[00:04:15] 10VisualEditor, 10Flow: Allow people to add customized buttons to VE toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136152#2325070 (10Trizek-WMF) [00:04:37] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] "Comment nitpicks but otherwise good to merge" (032 comments) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135071) (owner: 10Jforrester) [00:22:43] 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Flow: Allow people to add customized buttons to VE toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136152#2325108 (10Trizek-WMF) [01:33:11] 10WikiEditor: Add editor right to map_bmswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136156#2325187 (10Mbrt) [01:34:05] 10WikiEditor: Add editor right to map_bmswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136156#2325212 (10Mbrt) p:05Triage>03High if my request may wrong, please fix and thanks [05:12:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Templates, 10OOjs-UI, 07Accessibility: In template insert dialog, tab focus goes through a bunch of invisible buttons before reaching the "Insert" action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129791#2116441 (10DLynch) When my https://gerri... [05:18:49] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Beta-Cluster-reproducible, 07Regression: Interface messages on Save Dialog are not getting parsed, showing up as plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136109#2323555 (10Nikerabbit) Is it confirmed that this is not caused be presence (or lack of presence... [05:37:41] 10VisualEditor, 06WMF-Design: Visual Editor welcome modal panel doesn't let enough place for displaying all the text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136165#2325368 (10Psychoslave) [06:30:58] 10VisualEditor, 06WMF-Design: Visual Editor welcome modal panel doesn't let enough place for displaying all the text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136165#2325368 (10Elitre) Let me guess: Firefox? [06:34:20] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Beta-Cluster-reproducible, 07Regression: Interface messages on Save Dialog are not getting parsed, showing up as plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136109#2325453 (10Nikerabbit) {T136124} might or might not be related. [06:40:58] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ContentTranslation, 07Tracking: ContentTranslation issues with references (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115045#2325464 (10Amire80) [07:19:28] 10WikiEditor, 06Multimedia, 07Design: "Insert media" dialog offers confusing insert/upload alternative buttons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135917#2315270 (10Schnark) Perhaps put the button below the field for the file name? Something like this: Enter name of existing file: [_______________________]... [07:34:06] 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Flow: Allow people to add customized buttons to VE toolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136152#2325070 (10Schnark) Well, "no possibility" is not true. But it's not as easy as with WikiEditor or the old toolbar: ```lang=javascript function makeM... [07:49:06] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Editing tabs" dialog (SET first-time information) is too small for translated button labels to fit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130021#2325614 (10Elitre) T136165 has another screenshot. [08:41:24] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons, 06Editing-Analysis: Find out why the visual editor is so used at the Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115724#2325652 (10Elitre) Mobile editing doesn't seem to be playing a role either. Out of 500 VEdits I just checked, only 31 were made through m... [08:56:28] 10VisualEditor, 06WMF-Design: Visual Editor welcome modal panel doesn't let enough place for displaying all the text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136165#2325658 (10Psychoslave) Yes, that's it. [09:18:58] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016): Q4 personal goal: start building a volunteer, cross-wiki taskforce to help with the community side of VE work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130533#2325699 (10Elitre) Yes, thanks, something along those lines will work. This is all raw thinking yet. I'... [09:22:26] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016): Q4 personal goal: start building a volunteer, cross-wiki taskforce to help with the community side of VE work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130533#2325716 (10Elitre) [09:24:08] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016): Q4 personal goal: start building a volunteer, cross-wiki taskforce to help with the community side of VE work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130533#2138685 (10Elitre) [10:06:31] 10VisualEditor, 06WMF-Design: Visual Editor welcome modal panel doesn't let enough place for displaying all the text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136165#2325777 (10matmarex) [10:06:33] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Editing tabs" dialog (SET first-time information) is too small for translated button labels to fit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130021#2325779 (10matmarex) [10:09:30] 10TemplateData, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: Move TemplateData to its own JSON-content namespace and associate with Template-namespace, or to its own TemplateData content model and revision stream. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56140#2325783 (10Danny_B) [10:12:35] umpf, missed Matma again. [10:55:56] (03PS1) 10Esanders: Genericise target initialisation across namespaces [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290653 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58289) [10:56:30] (03Abandoned) 10Esanders: Support category pages by default and show category lists [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/286208 (owner: 10Esanders) [11:18:42] (03PS2) 10Divec: WIP: Calculate model ranges on demand, not RangeState creation [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290425 [11:19:15] (03PS2) 10Divec: [WIP] Count "invisible" nodes with no DOM rendering [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290007 (owner: 10Esanders) [11:21:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Count "invisible" nodes with no DOM rendering [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290007 (owner: 10Esanders) [11:24:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: Calculate model ranges on demand, not RangeState creation [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290425 (owner: 10Divec) [11:25:58] 10WikiEditor: Editing screen shouldn't re-shape or move after it is displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125843#2326028 (10TheDJ) 05Open>03Resolved [11:26:14] (03PS3) 10TheDJ: Avoid flash of content when hiding editHelp and the pipe separator [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290067 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120408) [11:46:06] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 07Need-volunteer: Citoid automated feature is not correctly configured on the Chinese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134484#2326071 (10Mvolz) Yes, it appears the mediawiki message was installed without putting citoid maps in any of the tempaltes. So I've gone throu... [11:48:52] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#2326073 (10Mvolz) [11:50:46] (03PS2) 10Esanders: Genericise target initialisation across namespaces [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290653 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58289) [12:57:47] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor: Add ability to request base types in citoid, and offer use of both in extension for backwards compatibility until all templateData has been updated. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114515#2326183 (10Mvolz) [13:25:53] mooeypoo: editing template data on he wiki... so weird! also I guess I should finally ask for permissions. I guess I shouldn't make krenair do this. That would be mean. [13:27:00] it would be nice if wikitext was ltr when your language preferences were in a ltr language :D [13:27:16] I guess that would probably be impossible though [13:27:33] because raw wikitext is literal. or whatevs. [13:28:26] or at least would cause mistakes probably. [14:11:31] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki: "Editing tabs" dialog (SET first-time information) is too small for translated button labels to fit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130021#2326353 (10Psychoslave) Why does it need to be fixed size boxes? Removing the overflow:hidden should be enough, should't it? [14:35:44] 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Flow: Allow people to add customized buttons to VE toolbar by an easy way - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136152#2326438 (10Trizek-WMF) [14:36:26] 10VisualEditor, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Flow: Allow people to add customized buttons to VE toolbar by an easy way - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136152#2325070 (10Trizek-WMF) I can't do anything else than renaming the task. [14:41:37] (03PS25) 10Esanders: [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) [14:45:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders) [15:05:46] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Hooks: Replace AddNewAccount, AuthPluginAutoCreate with LocalUserCreated [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135071) [15:05:50] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Hooks: Replace AddNewAccount, AuthPluginAutoCreate with LocalUserCreated (032 comments) [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/289654 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135071) (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:23:46] 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 07User-notice: Enable VisualEditor by default for all users of all "phase 6" Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93387#2326624 (10Elitre) [15:23:51] 10VisualEditor, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016): Q4 personal goal: Facilitate deployment of VisualEditor at Phase 6 wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96500#2326626 (10Elitre) [15:37:07] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 032] Avoid flash of content when hiding editHelp and the pipe separator [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290067 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120408) (owner: 10TheDJ) [15:37:22] 10WikiEditor: Editing screen shouldn't re-shape or move after it is displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125843#2326711 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [15:37:24] 10WikiEditor: WikiEditor's CSS hiding of editHelp and the pipe separator throws a flash of unstyled content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120408#2326710 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [15:39:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Avoid flash of content when hiding editHelp and the pipe separator [extensions/WikiEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290067 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120408) (owner: 10TheDJ) [15:50:08] does "switching to the other editor" have a keyboard shortcut? [15:50:27] Elitre: No. [15:50:53] I expected meta-V / meta-E to do that while editing, though. [15:51:42] We could do that. [15:51:56] I'll file a task to remind you about it then. [15:52:07] Thank you. :-) [15:54:24] (03PS10) 10DLynch: Insert undo breakpoints at word breaks [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287972 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834) [15:56:11] 10VisualEditor: Assign a keyboard shortcut to "switch to the other editor" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136210#2326785 (10Elitre) [15:59:53] don't mention it. [16:08:10] (03CR) 10Divec: [C: 04-1] "Looking good. I think the current logic is surer to work than would testing how far the selection moves. With certain IME/browser combinat" (033 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287972 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834) (owner: 10DLynch) [16:16:30] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ZeroBanner, 06Reading-Web-Backlog: ZeroBanner referencing a VE-MW renamed class - viewPageTarget - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111843#2326997 (10Jhernandez) p:05High>03Lowest Needs confirmation [16:21:44] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 06Editing-Department, 10MobileFrontend, 07Technical-Debt: VisualEditorOverlay should be written