[00:10:50] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid: If a ref-tag uses the "follow" attribute it will be corrupted in VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135091#2291496 (10jeblad) Agree with @Esanders, but perhaps for a different reason. The effect is wird, and little unpredictable when wikitext is copy-pasted.  Note also...
[00:35:09] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector: Input method and the situation at nowiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135092#2291519 (10jeblad) For one and another quote it might work, but there are several chars and looking up the chars all the time is rather cumbersome.  Anyhow, I c...
[01:31:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Combining hatnotes and headings breaks formatting - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135202#2291613 (10Krenair)
[04:03:19] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-extensions-UniversalLanguageSelector: Input method and the situation at nowiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135092#2291730 (10Elitre) 05Open>03Invalid Copy/import an existing one (the German for example) and just remove what you don't need from there - if you want to use...
[04:29:00] <Elitre>	 James_F, Krenair, (if you're around) when will https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133800 land on Wikipedias and sister projects, and what's the problem with translations (" it's wmf.2 so none of the LU caches in prod will have it.")? Since we seem unable to avoid non-SET-wikis as well, where this is not really needed yet, I want to make sure the message they
[04:29:00] <Elitre>	 see is translated at least - so I want to spread the word about it a bit. Thanks.
[04:29:53] <James_F>	 Elite: It'll go out on Tuesday in the train. 
[04:30:30] <Elitre>	 so Thursday is the actual day?
[04:30:46] <James_F>	 Because it involves a new i18n message it will take a bit to get into production correctly if we do it sooner.
[04:30:48] <James_F>	 Yes.
[04:30:59] <James_F>	 It'll be translated fine if we wait.
[04:31:23] <Elitre>	 how long should we wait?
[04:36:24] <Elitre>	 also, what's the actual message(s?) I should point out?
[04:40:48] <Elitre>	 uhm, maybe I figured the last bit out.
[05:01:07] <James_F>	 Wait for the train, I mean.
[05:01:24] <James_F>	 Technically we could push it after Tuesday lunchtime.
[12:30:12] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, and 2 others: (regression) Enable every citation to be editable as basic citation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134183#2292293 (10Trizek-WMF) Discussion on French Wikipedia ended to "why are we supposed to change...
[13:49:21] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10Graphoid, 06Operations, 06Services, 10service-template-node: SCA services should not use a proxy for our domains - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97530#2292480 (10mobrovac)
[13:52:18] <wikibugs>	 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10Graphoid, 06Operations, and 3 others: SCB services should not use a proxy for our domains - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97530#2292481 (10mobrovac)
[13:54:34] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, and 2 others: (regression) Enable every citation to be editable as basic citation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134183#2292530 (10Esanders) CSS? No I mean an extra argument so instead of  `<ref>{{Cite web|foo=bar}...
[14:03:30] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: For users that ignore instructions, provide a second "this is how to switch editors" pop-up inside VisualEditor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128781#2292566 (10Elitre) (Later implemented in T131066.)
[14:04:46] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Enable single edit tab on enwiki and review - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131130#2292575 (10Elitre)
[14:21:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Esanders: Use new action test runner [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288175 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90370) 
[14:36:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Use new action test runner [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288175 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90370) (owner: 10Esanders)
[14:38:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] ve.ui.TabbableElements: provide a scope for tabIndex [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282964 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129792) (owner: 10DLynch)
[14:43:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use new action test runner [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288175 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90370) (owner: 10Esanders)
[15:15:54] <aletundo>	 How can I toggle a linearContextItem? I mean as I click outside.. I tried to toggle but it isn't toggled the pop-up, just the content 
[15:17:35] <aletundo>	 I toggle this.content.pupop but it sounds a little bit hackly, cause then I have to click more than 1 time on the annotation to render the context item again
[15:19:42] <wikibugs>	 10Cite, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-References, and 2 others: (regression) Enable every citation to be editable as basic citation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134183#2292811 (10Trizek-WMF) There two different things now.   **Suffix** That suffix idea [[ https:...
[15:47:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS11) 10DLynch: ve.ui.TabIndexScope: provide a scope for tabIndex [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282964 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129792) 
[16:12:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS20) 10Esanders: [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) 
[16:17:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders)
[16:30:33] <Krinkle>	 Getting HTTP 400 from docserver-http when saving a page on mediawiki.org in VE 
[16:30:36] <Krinkle>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/HyperSwitch?action=edit
[16:30:41] <Krinkle>	 {"servedby":"mw1197","error":{"code":"400","info":"docserver-http: HTTP 400","*":"See https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php for API usage"}}
[16:30:46] <Krinkle>	 {"servedby":"mw1199","error":{"code":"400","info":"docserver-http: HTTP 400","*":"See https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php for API usage"}}
[16:31:46] <Krinkle>	 I can't switch to source mode either. That requests gets the same error (except the UI doesn't account for it it seems, to the dialog indefinitely stays in disabled/loading.. mode)
[16:36:09] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Save page or Switch to source fails in VisualEditor ("docserver-http: HTTP 400") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135247#2293016 (10Krinkle)
[16:38:11] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Save page or Switch to source fails in VisualEditor ("docserver-http: HTTP 400") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135247#2293032 (10Krinkle)
[16:51:01] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Add the "welcome" dialog (with button to switch) to the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133800#2293065 (10Elitre) I need additional information to communicate with some comm...
