[00:15:16] 10Cite, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 10Reading-Web-Planning, and 2 others: Create Special:Citations fallback for non-JavaScript/Resourceloader unsupported users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125897#2299626 (10Jdlrobson) [02:52:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Improve how VisualEditor reports read-only mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129964#2299757 (10AlexMonk-WMF) Yeah, I think we're doing as much parsing as possible without sending our error message back to the server so it can be parsed for display. [05:33:31] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Support a given subpage as the "official" documentation subpage for templates, to avoid duplicate TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125222#2299954 (10Elitre) quoting from description, "I know you display a warning about it on the template page" - which kind of wa... [08:42:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Provide mechanism to A/B test VE vs. WT as default editor for a proportion of IPs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135478#2300274 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [11:14:00] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Support a given subpage as the "official" documentation subpage for templates, to avoid duplicate TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125222#2300789 (10maiden_taiwan) If you have the [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateData | TemplateData extension... [11:24:24] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: [WIP] build: Enable a bunch of other stylelint rules [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288925 [11:28:02] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] build: Enable a bunch of other stylelint rules [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288925 (owner: 10Jforrester) [11:28:39] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: stylelint: Require leading zeros, no trailing zeros, unitless zeros [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289173 [11:29:35] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Add stylelint rules for @-rules [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289176 [11:30:18] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Add stylelint rules for @-rules [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289176 (owner: 10Esanders) [11:37:08] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor: Support a given subpage as the "official" documentation subpage for templates, to avoid duplicate TemplateData - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125222#2300807 (10Elitre) I can see a yellow banner at the [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_news&action=... [11:39:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: IE9 doesn't support repeating gradients - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135497#2300811 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [11:42:34] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add stylelint rules for @-rules [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289176 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:00:49] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: stylelint: Enforce a specific ordering of CSS attributes [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289180 [12:01:33] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Stylelint: Add rule for unsupported browser features [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289181 [12:03:39] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Stylelint: Add rule for unsupported browser features [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289181 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:09:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Stylelint: Add rule for unsupported browser features [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289181 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:11:26] (03PS1) 10Esanders: [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289184 [12:13:40] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-EditingTools, 07Browser-Support-Internet-Explorer: IE9 doesn't support repeating gradients - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135497#2300875 (10Danny_B) Some further description would be appreciated... [12:16:31] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Fix minimum Opera version (15 -> 12) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289186 [12:26:34] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Fix minimum Opera version (15 -> 12) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289186 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:28:01] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove remaining references to csslint [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289187 [12:28:10] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: stylelint: Comment uses of 'unsupported' browser CSS features [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289184 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:28:16] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] stylelint: Comment uses of 'unsupported' browser CSS features [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289184 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:28:56] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove remaining references to csslint [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289188 [12:29:00] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Remove remaining references to csslint [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289187 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:29:51] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Stylelint: No ID selectors [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289189 [12:30:30] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Stylelint: No ID selectors [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289189 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:31:59] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix minimum Opera version (15 -> 12) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289186 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:35:35] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: build: Remove remaining references to csslint [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289188 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:35:45] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] build: Remove remaining references to csslint [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289188 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:37:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: stylelint: Comment uses of 'unsupported' browser CSS features [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289184 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:41:21] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Renable stylelint features by names [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289192 [12:41:23] (03PS1) 10Esanders: [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 [12:41:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove remaining references to csslint [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289187 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:41:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Stylelint: No ID selectors [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289189 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:41:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Remove remaining references to csslint [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289188 (owner: 10Esanders) [12:45:24] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 (owner: 10Esanders) [13:34:35] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Editing tabs" dialog (SET first-time information) is too small for translated button labels to fit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130021#2301080 (10Elitre) @quimGil reports seeing this problem at en.wiki as well. [14:00:43] MatmaRex: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130021 is a problem also when one is trying to retrieve the system messages strings using uselang=qqx. Do you think this is worth reporting separately? TY [14:02:31] hmm, no, i think that bug would cover it [14:03:21] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: stylelint: Re-enable features by names [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289192 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:03:30] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] stylelint: Re-enable features by names [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289192 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:04:11] ok, I'll comment there then. [14:04:27] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Move stylelint to npm [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289208 [14:06:28] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Move stylelint to npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 [14:06:37] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Editing tabs" dialog (SET first-time information) is too small for translated button labels to fit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130021#2301149 (10Elitre) This problem is particularly annoying when I'm trying to retrieve the system messages string using uselang... [14:10:53] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move stylelint to npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:11:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: stylelint: Re-enable features by names [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289192 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:21:19] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Move stylelint to npm [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289208 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:22:01] edsanders: i connected an handler for the save event using ve.init.target.connect(this, {save: 'onSaveCompleted'}) , but what i do in onSaveCompleted function is fired twice. In fact if i use the