as an OO.ui.ProcessDialog - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88559#2327046 (10Jhernandez) [16:39:04] (03CR) 10Divec: Insert undo breakpoints at word breaks (031 comment) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287972 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834) (owner: 10DLynch) [16:41:19] Krenair: I'm getting the unparsed message bug on mediawiki.org now in VE [16:43:28] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 07Beta-Cluster-reproducible, 07Regression: Interface messages on Save Dialog are not getting parsed, showing up as plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136109#2323555 (10Krinkle) Now happening in production on mediawiki.org as well. {F4053863} And whil... [16:57:47] (03CR) 10DLynch: "Having done some research into that, we don't fire the handleObservedChanges immediately on those selection changes as we only do that whe" (033 comments) [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287972 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834) (owner: 10DLynch) [16:58:07] (03PS11) 10DLynch: Insert undo breakpoints at word breaks [VisualEditor/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287972 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127834) [19:35:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Math, 07Beta-Cluster-reproducible: Math nodes are not getting rendered for the first time in a session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132620#2327621 (10Ryasmeen) [19:35:52] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Math: Math nodes are not getting rendered for the first time in a session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132620#2204608 (10Ryasmeen) [19:39:12] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Authentication-and-authorization: VisualEditor tries to access user language in an MW_NO_SESSION context - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136233#2327657 (10Tgr) [19:39:23] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Authentication-and-authorization: VisualEditor tries to access user language in an MW_NO_SESSION context - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136233#2327670 (10Tgr) [19:39:34] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Math: Math nodes are not getting rendered for the first time in a session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132620#2327684 (10Ryasmeen) This is not anymore Beta-cluster specific issue, I could reproduce it on mw.org today. Will be great if someone could look int... [19:40:23] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Authentication-and-authorization: VisualEditor tries to access user language in an MW_NO_SESSION context - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136233#2327657 (10Tgr) [19:40:46] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-Authentication-and-authorization: VisualEditor tries to access user language in an MW_NO_SESSION context - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136233#2327657 (10Tgr) [19:45:12] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Math: Math nodes are not getting rendered for the first time in a VisualEditor session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132620#2327767 (10Physikerwelt) [20:01:42] (03PS26) 10Esanders: [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) [20:05:17] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10RESTBase, 06Services, and 2 others: Investigate source of null / missing If-Match headers in VE html2wt requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135171#2327888 (10GWicke) @Krenair, did you find anything else while looking into the VE extension? [20:06:16] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP/POC/POS] Wikitext surface [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229567 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104479) (owner: 10Esanders) [20:33:01] James_F|Away, coming? [20:59:04] (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290777 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:21:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10WikiEditor, 06Editing-Department, and 6 others: To help desktop users ensure pages look OK for mobile, let them "preview" how it will look as they edit on desktop, regardless of editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119252#2328221 (10Jdlrobson) p:05Triage... [21:32:22] 10VisualEditor, 06Editing-Department, 10MobileFrontend, 07Mobile, and 2 others: Enable editing for mobile users without JavaScript and kill Special:MobileEditor code in MobileFrontend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125174#2328273 (10Jdlrobson) [21:35:43] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Math: Math nodes are not getting rendered for the first time in a VisualEditor session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132620#2328294 (10Physikerwelt) By the way. I can not reproduce the problem. [21:50:32] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend: Allow switching between editors with changes on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128422#2328367 (10Jdlrobson) [21:50:50] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, 10MobileFrontend: Allow switching between editors with changes on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128422#2074142 (10jhobs) A description would be helpful, thanks! [21:52:58] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MobileFrontend: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2328373 (10Jdlrobson) [21:54:26] 10Cite, 10MediaWiki-API: What is impact of storing references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126802#2023745 (10Jdlrobson) [21:54:49] 10VisualEditor, 10QuickSurveys, 06Reading-Web-Backlog: VisualEditor 1.25: QuickSurveys breaks (is incompatible) with VisualEditor on mediawiki-1.25.3 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125534#2328380 (10jhobs) Is this bug still present? [22:25:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10Math: Math nodes are not getting rendered for the first time in a login session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132620#2328551 (10Ryasmeen) [23:47:02] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Update mediawiki_api gem to 1.7.1 [extensions/VisualEditor] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/290854 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135884)