[16:58:42] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Add the "welcome" dialog (with button to switch) to the wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133800#2293071 (10Jdforrester-WMF) No, the "haven't edited in > 30 days" is just anot...
[16:59:08] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Save page or Switch to source fails in VisualEditor ("docserver-http: HTTP 400") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135247#2293016 (10AlexMonk-WMF) Saving WFM
[17:21:57] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Parsoid, 10RESTBase: Save page or Switch to source fails in VisualEditor ("docserver-http: HTTP 400") - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135247#2293016 (10GWicke) Was this restricted to  https://www.mediawiki.org/api/rest_v1/page/html/HyperSwitch? If so, then t...
[17:31:49] <edsanders>	 aletundo: why would you want to toggle the context item - that should all be handled automatically
[17:51:24] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht: Plan activities for VE offsite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134919#2293182 (10JAufrecht)
[17:59:02] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2293234 (10coren) >>! In T483#2289895, @GWicke wrote: > Adding the parsing team, as this would introduce page-global state, and also needs to work in Parsoid an...
[18:24:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Esanders: "Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgd2ZHOZGBE" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders)
[18:25:44] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2293299 (10Esanders) Demo of the current WIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgd2ZHOZGBE
[18:27:32] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2293301 (10Nirzar) that looks really good <3
[18:28:37] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht: Plan activities for VE offsite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134919#2282234 (10Esanders) Can we create a private doc for this?
[18:32:03] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 15User-JAufrecht: Plan activities for VE offsite - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134919#2293307 (10JAufrecht) Just started one.
[18:32:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2293325 (10Trizek-WMF) I want it on my wiki! <3
[18:34:00] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Design, 07Epic, 13Patch-For-Review: Provide a modern wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479#2293326 (10Paladox) @esanders that looks really good. It also merges wikieditor editor into visualeditor which makes developing it much easyer since...
[18:36:42] <James_F>	 edsanders: You're such a show-off. :-)
[19:14:39] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2293454 (10GWicke) @coren: When implemented as proposed here, Parsoid and VisualEditor both would need to reimplement the same logic independently. Additionally...
[19:44:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jforrester: MWTemplateDialog: When opening the dialog, add in any unset suggested and required parameters [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288650 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97482) 
[19:47:55] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2293575 (10coren) >>! In T483#2293454, @GWicke wrote: > All modern browsers support <link rel="stylesheet"> in the body  It's not immediately clear to me what t...
[19:51:33] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor: Impossible to reload CAPTCHA on visual editor when saving - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135263#2293586 (10Trizek)
[19:53:15] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2293604 (10GWicke) > It's not immediately clear to me what the fundamental difference is between that and the current scheme (a <style> tag in the header)?  The...
[19:59:40] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 10RESTBase: VisualEditor should load data-mw from a separate API call alongside the body content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88623#2293616 (10Arlolra)
[19:59:47] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Initialisation, 10VisualEditor-Performance, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, and 6 others: Store & load data-mw separately - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78676#2293617 (10Arlolra)
[21:38:16] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294104 (10Volker_E) >>! In T483#2289858, @TheDJ wrote: > I was thinking a bit about variance, maintainability etc. And in the mobile-friendly content meeting w...
[21:42:47] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294111 (10Volker_E) >>! In T483#2293454, @GWicke wrote: >             href="data:text/css;base64,I213MTIzNDUgeyBjb2xvcjogcmVkIH0="> Just as side-note: Why woul...
[22:23:25] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294262 (10GWicke) > Just as side-note: Why would you base64 text? That might result in more data over the wire –after gzipping– like with SVGs laid out here....
[22:34:46] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294327 (10matmarex) We do care about IE 8, and even IE 6, as allowing users to view the site with correct styling is a basic core feature of MediaWiki, and the...
[22:37:02] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294331 (10matmarex) @gwicke Are you suggesting that we duplicate the template stylesheet for every template invocation? That's crazy, and it would be literally...
[22:52:57] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294366 (10GWicke) @matmarex, do you expect a drastic increase in the size of the CSS associated with templates? If anything, being able to migrate some inline...
[22:57:06] <wikibugs>	 10VisualEditor, 10ArchCom-RfC, 06Parsing-Team, 10TemplateStyles, 07RfC: RfC: Allow styling in templates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T483#2294370 (10GWicke) > We do care about IE 8, and even IE 6  The read-only JS fix for IE8 would work in earlier IE versions as well.