[00:00:54] just noticed that when you hover over a focusable node and type, it doesn't move the highlight [00:01:16] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Defer before restoring scroll position, and allow 0 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284344 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131791) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:03:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22): VisualEditor scrolls downward on page load/context change in IE 10/11 (but not Edge) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131791#2221380 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:... [00:04:27] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 13Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: Drag-and-drop in IE9 doesn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75240#2221398 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:04:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 13Patch-For-Review: VisualEditor: Test whether paste binding needs "beforepaste" for MSIE compatibility - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714#2221399 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:04:31] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2221397 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:05:01] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2219769 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:05:03] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22): Support paste in MSIE 9, 10 using "beforepaste" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714#702169 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders [00:07:26] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: Fix node drop in IE9 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284361 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75240) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:07:38] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Fix node drop in IE9 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284361 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75240) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:07:51] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix pasting in IE<=10 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284206 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:08:00] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2221422 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [00:08:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22): VisualEditor: Drag-and-drop in IE9 doesn't work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75240#2221417 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders [00:08:19] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Clicking off a focusable node in IE<=11 throws a 'Nested change of newModelSelection' exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104#2221423 (10Jdforrester-WMF) p:05Triage>03Normal [00:10:27] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Remove IE9 from blacklist, but don't add to whitelist (yet) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284160 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:10:44] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 04-1] "Not until rest of blocked tasks are marked fixed." [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284160 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094) (owner: 10Esanders) [00:13:39] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix node drop in IE9 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284361 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75240) (owner: 10Esanders) [01:10:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Calendar input widget for dates in template parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100206#2221561 (10AlexMonk-WMF) >>! In T100206#2197774, @AlexMonk-WMF wrote: > `mw.widgets.datetime.DateTimeInputWidget.prototype.getValueAsDate` only appears to retur... [01:55:07] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 07Browser-Support-Microsoft-Edge, 07Technical-Debt: Check if IE hacks are still required in Edge - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111081#1593778 (10GOIII) Fwiw.... You can access a "secret page" of additional features by typing `about:flags` in Edge... [05:34:05] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons: please enable edit, edit source on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132760#2221705 (10ThurnerRupert) 05declined>03Open could you add a link please? why would one want to make 2 clicks out of one? who decided this, with involving whom? the only item i... [06:15:51] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate: extension usability issues for editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131516#2221779 (10Nemo_bis) [06:19:10] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate: extension usability issues for editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131516#2221782 (10Nemo_bis) Given the shift in focus of this report, I propose to change the summary to "Invent automatic segmentation in transla... [07:32:34] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10ContentTranslation-cxserver, 06Operations, and 3 others: Decom legacy ex-parsoidcache cxserver, citoid, and restbase service hostnames - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133001#2221836 (10mobrovac) [08:57:23] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons: please enable edit, edit source on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132760#2209670 (10Qgil) There is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Szfpjd08my4nzjr8, which is a topic open in the forum to propose / announce changes to mediawiki.org. No feedback, no... [09:05:55] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate: extension usability issues for editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131516#2221969 (10Nikerabbit) >>! In T131516#2221782, @Nemo_bis wrote: > Given the shift in focus of this report, I propose to change the summary... [09:35:47] 10VisualEditor: Links to draft etc. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133143#2222179 (10Magioladitis) [10:33:55] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 13Patch-For-Review, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2222562 (10Esanders) [10:34:30] (03CR) 10Esanders: "the blocking tasks aren't really blockers - especially as this is only greylist" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284160 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094) (owner: 10Esanders) [10:35:43] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 13Patch-For-Review, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2219769 (10Esanders) [10:35:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: VisualEditor: Save dialog throws "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read get getModel of undefined" (IE9) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T64334#2222564 (10Esanders) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Esanders Works now. [10:37:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22): Support paste in MSIE 9, 10 using "beforepaste" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714#2222573 (10Esanders) the chageset isn't really to do with 'beforepaste', but I don't think... [10:37:21] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22): Support paste in MSIE 9, 10. Check if we need to use "beforepaste". - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714#2222574 (10Esanders) [10:38:00] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove comment about testing 'beforepaste', not required [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284438 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714) [10:38:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: VisualEditor: IE9 places cursor inside ce=false table cell - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65046#2222577 (10Esanders) [10:39:48] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Clicking off a focusable node in IE<=11 throws a 'Nested change of newModelSelection' exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104#2222580 (10Esanders) p:05Normal>03High [10:40:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Clicking off a focusable node in IE<=11 throws a 'Nested change of newModelSelection' exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104#2220216 (10Esanders) [10:40:15] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 13Patch-For-Review, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2222582 (10Esanders) [10:40:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Clicking off a focusable node in IE<=11 throws a 'Nested change of newModelSelection' exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104#2220216 (10Esanders) 05duplicate>03Open [10:40:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Clicking off a focusable node in IE<=11 throws a 'Nested change of newModelSelection' exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104#2220216 (10Esanders) [10:40:43] 10VisualEditor, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer, 13Patch-For-Review, 07user-notice: Support MSIE 9 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133094#2219769 (10Esanders) [11:20:45] 10VisualEditor: "Insert paragraph" won't show up where user expects it to - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128622#2222722 (10Elitre) 05declined>03Open Except they don't appear. Can we get a slug between two headings when the sections are empty? [11:21:40] 10VisualEditor: Slugs not appearing where user needs them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128622#2222724 (10Elitre) [11:25:03] 10VisualEditor: Slugs not appearing where user needs them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128622#2222726 (10Elitre) [11:25:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: Clicking off a focusable node in IE<=11 throws a 'Nested change of newModelSelection' exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104#2222727 (10Esanders) It seems that when moving the native selection from the focus n... [11:33:44] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Debounce selection change events to avoid nested model changes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284445 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104) [12:15:21] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons: please enable edit, edit source on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132760#2222866 (10ThurnerRupert) there was no complaint about the two tabs. the german wikipedia finally voted for switching it on because of the two tabs. so why on earth you open this b... [13:07:15] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Page-editing, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate: extension usability issues for editing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131516#2223166 (10Nikerabbit) p:05Triage>03High [13:36:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates: Calendar input widget for dates in template parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100206#2223384 (10matmarex) >>! In T100206#2221561, @AlexMonk-WMF wrote: >>>! In T100206#2197815, @AlexMonk-WMF wrote: >> The calendar only opens below the input which... [15:05:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2223727 (10matmarex) Indeed, in theory. In practice, since we're still using ancient ;) technology of pixel-based screens, and so scaling small SVGs up by less th... [15:11:27] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Remove comment about testing 'beforepaste', not required [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284438 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:14:49] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Debounce selection change events to avoid nested model changes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284445 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:16:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove comment about testing 'beforepaste', not required [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284438 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67714) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:17:27] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons: please enable edit, edit source on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132760#2223773 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03declined [15:18:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2223791 (10Volker_E) So it's the anti-aliasing of SVGs (below a certain threshold) on non-retina displays. I can confirm that on a retina desktop display this is... [15:24:39] (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 032] Debounce selection change events to avoid nested model changes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284445 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:27:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Debounce selection change