[00:01:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Guide VisualEditor users on limits to editing DISPLAYTITLE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97497#1243941 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) As a first pass, what do you think about saying something like, "This does not change the page title. You need to [[Special:Move]] the pa... [00:03:54] 10VisualEditor: Consider a way to make "changing the title" (moving the page) more obvious to new users in the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126368#2053607 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [00:09:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Guide VisualEditor users on limits to editing DISPLAYTITLE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97497#1243941 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Current message: > You can over-ride how this page's title is displayed by setting a different label to show instead. I think perhaps it... [00:10:13] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MobileFrontend, 13Patch-For-Review, 3Reading-Web-Sprint-67-i: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2023745 (10Jdlrobson) [00:11:18] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Update VE core submodule to master (2279bbb) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272610 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:20:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update VE core submodule to master (2279bbb) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272610 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:21:54] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MobileFrontend, 13Patch-For-Review, 3Reading-Web-Sprint-67-i: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2053674 (10Jdlrobson) @jcrespo you do rock indeed :) I can take care of the deployment side of things and measuring the impact on the c... [00:27:53] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 04-1] "This only works for me if I remove the this.initialEditSummary = undefined; line of ve.init.mw.DesktopArticleTarget.prototype.openSaveDial" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272312 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114857) (owner: 10Wctaiwan) [00:34:44] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Update OOjs UI to v0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272622 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:36:02] (03PS3) 10Alex Monk: Warn for empty summary when edit section used [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272312 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114857) (owner: 10Wctaiwan) [00:36:29] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 031] "I think this is now OK, but I've contributed too much to +2" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272312 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114857) (owner: 10Wctaiwan) [00:50:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update OOjs UI to v0.16.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272622 (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:50:08] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Only load a page/booklet once [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272334 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126138) (owner: 10TheDJ) [00:51:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Only load a page/booklet once [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272334 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126138) (owner: 10TheDJ) [01:10:12] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Use upstream highlightQuery method in OOUI [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271984 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:10:25] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Make main template param select widget drag/drop re-orderable [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271801 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:10:40] (03PS5) 10Jforrester: Keep JSON data as an object (not a string) until the last possible point [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271970 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:10:44] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Keep JSON data as an object (not a string) until the last possible point [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271970 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:10:51] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Param list style tweaks [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271977 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:11:03] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Give drag handle an increased opacity on hover [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272521 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:11:56] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: Give drag handle an increased opacity on hover [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272521 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:12:09] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Give drag handle an increased opacity on hover [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272521 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:15:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use upstream highlightQuery method in OOUI [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271984 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:15:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make main template param select widget drag/drop re-orderable [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271801 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:15:45] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show param label in list if available [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271969 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:15:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Keep JSON data as an object (not a string) until the last possible point [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271970 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:15:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Param list style tweaks [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/271977 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:15:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Give drag handle an increased opacity on hover [extensions/TemplateData] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272521 (owner: 10Esanders) [01:19:39] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Automatic creation of Citation from URL is not working - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127746#2052629 (10Krenair) WFM in beta and production - I get a website citation [01:42:36] 10VisualEditor, 10Improving-access, 6Research-and-Data: Turn the link rec gadget into an experimental gadget in enwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126535#2053860 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [01:42:38] 10VisualEditor, 10Improving-access, 6Research-and-Data: Code the mock-ups for link recommendations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126536#2053859 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [02:12:26] 10VisualEditor, 7Design: When people change a link label on VE, they don't change the link target. