a duplicate, and should be fixed in VE regardless of RESTBase problems.
[17:51:52] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1794123 (10Krenair) You mean special cased in VE because RESTBase can't handle it?
[17:55:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) 
[17:56:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 5Patch-For-Review: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1794145 (10matmarex) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! This literally prevents users from starting new articles using VE. I think it...
[18:00:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 04-1] "I don't think this is the proper way to solve the issue." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:00:43] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 5Patch-For-Review: Switch to VE button presented on Create page but doesn't function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152#1794171 (10Krenair)
[18:18:41] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794230 (10John_Broughton) I'm going to repeat most of an earlier comment, because I think it...
[18:38:02] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794292 (10matmarex) I think a single tab would be better than two, but I also think a prefer...
[18:38:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794297 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T102398#1794292, @matmarex wrote: > I think a single tab w...
[18:59:38] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1794350 (10He7d3r) Well, how else can I find the source of bugs such as T110182 if not using debug mode? An URL like https://pt...
[19:09:48] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794370 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T102398#1794230, @John_Broughton wrote: > I'm going to rep...
[19:10:28] <James_F>	 Kemayo: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49344 is the relevant task about sub-documents, BTW.
[19:10:39] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794372 (10Quiddity)
[19:13:26] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Provide a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794380 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Also, all these comments about design, how it should work //etc./...
[19:14:43] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794381 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:27:08] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Epic, 5Patch-For-Review: Change VE integration to only use one edit tab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114530#1794403 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[19:27:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10GWicke: [C: 031] "A quick fix like this would be good to stop this impacting users" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[19:40:50] <James_F>	 edsanders: Review on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/248369/ please? :-)
[19:51:34] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794506 (10APerson) >>! In T102398#1794297, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >>>! In T102...
[20:00:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:08:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:30:42] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794545 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T102398#1794506, @APerson wrote: >>>! In T102...
[21:10:20] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Flow, 3Collaboration-Team-Current: Cannot paste category into editor in VE mode (master, beta, mw.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118191#1794577 (10Etonkovidova) The same problem with non-Flow page - checked in betalabs.
[22:17:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:21:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:23:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:25:25] <James_F>	 Krenair: Having fun?
[22:27:30] <Krenair>	 Something like that
[22:28:08] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#1794703 (10RandomDSdevel) >>! In T102398#1794297, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: >>>! I...
[22:28:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:28:26] <MatmaRex>	 what the hell is wrong with jenkins today
[22:28:35] <MatmaRex>	 can't we force-merge this?
[22:29:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:29:44] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: No.
[22:31:19] <MatmaRex>	 new means of enforcing code freeze, i guess.
[22:32:05] * James_F grins.
[22:34:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:35:41] <Krenair>	 At what point do we consider jenkins too disruptive to our work with this test voting?
[22:36:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:37:06] <James_F>	 Krenair: The tests would pass if we e.g. emptied the MF repo.
[22:37:16] <James_F>	 Krenair: Maybe not this time around…
[22:40:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:42:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032 V: 032] "Meh." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252014 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:44:16] <James_F>	 Krenair: Tsk. :-)
[22:44:26] <Krenair>	 Yeah, I gave up in the end.
[22:44:56] <Krenair>	 One day I'll learn how the CI system works and submit a commit to make that test non-voting until someone who can fix it does.
[22:48:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1794739 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T118090#1794350, @He7d3r wrote: > Well, how else can I find the source of bugs such as T110182...
[22:48:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252123 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) 
[22:48:29] <James_F>	 (Here we go again.)
[22:49:55] <James_F>	 edsanders: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/251016/
[22:50:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[22:51:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Education pop-ups work badly in mobile, in some cases being impossible to close - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603#1794743 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved
[22:51:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.init: Make switching to VE for new pages work [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252123 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118152) (owner: 10Jforrester)
[22:52:36] <Krenair>	 Am I imagining things or is it worse than normal?
[22:54:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Close inspectors before executing a ve.ui.Tool command [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250646 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76717) (owner: 10DLynch)
[22:54:39] <James_F>	 Krenair: It's worse than normal.
[22:55:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[22:55:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Esanders: Move binarySearch to OOJS [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246844 
[22:56:39] <MatmaRex>	 Krenair: hey, i know where it could be disabled, i think. i couldn't merge/deploy, though.
[22:56:46] * James_F sighs.
[22:57:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: "The failure is JSCS" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:58:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "Yeah, I'm saying JSCS is wrong, sorry." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:58:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[22:58:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Close inspectors before executing a ve.ui.Tool command [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250646 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76717) (owner: 10DLynch)
[22:58:55] <MatmaRex>	 edsanders: Krinkle is going to complain about that. he really hates trailing line comments, last i asked.
