[00:03:33] is ferdbold around? [00:03:57] yurik: Nope, sorry. [00:16:37] (03PS38) 10Alex Monk: [WIP] Single edit tab and section links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248369 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58337) [00:20:49] 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Plugins, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ProofreadPage, 6Wikisource, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey: Create a VisualEditor plugin to integrate with ProofreadPage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48580#1860974 (10DannyH) [01:08:59] (03CR) 10Esanders: "Let's get something close to working merged - then we can fix issues in parallel." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248369 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58337) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [01:12:20] edsanders, I basically consider this "close to working" [01:12:23] unless you managed to break it [01:12:57] as long as it doesn't break until you enable the feature in config... [01:12:57] Krenair: [WIP] says otherwise. :-) [01:13:27] yeah - remove WIP and merge [01:13:46] did you check those section links? [01:14:14] Also, maybe let's not merge it before the cut in the morning. :-) [01:17:04] I'll look tomorrow morning [08:49:11] 10Cite, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey: Cite : Share : Export - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120487#1861547 (10Reedy) [09:53:43] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 3Google-Code-In-2015: Use en dash instead of hyphen-minus between page numbers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113570#1861631 (10Mvolz) @Aklapper, can you unpublish this one? I tagged it but it's not really suitable as you can see there's very little in the way of explanation y... [09:58:17] 10VisualEditor: VE adds heading in html instead of wikicode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120808#1861644 (10Magioladitis) 3NEW [10:28:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Location map template does not display correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52714#1861699 (10Nemo_bis) [10:31:10] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: VisualEditor: Location map template does not display correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52714#1861718 (10Nemo_bis) >>! In T52714#589573, @TheDJ wrote: > the technology of absolute positioning that is use by these templates and replace them with someth... [11:25:53] 10VisualEditor: After switching from source to visual editing and saving the page's keeps saying "Editing" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120816#1861837 (10Amire80) [11:53:40] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor: After switching from source to visual editing and saving the page's <title> keeps saying "Editing" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120816#1861881 (10Krenair) [11:53:42] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 5WMF-deploy-2015-11-10_(1.27.0-wmf.6): The text "Editing" is appearing before the article title when I switch to VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117643#1861882 (10Krenair) [12:01:42] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Divec: LinkInspectorTool: Move link specific code to LinkInspectorTool (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257322 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:59:47] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs, 10OOjs-UI: Submit OOjs UI and OOjs to cdnjs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106721#1861959 (10Ricordisamoa) https://github.com/wiki-ai/wikilabels bundles OOjs and OOjs UI but would benefit from cdnjs. [12:59:52] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs, 10OOjs-UI: Submit OOjs UI and OOjs to cdnjs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106721#1861961 (10Ricordisamoa) [13:17:46] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 032] LinkInspectorTool: Move link specific code to LinkInspectorTool [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257322 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:20:13] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS1) 10Esanders: [PULL THROUGH] Tool refactor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257589 [13:21:54] <grrrit-wm1> (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: LinkInspectorTool: Move link specific code to LinkInspectorTool [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257322 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:22:23] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [PULL THROUGH] Tool refactor [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257589 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:24:14] <edsanders> Krenair, there are issues with section editing - but let's merge anyway [13:32:35] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS1) 10Esanders: LinkAnnotation: Allow inference from DOM [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257590 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) [13:32:55] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] "Need testing.." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257590 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) (owner: 10Esanders) [13:43:59] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Esanders: "This converts MW links to plain 'link' annotations, which should never exist in an MW surface." [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257590 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) (owner: 10Esanders) [14:37:46] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Bug in VE when edit a template having formulas with vertical bars - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120826#1862126 (10Kulla) 3NEW [14:47:23] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Character ↵ appears in <blockquote> tags with the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120827#1862157 (10Kulla) 3NEW [14:49:26] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS1) 10Esanders: TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 [15:33:59] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Divec: "I originally said "tag" because to me the algorithm "feels" like you're inside a bunch of open HTML tags. That said, "element" would be mo" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:34:09] <James_F> Heya. [15:34:51] <edsanders> hi [15:41:32] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 6Multimedia: Show not logged in error before uploading to stash in mw.Upload.BookletLayout - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115866#1862327 (10matmarex) [15:41:35] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Media, 6Multimedia: MWMediaDialog: exception "Local uploads are disabled" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119314#1862326 (10matmarex) [15:43:53] <grrrit-wm> (03PS1) 10Esanders: WIP Recover annotations