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127690#2053936 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [02:12:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55973#2053937 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [02:15:14] 10Cite: Strip markers in references data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127787#2053940 (10Cenarium) [02:15:59] 10Cite: Strip markers in references data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127787#2053954 (10Cenarium) p:5Triage>3Normal [03:32:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Guide VisualEditor users on limits to editing DISPLAYTITLE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97497#2054022 (10Krenair) Would need to send the value of wgRestrictDisplayTitle to the client, but ok. Also note that you can't necessarily change the case of all character... [03:33:42] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Guide VisualEditor users on limits to editing DISPLAYTITLE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97497#2054023 (10AlexMonk-WMF) Would need to send the value of wgRestrictDisplayTitle to the client, but ok. Also note that you can't necessarily change the case of all char... [04:10:48] 10VisualEditor, 6Operations, 10Parsoid, 10Traffic, and 2 others: Decom parsoid-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org entrypoint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110474#2054101 (10BBlack) 5stalled>3Resolved [05:29:36] 10WikiEditor, 5WMF-deploy-2016-03-01_(1.27.0-wmf.15): Every click after the initial selection of a character set in WikiEditor contiguously loads the entire group at the end of the previous group - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126138#2054152 (10Fomafix) 5Open>3Resolved p:5Triage>3Normal a:5Fomaf... [05:32:41] (03CR) 10Fomafix: "T126138 is solved by Ib4b2b76b115026df12a7d9cc3c30b7559c2580e4" [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/268968 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126138) (owner: 10Gerrit Patch Uploader) [06:38:52] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 6Editing-Department: Cite should not depend on VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127763#2053288 (10Nikerabbit) Similar to {T125494} [10:51:07] 10Cite, 13Patch-For-Review: Strip markers in references data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127787#2054750 (10Aklapper) [10:57:23] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Keyboard shortcut to get out of the link dialog/inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127814#2054778 (10Elitre) [11:15:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55973#2054851 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T55973#2052851, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote: > With the benefit o... [11:27:32] 10VisualEditor: The Visual Editor is asked for two additional namespaces on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127819#2054881 (10JackPotte) [11:49:38] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaisons, 3Liaisons-February-2016: Add a few things to the FAQ page for the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127822#2054940 (10Elitre) [11:54:12] 10VisualEditor, 6Community-Liaisons, 3Liaisons-February-2016: Add a few things to the FAQ page for the visual editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127822#2054969 (10Elitre) p:5Triage>3Normal [12:34:19] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: The Visual Editor is asked for two additional namespaces on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127819#2055085 (10Aklapper) Setting project to #Wikimedia-Site-Requests, as this request is about settings / configuration of a Wikimedia website. F... [12:45:39] 10VisualEditor: Offer documentation in a sidebar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127829#2055133 (10Elitre) [13:48:55] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools: VisualEditor: History actions should scroll the location of the transaction into view (unless it's a meta-data transaction which has no location?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60091#2055246 (10Esanders) 5Open>3Resolved This was probably fixed a while ago. [13:50:55] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Warn me that 'merge cells' means 'lose most of your content' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127505#2045517 (10Esanders) Wiping a bunch of content is the only sensible thing that can happen when you merge cells, so I'm not sure when a user would expect something else... [14:01:25] 10VisualEditor: Undo history breakpoints should be inserted at word breaks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834#2055289 (10Esanders) [14:52:45] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should warn when user enters wikitext but the editor is expecting plaintext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107441#2055364 (10Elitre) >>! In T107441#1797915, @DLynch wrote: > "Noticing if wikitext was contained somewhere in a massive paste and explaining our objection to it" is... [15:28:15] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 04-1] "The two main issues I have:" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272510 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124305) (owner: 10DLynch) [15:34:54] 10VisualEditor, 13Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor has difficulty replacing a bare URL with different link text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124305#1952432 (10Esanders) You are running an older version of MediaWiki. VisualEditor is a fast changing product and we don't yet have any supported old versions.... [15:49:41] 10VisualEditor: VisualEditor should warn when user enters wikitext but the editor is expecting plaintext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107441#2055488 (10Elitre) [[ https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Elitre_(WMF)/Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=79031121 | This ]] may be another example of