[00:21:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 07Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 15User-Josve05a: On svwiki, cursor disappears when all content is deleted (due to gadget/config?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131203#2241791 (10Esanders) Using random page it appears... [01:14:56] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Split up editor preferences into VE and source parts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133287#2227089 (10Danny_B) Maybe group the relevant stuff in fieldsets? [01:31:30] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Security-General: Providing both HTTPS as protocol and 443 as port makes citoid fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133497#2241831 (10jeblad) Yes, I got the correct page. Attached the source of the page. {F3934513} [01:42:18] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: [C: 04-1] "The issue I raised on patch set 7 is still present." (031 comment) [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/141367 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30789) (owner: 10TheDJ) [02:03:25] (03PS4) 10Divec: ce.Surface#showModelSelection: Update cursor holders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285335 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131674) [02:05:34] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] ce.Surface#showModelSelection: Update cursor holders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285335 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131674) (owner: 10Divec) [02:30:25] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media: Insert images, lose citations? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133475#2241849 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) No more details. She's a brand-new editor, and it was almost a week ago, so I'm not hopeful about getting more information at this... [02:36:55] 10VisualEditor: Loading of editor should not be blocked on the editor preference getting saved - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133758#2241850 (10ori) [03:28:24] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Split up editor preferences into VE and source parts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133287#2241886 (10Dvorapa) @Danny_B That could be an option too [03:29:22] (03PS5) 10DLynch: ve.ui.TabbableElements: JS replacement for unreliable tabIndex [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282964 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129792) [03:37:46] (03CR) 10DLynch: ve.ui.TabbableElements: JS replacement for unreliable tabIndex (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282964 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129792) (owner: 10DLynch) [04:01:47] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable: Can't cursor onto inline alien at boundary of paragraph in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610#2241900 (10dchan) This is caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267906 , which means all versions of Firefox still need the src attrib... [04:02:19] (03PS1) 10Divec: Reinstate Firefox img hack for versions >= 38 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285579 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610) [04:03:07] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Firefox, 07Performance, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22): Disable contentEditable-img-src workaround for Firefox >= 38 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132819#2211295 (10dchan) It seems the Firefox fix is still needed in version... [05:33:12] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, and 2 others: [Regression] Users can no longer edit reference features of citations to e.g. change their group or add {{openaccess}} or {{deadlink}} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133255#2241957 (10jayvdb) [08:31:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 07Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 15User-Josve05a: On svwiki, cursor disappears when all content is deleted (due to gadget/config?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131203#2242196 (10Josve05a) >>! In T131203#2241607, @Jdfo... [09:18:26] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 06Community-Liaisons, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2016: Consider helping some smaller Wikipedias' communities (which?) by writing the TemplateData to enable citoid for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127354#2242264 (10Trizek-WMF) a:03Tri... [09:19:02] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, 06Community-Liaisons, 10Wikimania-Hackathon-2016: Consider helping some smaller Wikipedias' communities (which?) by writing the TemplateData to enable citoid for them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127354#2242267 (10Trizek-WMF) p:05Low... [09:21:13] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] Reinstate Firefox img hack for versions >= 38 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285579 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610) (owner: 10Divec) [09:26:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Reinstate Firefox img hack for versions >= 38 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285579 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610) (owner: 10Divec) [11:09:42] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 06Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, and 5 others: Re-label the "Save" button to be "Publish", to better indicate to users the outcomes of their action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132#2156848 (10Xaosflux) If this is being changed in core, surely... [11:44:06] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 06Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, and 5 others: Re-label the "Save" button to be "Publish", to better indicate to users the outcomes of their action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132#2242558 (10TheDJ) @Xaosflux everything is translatable and all... [12:08:10] 10VisualEditor, 10WikiEditor, 06Editing-Department, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, and 5 others: Re-label the "Save" button to be "Publish", to better indicate to users the outcomes of their action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132#2156848 (10Dispenser) This was noted by [[https://usability.wi... [12:17:40] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Security-General: Providing both HTTPS as protocol and 443 as port makes citoid fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133497#2233381 (10mobrovac) There are two problems here for the URL `https://bibsys-almaprimo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com:443/BIBSYS:default_scope:BIBSYS_ILS71491... [12:22:16] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Providing both HTTPS as protocol and 443 as port makes citoid fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133497#2242616 (10Mvolz) [12:26:32] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 06Operations, 06Services: NIH db misbehaviour causing problems to Citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133696#2242619 (10mobrovac) >>! In T133696#2241618, @Mvolz wrote: > As I said in chat, we currently look up a pmid for every citation that has a doi. We could easily stop... [14:21:31] Hello everyone. Actually, I was trying to make an extension so that visualeditor may work offline. Any ideas on how can I do it? [14:31:57] uhh [14:32:06] what do you mean? [14:33:45] 10VisualEditor, 06Editing-Department: Loading of editor should not be blocked on the editor preference getting saved - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133758#2242931 (10Zppix) a:03Zppix ill take this on [14:51:54] Making an extension that would cache the webpage temporarily, and