via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) [15:44:27] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 04-1] TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' (033 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:45:51] <grrrit-wm> (03PS2) 10Esanders: TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 [15:45:54] <grrrit-wm> (03PS2) 10Esanders: WIP Recover annotations via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) [15:47:24] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Esanders: TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' (032 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:50:47] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Divec: TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:28:25] <grrrit-wm> (03PS3) 10Divec: WIP Recover annotations via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:51:13] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor: When link edit pressed left-top menu is not hiding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120822#1862498 (10Krenair) [16:51:21] <grrrit-wm> (03PS3) 10Esanders: TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 [16:51:23] <grrrit-wm> (03PS4) 10Esanders: TextState: Recover annotation models via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) [16:54:57] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 032] TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:58:37] <grrrit-wm> (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: TextState(Chunk): Rename 'tag' to 'element' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257602 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:31:24] <grrrit-wm> (03PS5) 10Esanders: TextState: Recover annotation models via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) [17:33:04] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Come up with a better way to auto-label references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92432#1862609 (10Krinkle) I ran into this earlier today. `name=":0"` is too generic and easily causes problems when bringing in content from another page (both in wikitex... [17:34:14] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 032] TextState: Recover annotation models via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:39:08] <grrrit-wm> (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: TextState: Recover annotation models via .data('view'). [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:41:13] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 5Patch-For-Review: Model and view out of sync when link deleted and replaced with text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001#1862649 (10Esanders) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Esanders [17:41:53] <grrrit-wm> (03Abandoned) 10Esanders: LinkAnnotation: Allow inference from DOM [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257590 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115001) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:45:11] <Krinkle> Wow, the new code editor is awesome [17:45:18] <Krinkle> Part of VE [17:45:34] <Krinkle> Nicely done. Kudos on integrating Ace [17:46:01] * Krinkle reads October tech new [17:46:02] <Krinkle> s [17:46:31] <grrrit-wm> (03PS39) 10Alex Monk: Single edit tab and section links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248369 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58337) [17:47:31] <grrrit-wm> (03PS40) 10Alex Monk: Single edit tab and section links [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248369 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58337) [17:51:14] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10DLynch: [C: 04-1] "ve.ui.ToolbarDialogTool.js also contains an @extends reference to ve.ui.DialogTool." (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257387 (owner: 10Esanders) [18:27:03] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Japanese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109818#1862831 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:27:41] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Korean - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110654#1862843 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:37:47] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 7Browser-Support-Firefox: Uncommitted Korean IME candidate text ignored when user presses enter, causing CE/DM desync in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120156#1862866 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:40:43] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Word breaking rules used in VisualEditor do not work optimally in Japanese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101917#1862895 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:40:45] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Japanese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109818#1862894 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:46:41] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Consider splitting observed transactions on word boundaries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120855#1862907 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW [18:48:22] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Japanese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109818#1862936 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:48:24] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Non-finalised input is added to the document when using the Anthy Japanese IME with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108566#1862931 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Jdforrester-WMF Regretfully, I'm going to decline this one as I don't... [18:48:36] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Non-finalised input is added to the document when using the Anthy Japanese IME with VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108566#1862938 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:48:38] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Japanese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109818#1559977 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:51:00] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Firefox: ve-ce-chimera gets displayed sometimes in blank Flow boxes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98544#1862954 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:51:27] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Detect annotation changes on poll - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114751#1862960 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This should now be resolved with the recent mega-change. [18:51:47] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 5WMF-deploy-2015-12-08_(1.27.0-wmf.8): Detect annotation changes on poll - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114751#1862964 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3dchan [18:51:51] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 5WMF-deploy-2015-12-08_(1.27.0-wmf.8): Detect annotation changes on poll - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114751#1705010 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [18:57:11] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 7Browser-Support-Firefox, 5WMF-deploy-2015-12-08_(1.27.0-wmf.8): In Firefox, overwriting a selection across an annotation start causes misrendering - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111051#1862996 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3dchan [19:11:39] <James_F> Krinkle: :-) [19:11:48] <James_F> Krinkle: Seen the new Math editor? [19:12:23] <James_F> Krinkle: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Math?veaction=edit [19:15:10] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 6Multimedia, 5Patch-For-Review: Show not logged in error before uploading to stash in mw.Upload.BookletLayout - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115866#1863056 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex [19:15:23] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Media, 6Multimedia, 5Patch-For-Review: MWMediaDialog: exception "Local uploads are disabled" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119314#1863058 (10matmarex) a:3matmarex [19:18:08] <edsanders> Krinkle, it only supports a few languages, see the extension.json of CodeEditor [19:18:32] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7user-notice: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Arabic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120858#1863070 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW a:3Jdforrester-WMF [19:18:41] <edsanders> we need a way of fetching arbitrary language definition files [19:18:49] <edsanders> geshi used to just make a module for every language [19:19:54] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Remove tooltips from search results in the link inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99312#1863077 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Neil_P._Quinn_WMF I now realize that we currently need these tooltips because titles are often longer than... [19:20:39] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7user-notice: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Indic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120859#1863080 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW a:3dchan [19:21:04] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Arabic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120858#1863087 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:5Jdforrester-WMF>3dchan [19:22:49] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Indic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120859#1863091 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:23:57] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Indic script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120859#1863094 (10Amire80) (How about adding a column to the table that says something like "tested by a speaker"?) [19:24:12] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: When backspacing away the last character in a list item, a <br> is added - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94483#1863096 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF This looks long-resolved to me. [19:28:32] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Tracking: VisualEditor multilingual input / i18n issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35077#1863114 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:34] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Implement script-specific cursoring for Devanagari if native cursoring is insufficient - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55754#1863109 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Jdforrester-WMF I'm provisionally deeming this fixed. We changed t... [19:28:37] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Automatic Incorrect caret movement with ULS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56424#1863116 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:39] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Text duplication when using jquery.IME on existing pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56421#1863117 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:41] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: "Uncaught Error: ve.dm.Document.getNodeFromOffset(): offset 804 is out of bounds" triggered using jquery.IME - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56331#1863119 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:43] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getOffset' of null" triggered using jquery.IME - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56334#1863118 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:45] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Visualditor: Marathi/Devanagari: edit change not reflecting in edit preview - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55758#1863121 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:47] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Marathi/Devanagari: Save button does not get enabled for same or lesser length change - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55788#1863120 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:28:49] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Cursor cannot move through text created with jquery.IME when editing bulleted text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55711#1863124 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:34:41] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Han script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120862#1863147 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 3NEW a:3Jdforrester-WMF [19:35:43] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests, 7user-notice: Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all "phase 6" Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93387#1863168 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:36:41] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests, 7user-notice: Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all "phase 6" Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93387#1135906 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:37:41] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Han script wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120862#1863184 (10Jdforrester-WMF) a:5Jdforrester-WMF>3dchan [19:38:50] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Consider splitting observed transactions on word boundaries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120855#1862907 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:39:01] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston: Forecast graphs should round up (so that 0.4 weeks doesn't show as 0 weeks, but as 1) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120721#1859928 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:39:12] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor: Make sure there is plenty of "shovel-ready" work for late December - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120706#1859587 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:39:28] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Phlogiston, 15User-JAufrecht: Adjust VE recently closed chart so that big spike doesn't distort the rest - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120700#1863216 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:39:50] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Technical-Debt: Refactor math dialog and special character inserter to make button menu a separate class - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120512#1863220 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:39:56] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Technical-Debt: Refactor math dialog and special character inserter to make button menu a separate class - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120512#1855246 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:40:16] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 6Editing-Analysis: Run experiment defaulting anonymous editors to the visual editor on the English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119269#1863224 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:41:54] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, and 3 others: MediaWiki should provide a pluggable registry for editor interfaces - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120414#1853488 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:42:18] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Graph: Migrate graphs from Vega 1 to Vega 2 syntax on edit with VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120319#1863236 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [19:42:38] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 5Patch-For-Review: Make math dialog optional - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120382#1863246 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:43:13] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 5Patch-For-Review: Make it possible for users to use a smaller math dialog with fewer components so they can see more of the underlying page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120382#1863251 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [19:43:25] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Be able to trigger debug mode (open debug bar, etc.) on demand inside the editor, rather than only in init if ?debug=true - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120229#1863254 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:44:38] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor: [Regression] Cannot create a new page with VisualEditor in ca.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120536#1863266 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! [19:45:01] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Implement script-specific cursoring for Devanagari if native cursoring is insufficient - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55754#549766 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:45:16] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: VisualEditor: Implement script-specific cursoring for Devanagari if native cursoring is insufficient - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55754#549766 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:47:18] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Math, 7Epic, 7Milestone: [Objective] Improve support for math editing by improving the UX of the Math extension and researching its usability - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118616#1863292 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:47:37] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: The text "Editing" is appearing before the article title when I switch to VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117643#1863294 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:57:49] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-History-or-Diffs, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 7Easy, 7I18n: Say "Your edit has been saved" instead of "The page has been restored" when editing an oldid that happens to also be the current - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117662#1863345 (10Nemo_bis) [20:04:35] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS1) 10Eranroz: Guess parameters when templatedata is missing [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) [20:06:26] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Guess parameters when templatedata is missing [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [20:06:37] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Broken interlanguage links with 'displayed' invisible text labels disappear when the page is opened in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120580#1863396 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Lowest [20:08:10] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Broken interlanguage links with 'displayed' invisible text labels disappear when the page is opened in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120580#1856803 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Perhaps we could detect these and show them as broken meta items (like how we sho... [20:09:17] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor: Dirty diff: interwikimedia link from enwiki to enwikt - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120582#1863417 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This is odd. #Parsoid shouldn't re-write that link under selSer, but I don't think VE changes those, does it? [20:09:26] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS2) 10Eranroz: Guess parameters when templatedata is missing [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) [20:09:38] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Parsoid: Dirty diff: interwikimedia link from enwiki to enwikt - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120582#1863421 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:10:07] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Technical-Debt: Core code should not be aware of node names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120652#1863425 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:10:19] <wikibugs> 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#1863430 (10kaldari) @Mvolz: Any thoughts on the issue described above? [20:10:43] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Graph: [Regression wmf.8] Saving a page after adding a graph throws error "TypeError: rect is undefined" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120699#1863435 