pasted cod... [16:19:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests, 13Patch-For-Review: Enable single edit tab on huwiki and review - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126801#2055609 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved [16:19:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic, 7user-notice: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#2055610 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:30:56] 10WikiEditor, 7Browser-Support-Firefox: Ctrl + End should update the scroll position like Page down - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127601#2055671 (10TheDJ) In my opinion, if this really is a browser bug, we should't invest time into it. Also Windows specific btw, on Mac OS X the navigation behaves like m... [16:40:14] 10WikiEditor: Need to make a different action by different language on same custom button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122919#2055691 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Invalid In Javascript, you can use `mw.config.get( 'wgContentLanguage' )` and `mw.config.get( 'wgUserLanguage' )` to determine the language of the con... [16:43:50] 10VisualEditor: Template (puzzle) icon displaces images/templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319#2055705 (10Esanders) 5Open>3Resolved This will have been fixed by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/268437/ [16:49:51] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5WMF-deploy-2016-02-16_(1.27.0-wmf.14): Template (puzzle) icon displaces images/templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319#2055735 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal a:3DLynch [16:50:59] 10Citoid, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-February-2016: Tech Talk with Sebastian K. (Zotero) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125796#2055750 (10Rfarrand) p:5Triage>3High [16:51:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5WMF-deploy-2016-02-16_(1.27.0-wmf.14): Template (puzzle) icon displaces images/templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319#2055756 (10Esanders) 5Resolved>3Open Still occurring on beta labs for flag icons, so clearly not: http://en.wikipedia.beta.... [16:52:05] 10VisualEditor, 6Discovery, 10Kartographer, 10Maps: " Invalid parameters for the tag: Syntax error" appears in the read mode after adding map in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127345#2040584 (10Yurik) [16:54:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5WMF-deploy-2016-02-16_(1.27.0-wmf.14): Template (puzzle) icon displaces images/templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319#2055787 (10Esanders) Part of the problem will be hasRendering, which iterates using this.$element.each which only checks first... [16:57:13] 10WikiEditor: WikiEditor's CSS hiding of editHelp and the pipe separator throws a flash of unstyled content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120408#1853093 (10TheDJ) From: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=ext.wikiEditor&only=styles&skin=vector&version=e5a8a7e69161 [16:57:56] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 5WMF-deploy-2016-02-16_(1.27.0-wmf.14): Template (puzzle) icon displaces images/templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319#2055807 (10Esanders) The other issue is one that's come up a few times, which is that in MW, the first setup of nodes happens w... [17:02:34] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 6Wiktionary: Pasting text into the page edit area sometimes causes text below the paste to move up (which should never happen) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110605#2055821 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Invalid I see something similar in Chrome 49.0.2623.54 beta (64-bit).... [17:04:43] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Make surface measurable while activating [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272763 [17:05:20] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Make surface measurable while activating [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272763 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319) [17:05:51] 10WikiEditor: Icons are missing on fast closing and opening the tabs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106993#1483607 (10TheDJ) For future reference: http://api.jquery.com/stop/ [17:05:59] Krinkle, is this going to be really slow: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/272763/ ? [17:06:16] (03CR) 10Esanders: "/me is concerned about performance though" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272763 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319) (owner: 10Esanders) [17:07:53] 10WikiEditor: Toolbar buttons that invoke dialogs insert text into incorrect text areas when there is more than one WikiEditor on a page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103772#2055864 (10TheDJ) "I have several text areas with WikiEditor toolbars attached on a single page." Where and how do you have this ? T... [17:08:03] 10WikiEditor: Toolbar buttons that invoke dialogs insert text into incorrect text areas when there is more than one WikiEditor on a page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103772#2055865 (10TheDJ) p:5Triage>3Low [17:10:07] 10WikiEditor, 7Tracking: WikiEditor issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26493#2055874 (10TheDJ) [17:10:12] 10WikiEditor, 7Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Toolbar : Special character insertion moves cursor to beginning of edit box - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24479#2055871 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Resolved IE8 is javascript less now, so, calling this Fixed/no longer relevant. [17:16:06] (03CR) 10DLynch: "Ignoring the button issue for a second, what do you think of having it behave as it does now, but also closing the context item when the "" [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272510 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124305) (owner: 10DLynch) [17:22:41] (03PS5) 10Florianschmidtwelzow: Use mw.widgets.DateInputWidget or ToggleSwitchWidget for parameters with appropriate type [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246862 [17:23:13] edsanders: Hm.. good point [17:23:28] edsanders: Does the consuming method need to make style calculations per se, though? [17:23:49] it does in the example [17:23:52] Or can it infer that state based on js data? Presumably the thing that renders it knows that it's doing it and can maintain that without going into the dom and pulling it back out [17:24:12] So it relies on the exact width as in the current user's browser? [17:24:39] so if the thing being rendered is an image tag [17:24:55] you can look at dimensions attributes - provided they exist [17:25:14] this is similar to the problem we had with the Maps extensions [17:25:39] if you attach a load event to an image it will fire before the surface is visible (if the image is cached) [17:26:24] you can do a fairly good job of know how big something will be, but it's easiest to just wait until is has finished rendering [17:26:34] edsanders: I'm not sure I understand the problems. How do I reproduce it? [17:26:51] the link on the bug has an example [17:26:58] I understand not wanting or being able to guess the width. I'm not getting why we want that. [17:27:08] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/English_language?action=edit [17:27:18] It doesn't say what the bug is. It just has links and something about puzzle icons for templates [17:27:24] I don't see it [17:27:30] first big table [17:28:08] we show a puzzle icon for templates which have an small enough (i.e. "invisible") rendering [17:28:13] "English-speaking countries in order of total speakers" [17:28:29] yes [17:28:50] So the puzzle is shown instead (or over top?) template nodes that are too small? [17:29:03] yes - it's attached to the rendering [17:29:14] *appended [17:29:24] it assumes the rest of the rendering is (nearly) invisible [17:32:34] (prepends actually it seems) [17:32:38] Yeah. [17:32:56] In most cases there are no sibling nodes as there was no output to begin with (or non-ce nodes at least, e.g. meta data) [17:33:43] 10WikiEditor: When wiki link is switched to external, users need to be informed via status change - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24291#2055986 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Resolved This was fixed at some point in time. It now switches the status to the external link image after switching. [17:36:05] Krinkle, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/272433/ [17:36:14] i replied to your comment [17:36:41] 10WikiEditor, 7Tracking: WikiEditor issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26493#2056001 (10TheDJ) [17:36:45] 10WikiEditor: Newline handling when using edit toolbar buttons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24488#2055999 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Resolved Most of this is solved, other than the potential point of splitting up the bolding per line. Since we have not had any comments about this since 2011 however when this w... [17:38:15] Krinkle, so the question is: is that patch going to make page rendering much slower [17:38:21] I'm checking now [17:38:54] edsanders: I did notice on my localhost that entering VE from page view makes rendering collapse temporarily and then boom back in after VE is activated, causing a big bump [17:39:31] There's not an immediately obvious performance difference on simple cases, at least. [17:40:01] https://gist.github.com/Krinkle/6b636a0f56b1a88da1ab [17:40:30] The top part of the page involving the code element collapses in initial VE rendering with nothing in its place. seems a regression compared to a few weeks ago [17:41:08] 10WikiEditor: Link dialog: Display text box is one character behind on mirroring Link target box in Safari/Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24814#2056014 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Resolved As far as I can determine this is no longer a problem. [17:41:08] I don't see that happening. [17:42:12] edsanders: I can reproduce it with https://gist.github.com/Krinkle/6b636a0f56b1a88da1ab?r2 [17:42:21] (your bug) [17:44:45] I was thinking that if you have a massive DOM, then building it while it's visible will be really slow towards the end [17:45:07] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.15] VE crashes while trying to add map, Error "mw.kartographer.setGeoJsonString is not a function" appears in the console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127849#2056018 (10Ryasmeen) [17:45:41] 10VisualEditor: VE crashes while trying to add map, Error "mw.kartographer.setGeoJsonString is not a function" appears in the console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127849#2056030 (10Ryasmeen) [17:46:02] 10WikiEditor, 7Tracking: WikiEditor issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26493#2056033 (10TheDJ) [17:46:06] 10WikiEditor, 10OOjs-UI: Custom bold and italic icons for Russian & Ukrainian language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T25914#2056031 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Resolved As far as I can tell all WikiEditor issues were dealt with. If similar changes need to be made to VisualEditor, please file a new ticket for VE... [17:59:21] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MobileFrontend, 13Patch-For-Review, 3Reading-Web-Sprint-67-i: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2056110 (10jcrespo) I find amusing that I specifically [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125329#2004413 | banned s2 wikis ]] from b... [18:01:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage: Mac OSX Korean: Implicit completion of CV syllables causes text removal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127108#2056118 (10dchan) @Jdforrester-WMF too can reproduce this bug without using VE. On Mac OS X with Korean GongjinCh... [18:08:54] 10Cite, 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, and 3 others: Save references in page_props and cache - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125329#1984641 (10ssastry) >>! In T125329#2004488, @kaldari wrote: > Estimating the data size might be difficult for this. You could get a rough... [18:13:49] 10WikiEditor: Toolbar buttons that invoke dialogs insert text into incorrect text areas when there is more than one WikiEditor on a page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103772#2056248 (10cicalese) I use SemanticForms, which allows you to use WikiEditor to edit text areas. If you have multiple text areas usi... [18:16:05] 10VisualEditor: "this.model is null" after typing a formula inside Math dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127854#2056252 (10Ryasmeen) [18:16:31] 10VisualEditor: "this.model is null" appears after typing a formula inside Math dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127854#2056264 (10Ryasmeen) [18:21:21] (03CR) 10Krinkle: "Performance:" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272763 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127319) (owner: 10Esanders) [18:39:07] 10VisualEditor, 7Verified, 5WMF-deploy-2016-02-16_(1.27.0-wmf.14), 5WMF-deploy-2016-03-01_(1.27.0-wmf.15): [Regression wmf.14] Error "slug.firstChild.classList is undefined" appears while placing cursor at the end of a line - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127341#2056355 (10Ryasmeen) [18:43:57] (03PS6) 10Jforrester: Handle Enter keyPress without matching keyDown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/269362 (owner: 10Divec) [18:46:30] 10VisualEditor, 10Kartographer: VE crashes while trying to add map, Error "mw.kartographer.setGeoJsonString is not a function" appears in the console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127849#2056372 (10Ryasmeen) [19:08:04] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: IME tests: Add failing Korean IME test [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/268316 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120156) [19:08:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 7Upstream: Mac OSX Korean: Implicit completion of CV syllables causes text removal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127108#2056453 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:09:04] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, and 3 others: Mac OSX Korean: Implicit completion of CV syllables causes text removal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127108#2032909 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Normal>3Low [19:11:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] IME tests: Add failing Korean IME test [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/268316 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120156) (owner: 10Jforrester) [19:22:23] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Handle Enter keyPress without matching keyDown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/269362 (owner: 10Divec) [19:29:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Handle Enter keyPress without matching keyDown [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/269362 (owner: 10Divec) [19:32:57] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10OOjs-UI, 6UI-Standardization-Kanban, and 2 others: Gray for "inactive" elements in the toolbar is too light - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89271#2056596 (10ggellerman) [20:01:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design, 7Epic, 7user-notice: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102398#2056780 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:02:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 6Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, and 3 others: Mac OSX Korean: Implicit completion of CV syllables causes text removal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127108#2056783 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Context: This appears to be a bug in Firefox (or in Ma... [20:03:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links, 7Design: VisualEditor: Link input widget should have separate inputs for target and display text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55973#2056784 (10Cirdan) I'd like to second this question. You could at the very least state the... [20:03:45] 10WikiEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-SemanticForms: Toolbar buttons that invoke dialogs insert text into incorrect text areas when there is more than one WikiEditor on a page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103772#2056785 (10TheDJ) [20:03:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: The Visual Editor is asked for two additional namespaces on the French Wiktionary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127819#2056786 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High a:3Jdforrester-WMF [20:06:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Keyboard shortcut to get out of the link dialog/inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127814#2056804 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Invalid > Currently, hitting ESC right after choosing a link target doesn't close the link tool -... [20:07:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 6Services: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Math node is appearing as UNIQ marker in Read mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127738#2056809 (10Physikerwelt) a:5Jdforrester-WMF>3None [20:08:18] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-InterfaceLanguage, 6Community-Liaisons, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization: Better process to change interface messages without damaging documentation in which they're mentioned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127732#2052222 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:09:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentLanguage, 10VisualEditor-DataModel: Undo history breakpoints should be inserted at word breaks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834#2056822 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [20:09:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Links: Keyboard shortcut to get out of the link dialog/inspector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127814#2056832 (10Elitre) If you had to close this this way, you could at least comment on the actual proposal. [20:10:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Table properties link doesn't seem to work in Mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127434#2056841 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled They seem to work for me? What didn't change? [20:12:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Tables: Warn me that 'merge cells' means 'lose most of your content' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127505#2056848 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3declined I think wiping out the content (and letting people undo) is significantly better for users than an irritating prompt ea... [20:12:12] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 6Services: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Math node is appearing as UNIQ marker in Read mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127738#2056850 (10Physikerwelt) Can someone judge the Priority of this task? [20:12:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design: Too many pop-ups before a user can start editing? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124294#2056851 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:13:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 7Design: Too many pop-ups before a user can start editing? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124294#1952216 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low The CX one shouldn't appear in the editing mode; however, more widely, you have a point. [20:14:35] 10VisualEditor, 10Kartographer: [Regression pre-wmf.15] VE crashes while trying to add map, Error "mw.kartographer.setGeoJsonString is not a function" appears in the console - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127849#2056857 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [20:14:49] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 6Services: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Math node is appearing as UNIQ marker in Read mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127738#2056861 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! [20:15:00] 10Citoid, 10MediaWiki-Authentication-and-authorization: CitoidDataModule depends on request data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127864#2056863 (10Anomie) [20:16:07] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 10Vector: [Regression wmf.14] Personal tools z-index are showing above OOUI dialogs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127742#2052538 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:16:12] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 10Vector: [Regression wmf.14] Personal tools z-index are showing above OOUI dialogs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127742#2052538 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [20:16:32] 10VisualEditor, 10Math: [Regression pre-wmf.15] "this.model is null" appears after typing a formula inside Math dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127854#2056883 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:16:40] 10VisualEditor, 10Math: [Regression pre-wmf.15] "this.model is null" appears after typing a formula inside Math dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127854#2056252 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [20:18:48] 10VisualEditor: [Regression wmf.14] In Chrome, previously opened menu from toolbar is not closing after opening another menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127739#2052467 (10Jdforrester-WMF) This is fixed in wmf.15 and wasn't broken in wmf.13, but I can't quite see what change in OOUI is at fault (assuming... [20:19:13] 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI: [Regression wmf.14] In Chrome, previously opened menu from OOUI toolbar doesn't close after opening another menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127739#2056892 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Normal [20:20:30] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Automatic creation of Citation from URL is not working - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127746#2056899 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3Resolved Probably just a glitchy deploy of the citoid/zotero services. [20:21:02] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 6Community-Liaisons: Consider helping some smaller Wikipedias' communities (which?) by writing the TemplateData to enable citoid for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127354#2040942 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3Low [20:22:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile: Table properties link doesn't seem to work in Mobile VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127434#2056908 (10Elitre) 5stalled>3Open Nothing at all happens when I click on the Properties link right after opening the page. Instead, if I click on a cell, the... [20:25:25] 10VisualEditor: Race condition in Chrome when clicking on links near bottom of screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127141#2056912 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 5Open>3stalled p:5Triage>3Normal Can you give an example page where this occurs for you? I tried this a few times on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [20:27:23] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "I'm not enthused with hiding the context menu in any circumstances (except when an inspector/dialog is open instead and the surface isn't " [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272510 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124305) (owner: 10DLynch) [20:28:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Kartographer, 7Beta-Cluster-reproducible: VE Map does not load dependency - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127865#2056925 (10Yurik) [20:28:57] 10VisualEditor, 10Kartographer, 7Beta-Cluster-reproducible: VE Map does not load dependency - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127865#2056938 (10Yurik) p:5Triage>3Unbreak! [20:29:14] edsanders, can you think of what could be causing this? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127865 [20:29:29] not working correctly in beta cluster :( [20:32:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 6Services: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Math node is appearing as UNIQ marker in Read mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127738#2056947 (10Physikerwelt) It seems that this is a problem which appears only in PNG rendering mode. See http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/User:Physi... [20:43:04] 10VisualEditor: Race condition in Chrome when clicking on links near bottom of screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127141#2057009 (10AxelBoldt) I just noticed that everything works fine if I disable the Navigation popups gadget in my user preferences. I'll edit the problem description and task title acco... [20:44:37] 10VisualEditor: Race condition in Chrome when clicking on links near bottom of screen if Navigation Popups gadget is enabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127141#2057025 (10AxelBoldt) [21:41:04] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Enable VisualEditor for logged-out and newly registered users on German Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127881#2057383 (10Gnom1) [21:43:45] 10VisualEditor, 10Math, 6Services, 13Patch-For-Review: [Regression pre-wmf.15] Math node is appearing as UNIQ marker in Read mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127738#2057405 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:43:47] 10VisualEditor, 10Math: [Regression pre-wmf.15] "this.model is null" appears after typing a formula inside Math dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127854#2057404 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:46:41] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Enable VisualEditor for logged-out and newly registered users on German Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127881#2057418 (10Elitre) So, no gradual rollout for newly registered editors? [21:49:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Enable VisualEditor for logged-out and newly registered users on German Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127881#2057427 (10Gnom1) I asked other community members and they seemed to be hesitant to this. Maybe you can make the case for a gradual rollout ag... [22:02:27] yurik, when was Karto enabled on beta