in case network goes down, it would still work and as soon as the network comes, it would edit it [14:52:01] just a basic overview [14:53:49] we rely on extra data that parsoid provides [14:56:16] okay [14:56:39] can you suggest something? How could I do it? [15:00:41] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] ce.Surface#showModelSelection: Update cursor holders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285335 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131674) (owner: 10Divec) [15:01:01] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] build: Bump devDependencies to latest [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282978 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:06:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: ce.Surface#showModelSelection: Update cursor holders [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285335 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131674) (owner: 10Divec) [15:06:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bump devDependencies to latest [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282978 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:09:38] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-01_(1.27.0-wmf.23): In Chrome/ium, block images skipped when cursoring right but not when cursoring left - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131674#2243045 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [15:33:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Front-end-Standards-Group, 10OOjs-UI: Change OOUI MediaWiki theme to be optimized for font-size of 14px (0.875em×16px), instead of 12.8px (0.8em×16px), like MediaWiki Vector skin - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97631#1248353 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Note that fon... [15:42:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-01_(1.27.0-wmf.23): Can't cursor onto inline alien at boundary of paragraph in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610#2243126 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03dchan [15:42:51] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Reinstate Firefox img hack for versions >= 38 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285661 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610) [15:43:02] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Reinstate Firefox img hack for versions >= 38 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285661 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610) (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:43:59] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-26_(1.27.0-wmf.22), 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-01_(1.27.0-wmf.23): Can't cursor onto inline alien at boundary of paragraph in Firefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610#2243131 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [15:47:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Reinstate Firefox img hack for versions >= 38 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285661 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133610) (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:19:20] 10Cite, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web, 10Reading-Web-Planning, 03Reading-Web-Sprint-72-N: Create Special:Citations fallback for non-JavaScript/Resourceloader unsupported users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125897#2243298 (10MBinder_WMF) [16:22:56] 10VisualEditor, 10Reading-Web, 10Vector: "Edit" tab should take precedence over "Read" in Vector on narrow screens even when secondary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113157#2243429 (10MBinder_WMF) [16:37:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Loading of editor should not be blocked on the editor preference getting saved - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133758#2243911 (10matmarex) [17:33:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Initialisation, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, and 6 others: Store & load data-mw separately - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78676#2244166 (10Arlolra) a:05Arlolra>03None [17:50:51] Hm [17:51:12] The newest visual editor (master) doesn't work on master mediawiki for me? Followed troubleshooting steps. No visible errors and no informaton in parsoid log [17:51:53] I've reverted to commit d5ef085 (the last time i pulled updates) [18:12:17] PuppyKun: Nothing in the MW log or JS console? [18:23:59] James_F: I'll have to enable mediawiki debugging again to check those logs [18:24:04] not sure what you mean by JS console [18:24:27] PuppyKun: In your browser, right click and press "Inspect" or whatever (depends on the browser). [18:24:42] That will bring up your JavaScript console where errors / etc. will be printed. [18:35:55] interesting [18:36:29] James_F: I git pull'd visual editor and mediawiki master and it kept working until I forced a refresh of the page (ctrl+shift+r, normal page changes and refreshes kept working) [18:36:52] the chrome console now displays MW Exceptions and this "load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.init|ext.visualEditor.su…:3 VisualEditor failed to load: Error: Module ext.visualEditor.core has failed dependencies" [18:37:14] failed dependencies? thats a warning not an error.. i'll enable debugging and see what the mw exceptions are [18:39:09] James_F: MWException from line 811 of /var/www/html/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderFileModule.php: ResourceLoaderFileModule::readScriptFiles: script file not found: "/var/www/html/extensions/VisualEditor/lib/ve/src/ve.PositionStep.js" [18:41:49] and it's something between these commits. VE works when I reset it to my previous pull, and it still works with mediawiki master [18:41:49] Updating d5ef085..0ec13e0 [18:51:00] PuppyKun: Ah. You'll need to load the git submodule too. [18:51:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Download [18:51:32] git submodule update [18:57:38] James_F: I had done that before but apparently needed to do it again after using git pull [18:57:48] tyvm :) working beautifully with newest version again [18:58:03] Excellent. [18:58:11] Sorry, it's a bit complex. [18:58:48] It's no problem :) what I get for using master xD [18:58:56] I'm a sysadmin over at miraheze.org so I probably should have realized that [18:59:02] but there's a reason we use release branches there [18:59:48] :-) [19:04:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Add "this is how to switch" education message to the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133800#2244591 (10Whatamidoing-WMF) [19:44:33] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Make it possible to push the cite menu into the "insert" (other) toolbar bucket - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133727#2244710 (10AlexMonk-WMF) [20:06:09] 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Make it possible to push the cite menu into the "insert" (other) toolbar bucket - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133727#2244747 (10AlexMonk-WMF) a:03AlexMonk-WMF [23:03:39] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-ContentEditable, 07Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 07Browser-Support-Google-Chrome, 15User-Josve05a: On svwiki, cursor disappears when all content is deleted (due to gadget/config?) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131203#2159165 (10Nirmos) >>! In T131203#2241791, @Esande... [23:17:31] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (39d281e) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285768 [23:19:40] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to wmf/1.27.0-wmf.22 HEAD (3d75644) [extensions/VisualEditor] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.22) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285769