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [20:11:56] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Remove button appears on context menu for MW link nodes, but does not do anything - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120705#1863443 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:17:16] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: Parsoid tries to serialise a paragraph-terminating ref and a heading onto the same line, so falls back to HTML rather than wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120808#1863473 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:17:28] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS3) 10Eranroz: Guess parameters when templatedata is missing [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) [20:18:55] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 10Parsoid: Don't escape with nowiki when in a non-wikitext (extension) context inside a wikitext context (e.g. formula within a template) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120826#1863486 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [20:20:00] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Character ↵ appears in <blockquote> tags with the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120827#1863501 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This is a version of {T50290} about `blockquotes` rather than paragraphs. Not sure if it's better to merge them. [20:20:16] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Character ↵ appears in multi-line <blockquote> tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120827#1863504 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:21:21] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-DataModel, 10Parsoid: Dirty diff: interwikimedia link from enwiki to enwikt - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120582#1863512 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:21:35] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 7Tracking: Improve VisualEditor's performance on tablet devices - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64755#1863514 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:21:47] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Make the Sogou Input IME work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T49436#1863515 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:22:05] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Japanese - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109818#1863518 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:22:11] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Korean - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110654#1863523 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:22:21] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 7Milestone: Make VisualEditor good enough to use with all common IMEs for Korean - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110654#1583254 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:23:22] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 6Design Research Backlog, 5Design Research and product team collaboration: Create test plan for VE on mobile evaluation for new users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88756#1863525 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:23:28] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Tapping edit on an existing link shows a misaligned title suggestion - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108330#1863526 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:23:47] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 10Parsoid: Don't escape with nowiki when in a non-wikitext (extension) context inside a wikitext context (e.g. formula within a template) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120826#1863527 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:30:57] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: Guess parameters when templatedata is missing (033 comments) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [20:52:07] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Anomie: Guess parameters when templatedata is missing (032 comments) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [20:55:33] <wikibugs> 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#1863715 (10Mvolz) @kaldari. Probably bookChapter should be Template:Citation instead, that w... [20:58:56] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 7Design, and 2 others: Consider removing the extra asterisk for the required parameters inside the template dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107544#1863733 (10Aklapper) @Ankitashukla: Could you take a look at the GCI t... [21:04:30] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS4) 10Eranroz: Guess parameters when templatedata is missing [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) [21:13:39] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Eranroz: "(regarding the possible fails)" (032 comments) [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [21:18:45] <wikibugs> 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#1863785 (10kaldari) @Mvolz: The Citation template isn't supported by RefToolbar (and probabl... [21:31:48] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS1) 10Jforrester: MWSaveDialog: De-flag the 'return to save' button on diffs [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257742 [21:37:07] <James_F> edsanders: BTW, branch is cut, go go go for merge. [21:40:37] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Jforrester: "I'm not sure I like how disruptive this could be; I'd much rather do this on an opt-in basis, at least at first." [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [21:47:30] <grrrit-wm1> (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update OOjs UI to v0.14.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257749 [21:49:14] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Eranroz: "This way, it will be "magically" possible to edit almost all templates in all wikis with VisualEditor, even without TemplateData." [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [21:50:38] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Bartosz Dziewoński: [C: 032] Update OOjs UI to v0.14.