labs? [22:03:19] The direct link is working because it was cached in RESTBase [22:03:34] I cleared the cache for that page and now it is showing as broken: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Map [22:03:44] "Invalid tag extension name: maps" [22:06:22] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-Requests: Enable VisualEditor for logged-out and newly registered users on German Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127881#2057520 (10Cirdan) [22:44:21] edsanders: https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/962699750444523/ [22:44:34] "Hey, has anyone ever tried to edit Wikipedia on an iPad in the VisualEditor? It's near on impossible... [22:44:37] I'm not complaining, the VE is pretty awesome, but I don't know how to log bugs... " [22:45:06] ppl explaining how to file bugs, but i figured reading it directly might be useful as well. [22:49:06] thedj, there is a mobile version which is designed for touch devices - but it's very beta - using the desktop version on a touch device is not supported [22:51:08] edsanders: we should measure how many people use desktop on mobile [22:51:15] or maybe we do.. /me has no clue [22:51:58] we would probably have a tablet version at some point that uses the touch screen work arounds from mobile, but is designed for a larger screen [23:14:37] 10TemplateData: TemplateData editor fails catastrophically when data contains $1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127898#2057888 (10Esanders) [23:19:37] 10WikiEditor: Special characters menu defaults to open in wikitext editor, despite being closed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65586#2057958 (10TheDJ) 5Open>3Invalid Nobody has been able to reproduce this as far as I know. provisionally closing for that reason, can be reopened if more information is av... [23:28:36] RoanKattouw: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127898#2057888 [23:28:43] 10WikiEditor: WikiEditor: Browser undo (Ctrl+z) doesn't work on content added via the "advanced" options (make bullet, etc.) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70043#2058057 (10TheDJ) Some browser support dispatchEvent + insertText command http://help.dottoro.com/ljuecqgv.php ``` var event = document.createEve... [23:29:49] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: TemplateData editor fails catastrophically when data contains $1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127898#2058065 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:5Triage>3High [23:30:24] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: TemplateData editor fails catastrophically when data contains $1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127898#2057888 (10Catrope) Suggested workaround: make all subexpressions in the regex non-capturing: ``` 'foo $1 bar'.replace( /(?:)(?:[\s\S]*?)(?:<\/t>)/, ' new $... [23:30:32] 10Cite, 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10Graph, 10MediaWiki-API: gzipped page props - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127225#2058071 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:34] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 13Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2016-03-01_(1.27.0-wmf.15): Draggable list not working as expected in TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127203#2058072 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:36] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Table should not be sortable for one parameter only - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126150#2058074 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:38] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: List TemplateData jsduck documentation on doc.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126951#2058073 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:41] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: TemplateData editor should sort unnamed parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125420#2058075 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:43] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Please support, or document a best practice, for sharing TemplateData among multiple templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125109#2058078 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:44] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Support a given subpage as the "official" documentation subpage for templates, to avoid duplicate TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125222#2058077 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:46] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Remove Default, Example and Auto value section of the TemplateData description cell if no information is provided - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125333#2058076 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:48] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Suggestion: TemplateData parameter type of "Regex" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125101#2058080 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:51] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Alternate layouts for TemplateData display - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125105#2058081 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:52] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: Defer compression of templatedata property - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124880#2058082 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:55] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10OOjs-UI, 7Accessibility, 13Patch-For-Review: OOUI's dropdown should be usable from the keyboard, without the mouse - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124825#2058083 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:30:57] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Template Documentation Editor does not understand #tag parser function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124338#2058084 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:37:31] 10WikiEditor: Fallback messages get shown on RTL wikis with LTR user interface language - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73661#2058149 (10TheDJ) Pinging @Ladsgroup, maybe he knows why ar.wp does this, or someone else who might know. It's outside the purview of phabricator really, but keeping it open for just... [23:41:15] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MobileFrontend, 13Patch-For-Review, 3Reading-Web-Sprint-67-i: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2058155 (10Jdlrobson) @jcrespo it's hard to know for sure but based on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125329#2004919 where the wors...