events to avoid nested model changes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284445 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133104) (owner: 10Esanders) [16:03:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Plugins, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ProofreadPage, and 3 others: Create a VisualEditor plugin to integrate with ProofreadPage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T48580#2223983 (10coren) >>! In T48580#2214028, @Ankry wrote: > We are still waitn... [16:04:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2212572 (10Esanders) Yes - the source of the issue is most of our icons are hand-designed to snap to the 24px grid - which makes them look really crisp on regular... [16:16:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2224043 (10matmarex) >>! In T132864#2223987, @Esanders wrote: > I'm not sure the outline needs to be 1.1em (we rarely change the font size in OOUI), but if it mus... [16:35:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2224108 (10Volker_E) Was thinking about that option myself as first reaction, one issue is, that everything scales up with the `1.1em` so also the height of the c... [16:41:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI, 13Patch-For-Review: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2212572 (10DLynch) Original: {F3899822} That patch: {F3899825} [16:51:07] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons: please enable edit, edit source on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132760#2224179 (10ThurnerRupert) 05declined>03Open added feedback + opposition now to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Szfpjd08my4nzjr8 ... [17:36:36] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI, 13Patch-For-Review: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2224360 (10Volker_E) @DLynch Doesn't that take us on the same unresolved [[ https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/details/816709/ | sub-... [17:40:53] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI, 13Patch-For-Review: Blurry enlarged icons in dialog outline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132864#2224374 (10Volker_E) @DLynch Will check it out on my non-retina Windows machine. [17:43:29] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI, 07Browser-Support-Firefox: Blurry icons in the Transclusion dialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132862#2224392 (10matmarex) [19:37:30] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 06Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, and 3 others: Re-label the "Save" button to be "Publish", to better indicate to users the outcomes of their action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132#2224999 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [21:08:52] 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht: Review Q3 work via Phabricator task reporting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132967#2225431 (10JAufrecht) [21:47:12] (03PS7) 10Alex Monk: Add a popup after switching into VE from WTE [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/283120 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131066) [21:59:02] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons: please enable edit, edit source on mediawiki.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132760#2209670 (10wctaiwan) When I first click Edit without having set a preference, I am presented with a dialogue box that asks which editor I want to use, which also includes the optio... [21:59:29] James_F, we wanted a button on that popup like the one in reverse, right? [22:04:24] 10VisualEditor, 07Design: Improve citation / Citoid workflow in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130148#2225597 (10wctaiwan) 05declined>03Open I hope I can get a response to my previous comment. [22:06:15] James_F: Krenair: has the fix for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130757 landed last week on all wikis? [22:06:28] we plan to enable redirects in rb next week [22:06:59] the commit page lists wmf/1.27.0-wmf.21 under 'Included In' [22:07:13] uh my grammar's bad which probably means i should shut down this computer [22:07:37] Krenair: i know, but call me sceptic, but i trust people more than i do phab labels :P [22:07:39] 1.27.0-wmf.21 is the branch that's deployed [22:07:50] it's not a phab label, this the list on the gerrit page [22:07:56] ah kk [22:08:11] mobrovac: (Yes, it's live everywhere in WMF prod.) [22:08:54] `ssh tin mwversionsinuse` is helpful [22:09:34] * mobrovac `ssh bed 'sleep 7*3600'` :P [22:09:43] thnx for the tip Krenair [22:09:53] good night mobrovac :) [22:49:17] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.22] Double check mark appearing next to "Heading" and "Page Title", also cursor is not appearing on that line automatically - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133227#2225686 (10Ryasmeen) [22:57:48] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.22] Cant add a new line in VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133229#2225720 (10Ryasmeen) [22:59:26] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.22] Cant add a new line in VE, also the cursor position is wrong - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133229#2225747 (10Ryasmeen) [23:01:35] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.22] Cant add a new line in VE, also the cursor position is wrong - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133229#2225756 (10Ryasmeen) Maybe its related with the problem of cursor acting weirdly, I cant also put the cursor at the end of any focusable node. [23:05:27] 10VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf.22] Cant add a new line in VE, also the cursor position is wrong - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133229#2225783 (10Ryasmeen) p:05Triage>03High Another case where its wrongly positioned {F3900695} [23:40:02] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: Link dialog: do basic URI validation (031 comment) [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/141367 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30789) (owner: 10TheDJ) [23:42:08] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Link dialog: do basic URI validation (031 comment) [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/141367 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30789) (owner: 10TheDJ) [23:50:15] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (bf91965) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/284616