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257749 (owner: 10Jforrester) [21:51:07] <grrrit-wm1> (03CR) 10Jforrester: "90+% of users using the wikitext or visual editors will never have edited a template. "Warning" them that the template data is automatic a" [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257684 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54581) (owner: 10Eranroz) [21:56:43] <grrrit-wm1> (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs UI to v0.14.1 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257749 (owner: 10Jforrester) [22:02:02] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10MediaWiki-Interface, and 10 others: Use Parsoid HTML for all page views - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55784#1863913 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [22:02:57] <eranroz> James_F: hi [22:03:36] <James_F> Hey. [22:03:47] <James_F> (I'm going to a meeting, but back later.) [22:03:49] <eranroz> don't you think it is less desired the VE template dialog is missing parameters from all tempaltes missing TemplateData, compared to show some wrong parameters in less than 1% of the templates? :) [22:04:02] <eranroz> ok. thanks [22:07:28] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht: Run Analytics/VE SLU - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120879#1863923 (10JAufrecht) 3NEW a:3JAufrecht [22:08:30] <wikibugs> 10Citoid, 6Security: Citoid converts ignores <302::aid-ajmg13> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119494#1863930 (10Bawolff) a:3Bawolff [22:09:17] <wikibugs> 10Citoid, 6Security-Team: Citoid converts ignores <302::aid-ajmg13> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119494#1827796 (10Bawolff) p:5Triage>3Normal [22:13:49] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10MediaWiki-Interface, and 10 others: Use Parsoid HTML for all page views - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55784#1863943 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) [22:45:10] <edsanders> cool [22:45:57] <edsanders> eranroz, how are you guessing parameters? [22:46:23] <eranroz> regex, something like {{{(.+?)[|}] [22:46:39] <edsanders> from where? [22:46:52] <eranroz> from the wikitext of the template [22:47:06] <edsanders> so you are assuming the template page has documentation on it? [22:47:08] <eranroz> it will not work for Lua templates, but in most cases it should work [22:47:32] <eranroz> this is fallback if templatedata is missing [22:47:57] <eranroz> i don't assume there is documentation, and it doesn't guess the description of the parameters [22:48:01] <eranroz> just their names [23:04:38] <James_F> eranroz: How are you treating their names? '_' -> ' ' substitution? Title casing? [23:04:44] <James_F> edsanders: So, are we merging? [23:05:32] <eranroz> there is no treatment for '_' => ' '. but it can be added [23:05:38] <eranroz> it just need to be lightweight [23:05:51] <eranroz> (handling noinclude/includeonly will be too heavy) [23:06:20] <James_F> Most templates that need documentation and lack it will have noinclude/includeonly. [23:06:26] <James_F> Because template writers hate you. [23:06:45] <eranroz> but not {{{ in the no include [23:07:08] <James_F> Sometimes? [23:07:30] <James_F> {{{{#if:foo:bar}}|baz}}} [23:07:56] <eranroz> this will not fail, because in PS4 teh requirement is for eactly 3 { [23:08:05] <eranroz> and here there are 4 [23:08:53] <James_F> I still want this to be opt-in at first. [23:09:00] <edsanders> James_F, sure [23:10:27] <eranroz> so do you think Template dialog in VE should read templatedata, and if there is some known warning it shouldn't show the parameters but a message "Parameters for this template aren't known. but press here to guess them" :) [23:10:43] <James_F> eranroz: Yes, that's already a task. [23:11:04] <James_F> eranroz: "No-one has described this template yet. If you know how it works, __can you do so__?" [23:11:07] <James_F> Or something like that. [23:11:39] <eranroz> but people usually don't, and in that case it will be nice to show them the guessed parameters [23:11:49] <eranroz> as it works for 99% of the templates [23:11:55] <James_F> Which 99%? [23:12:08] <James_F> Have you tried it on popular, undocumented templates? What's the impact? [23:13:10] <eranroz> We can test it - but if it fails to guess parameters we are fine because this is the current behaviour [23:13:19] <eranroz> and if it guess them correctly it is even better [23:13:54] <eranroz> the only issue is indicating non existing parameters - and I couldn't find any heavily used template in which this happen [23:21:16] <edsanders> James_F, can we generate such a list (popuplar templates without templatedata) [23:21:57] <James_F> edsanders: Max did it a while ago. The script he wrote is I believe on the ticket. [23:22:28] <James_F> edsanders: There's a long-standing task to create a Special:UndocumentedTemplates page on the wiki to prompt people, but that's not been done. [23:22:51] <James_F> Partially because we were hoping that the new system of associated namespaces would come soon, and didn't want to re-write. [23:23:46] <edsanders> T54581? [23:24:56] <James_F> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52368 [23:25:20] <James_F> And https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71866 [23:27:04] <eranroz> select * from templatelinks where tl_from_namespace=10 and not exists(select * from page inner join page_props on pp_page=page_id where page_title=tl_title and pp_propname='templatedata' and page_namespace=10) group by tl_title order by count(*) desc limit 50; [23:27:17] * James_F nods. [23:27:27] <James_F> We'd need to make it an expensive page and set it up to be cron-job'ed. [23:27:33] <James_F> But it'd be useful. [23:30:29] <wikibugs> 10TemplateData: TemplateData: Generate and display to users frequency metrics on incomplete template data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71866#1864116 (10eranroz) Possible query for getting the most important templates missing template data: ``` select * from templatelinks where tl_from_namespace=10 and no... [23:31:06] <James_F> There's also the question of meta-templates that aren't used except in e.g. the template namespace, where TD isn't as vital. [23:31:25] <James_F> eranroz: Thank you. :-) [23:31:45] <eranroz> yes, actually the most used templates are meta-templates [23:34:09] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] "Should we fix this?" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248369 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58337) (owner: 10Alex Monk) [23:34:35] <James_F> Err. [23:34:39] <James_F> s/fix/merge/ [23:34:42] <wikibugs> 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References: Come up with a better way to auto-label references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92432#1864124 (10Anomie) >>! In T92432#1862609, @Krinkle wrote: > also no idea why there is a colon in the name The Cite extension doesn't support integers as reference... [23:34:43] <James_F> edsanders: [23:43:10] <edsanders> Should we fix what? [23:49:05] <grrrit-wm> (03PS1) 10Esanders: Annotation: Rename 'inferFromDom' to 'inferFromView' [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257775 [23:52:46] <grrrit-wm> (03PS2) 10Esanders: [DEPRECATING CHANGE] Rename link inspector tools [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257387 [23:56:14] <grrrit-wm> (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [DEPRECATING CHANGE] Rename link inspector tools [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/257387 (owner: 10Esanders) [23:59:16] <James_F> edsanders: Should we merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248369 ? [23:59:56] <edsanders> probably not before the release?