[22:59:10] <MatmaRex>	 i'm not sure if this preference got encoded into our jscs config. ;)
[22:59:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move binarySearch to OOJS [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246844 (owner: 10Esanders)
[23:00:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:00:16] <Krinkle>	 MatmaRex: It didn't, but should. Yeah, in this case, just add a line comment over the parmeter like // Explain \b param,
[23:00:18] <Krinkle>	 \n
[23:00:39] <Krinkle>	 Im surprised JSCS complains about use of /*  */ inline though
[23:00:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10DLynch: Watch for hashchance on the demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252124 
[23:00:57] <Krinkle>	 I think because it's the first thing on that line
[23:01:39] <MatmaRex>	 Krinkle: what you're saying is that this is obviously a JSCS bug. :)
[23:02:59] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Cannot paste category into editor in VE mode (master, beta, mw.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118191#1794775 (10Mattflaschen)
[23:03:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10DLynch: Watch for hashchange on the demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252124 
[23:03:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Watch for hashchange on the demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252124 (owner: 10DLynch)
[23:03:45] <Kemayo>	 Heh, I got my fix in before jenkins could even tell me I needed it.
[23:04:06] <James_F>	 Kemayo: :-)
[23:05:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Surface drop: Show branch node drop markers for file drop [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115859) (owner: 10Esanders)
[23:06:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:09:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jforrester: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:09:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Surface drop: Show branch node drop markers for file drop [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247586 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115859) (owner: 10Esanders)
[23:09:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:11:26] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: an unnecessary warning is shown when saving a page in mobile VisualEditor using Firefox for Android - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116537#1794810 (10Krenair) I just made http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=UserMergefdiixo&diff=prev&oldid=285443 without a warning on Firefox
[23:11:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 
[23:11:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: ve.ui.Sequence: Allow sequences to insert content (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:12:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Watch for hashchange on the demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252124 (owner: 10DLynch)
[23:14:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-1] "Eww." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:16:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "I like this way better. I could also do "/* noAutoSelect =*/true,", which almost looks like named function parameters. Or we could wrap th" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:16:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Watch for hashchange on the demo [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252124 (owner: 10DLynch)
[23:16:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: "I think comments touching code looks terrible." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:17:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: MediaSizeWidget: Allow an user to really use a custom size [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243979 (owner: 10Florianschmidtwelzow)
[23:18:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:18:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:18:50] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Nothing happens when clicking on the glowing blue (education) dots in Firefox 41/Windows 7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118219#1794818 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) 3NEW a:3Krenair
[23:20:12] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Nothing happens when clicking on the glowing blue (education) dots in Firefox 41/Windows 7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118219#1794827 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:5Krenair>3None
[23:20:19] <Krenair>	 huh
[23:20:25] <Krenair>	 ^ guess there could be a JS error going on there
[23:20:36] <Krenair>	 I imagine whatever it is will be changed by the commit we're just sending through now though
[23:21:15] <James_F>	 Probably.
[23:21:18] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: i'll file a jscs bug about that, btw
[23:22:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:23:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Restructure education popup code to work without overriding onSelect [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117603) (owner: 10Alex Monk)
[23:23:36] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Hmm. Yeah, though they might say the 'bug' is with jscs-preset-wikimedia's desire.
[23:24:16] <MatmaRex>	 James_F: then they'd be wrong
[23:26:19] <James_F>	 MatmaRex: Sure.
[23:27:17] <MatmaRex>	 https://github.com/jscs-dev/node-jscs/issues/1968
[23:27:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: "https://github.com/jscs-dev/node-jscs/issues/1968" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:29:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 5Patch-For-Review: Write a scheduler singleton to execute code after some other code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117620#1794845 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[23:29:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 5Patch-For-Review: [Regression wmf12] Uncaught Error: “Offset could not be translated to a DOM element and offset: 2” when selecting a heading format with language inspector open. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76717#1794844 (10Jdforrester-WMF)
[23:30:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] "Fine." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251835 (owner: 10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:31:46] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Nothing happens when clicking on the glowing blue (education) dots in Firefox 41/Windows 7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118219#1794850 (10Krenair) We just changed how this works in T117603. Were you able to reproduce the issue? If not, can we ask Risker to chec...
[23:32:14] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Nothing happens when clicking on the glowing blue (education) dots in Firefox 41/Windows 7 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118219#1794852 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled
[23:41:41] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Be able to switch editors after starting to edit a section - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117716#1794864 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) This is a page-blanking bug.  Steps to reproduce:  1) Click "Edit source" on a section in a long page.  2) Switch to the visual editor....