debugger the event is connected twice. I added the handler into the constructor of the Tool, here you can see the code: http://pastebin.com/7yyrT7et what's wrong? [14:23:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move stylelint to npm [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289208 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:29:23] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Remove useless default option [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 [14:30:20] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: stylelint: Remove useless default option [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:30:27] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] stylelint: Remove useless default option [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:30:29] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Bump styleline version [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289215 [14:30:31] (03PS3) 10Esanders: Bump stylelint version [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 [14:31:23] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Bump stylelint version [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:34:59] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Bump styleline version [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289215 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:42:32] aletundo: that doesn't seem like a good idea [14:42:58] tools are just small bits of UI [14:43:27] also why do you need a save event? the annotations will be saved in the HTML as s automatically [14:44:19] yes i know, but i have to store them into an external db.. so i want to catch that event and trasfer data [14:45:05] edsanders: it's better to write another script that handle event? [14:46:39] what do you need to store in the external db? [14:51:02] the same data i store into data-* attributes and other, i must have to do this for future works [14:54:00] (03PS4) 10Jforrester: build: Bump stylelint version to v0.2.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:54:18] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] build: Bump stylelint version to v0.2.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:58:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Bump stylelint version to v0.2.0 [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289214 (owner: 10Esanders) [14:59:38] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: build: Use grunt-stylelint from npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:00:12] edsanders: moreover i'm deciding to not use parsoid to parse span and it's attributes and reder them as i want (read-mode, not edit), but i prefer to contact the db, get data etc...that's another reason why i have to use a db.. i know it isn't easy to make me understand..i'm not really good at english, you did not clear the scenery and because of my choices [15:03:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] build: Use grunt-stylelint from npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:24:49] (03PS3) 10Esanders: build: Use grunt-stylelint from npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 [15:27:44] (03Abandoned) 10Esanders: Bump styleline version [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289215 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:28:18] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 031] build: Use grunt-stylelint from npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:31:37] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] build: Use grunt-stylelint from npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 (owner: 10Esanders) [15:38:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: Use grunt-stylelint from npm [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289210 (owner: 10Esanders) [16:54:24] an IP seems to have difficulties in using VE in IE7. [16:54:29] (at ja.wp) [16:54:43] 10Cite, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 03Reading-Web-Sprint-72-Ninety-nine-problems-but-Nirzar-aint-one, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Create Special:Citations fallback for non-JavaScript/Resourceloader unsupported users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125897#2301675 (10Jdlrobson) [17:08:23] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: stylelint: Use the preset rather than extending [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289242 [17:08:48] Elitre: They shouldn't be able to access it at all – it's IE9+. [17:09:56] James_F: they're getting some kind of error. I can copy/paste, but it's probably better if I ask Miya to translate first. [17:10:07] * James_F nods. [17:10:09] That's odd. [17:10:38] James_F: once the Welcome message is deployed, which namespace is Wikisource going to get it on? [17:12:15] (03CR) 10Esanders: [C: 032] stylelint: Use the preset rather than extending [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289242 (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:19:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: stylelint: Use the preset rather than extending [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289242 (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:19:27] (03PS2) 10Esanders: [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 [17:20:24] (03PS3) 10Esanders: [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 [17:25:28] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:33:13] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Update VE core submodule to master (eeaf1e2) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289245 [17:37:40] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Update VE core submodule to master (eeaf1e2) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289245 (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:51:28] James_F: someone pointed VE doesn't work in their Page namespace. that's not their ns0 though, so I guess they'll just get the dialog for ns0 edits like everybody else. [18:25:13] 10VisualEditor: "Editing tabs" dialog shows up multiple times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135534#2302102 (10Elitre) [18:27:44] 10VisualEditor: "Editing tabs" dialog shows up multiple times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135534#2302126 (10Elitre) Thanks @QuimGil for reporting. Adding @Whatamidoing-WMF as it also affects en.wp. [18:28:13] 10VisualEditor: "Editing tabs" dialog shows up multiple times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135534#2302140 (10Elitre) [18:34:24] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog: Allow switching between editors with changes on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128422#2302284 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:34:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Page-Banner: Wrong style of Table of Contents displays when saving a page at Wikivoyage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126361#2302288 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:34:30] 10VisualEditor, 10QuickSurveys, 10Reading-Web-Backlog: VisualEditor 1.25: QuickSurveys breaks (is incompatible) with VisualEditor on mediawiki-1.25.3 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125534#2302290 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:34:33] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2302287 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:35:05] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ZeroBanner, 10Reading-Web-Backlog: ZeroBanner referencing a VE-MW renamed class - viewPageTarget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111843#2302308 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:35:34] 10VisualEditor, 10Parsoid, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Page-Banner: Parsoid has no special handling for the properties set by WikidataPageBanner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107941#2302324 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:36:46] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 07Technical-Debt: VisualEditorOverlay should be written as an OO.ui.ProcessDialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88559#2302364 (10MBinder_WMF) [18:58:36] 10Cite, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 03Reading-Web-Sprint-72-Ninety-nine-problems-but-Nirzar-aint-one, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Create Special:Citations fallback for non-JavaScript/Resourceloader unsupported users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125897#2302587 (10Jdlrobson... [18:58:43] 10Cite, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Web-Backlog, 03Reading-Web-Sprint-72-Ninety-nine-problems-but-Nirzar-aint-one, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Create Special:Citations fallback for non-JavaScript/Resourceloader unsupported users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125897#2302590 (10Jdlrobson) [19:38:15] 10VisualEditor: "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined" and VE not loading - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135387#2302714 (10Ryasmeen) I tried to reproduce this, but the above mentioned steps are not producing the bug. But I have found another set of steps to reproduce the same error: 1... [21:16:33] (03PS23) 10Esanders: [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) [21:23:47] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders) [21:54:58] (03PS4) 10Esanders: [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 [21:59:09] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [PULLTHROUGH] Stylelint, disable ID selectors [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289193 (owner: 10Esanders) [21:59:33] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10Reading-Community-Engagement: MediaWiki's feedback tool interface is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100011#2303234 (10Capt_Swing) a:05Capt_Swing>03None [22:47:43] if you get reports from people for who VE isn't loading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mvolz#Userscript_throwing_errors [23:16:19] 10WikiEditor, 05MW-1.28-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Signature button in Hungarian should produce "– ~~~~" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26191#2303493 (10Tgr)